Spacial Rifts

CMDR Vic H Weaving

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Hey everyone,

I was hoping to get a conversation started up again around spacial rift anomalies in the game. Hopefully if any known data regarding these can be compiled in one place, we could get a better idea of what we're dealing with. Below are all examples of spacial rifts/anomalies that I'm aware of.

  • HR 6890 A 1 - Transmitter VJS-81
  • Col 285 Sector BG-O d6-93 1D - Comm Delta Array 69
  • Leucos Crashed Ship
  • CODEX:
    • The Guardians - Guardian/Human Contact (Jasmina Halsey - teleported? Teleported in space and time, back to the Guardian era, perhaps?)
    • Raxxla: The Omphalos Rift is described as a spacial rift/anomaly.
  • Thargoids: Their hyperspace openings appear as temporary rifts, or wormholes cut in the fabric of space.
Any details on anything even somewhat related would be great. Thanks.

Original Thread: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/major-clue-s-on-raxxla-and-how-to-locate-it.579282/
 

CMDR Vic H Weaving

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Misc Notes:
  • I'm wondering if the Omphalos rift is tied to a specific 0.1G planet, and all the rifts that are alluded to in these logs are connecting to a central location. This would explain the presence of a 0.1G gravitational anomaly appearing temporarily at Comm Delta Array 69, as well as both people in the HR6890 and Leucos logs apparently appearing near a planet. I'm not sure this is definitely the case, especially seeing we have the location of a crashed ship (Leucos), and I didn't see any clues pointing to Raxxla when I was there.
  • Since Halsey has a connection to the Thargoids Guardians, and could have been teleported (describing her experience as 'real', much like Mr. HR 6890), I'm wondering whether bringing Guardian artefacts to one of these sites might... do something?
  • Unclassified Relics were apparently requested by Ram Tah / Palin, but nothing specific came of them to my knowledge. Maybe these can be used? Is this an open lead
  • The Leucos system is named after a fish. Are there any other fish-related astronomical entities? Constellations/nebulae?
    • Going to check the Pisces constellation.
      • Alpha Piscium / HIP 9487 / Alrisha
        • Alrisha ABCD 1 A - first landable world in system. Exactly 0.1G gravity.
      • Beta Piscium / HIP 113889 / Fum Al Samakah
        • Binary Pair. Nothing of interest.
      • Delta Piscium / HIP 3786
      • Epsilon Piscium / HIP 4906 / 71 Epsilon Piscium
      • Zeta Piscium / HIP 5743 / 86 Zeta Piscium
      • Eta Piscium / HIP 7097 / Al'Farg
      • Omicron Piscium / HIP 8198 / Torcularis Septentrionalis
      • Omega Piscium / HIP 118268 / 28 Omega Piscium
      • Gamma Piscium / HIP 114971 / 6 Gamma Piscium
      • Van Maanen's Star (Permit Locked, Acquirable)
  • I tried trilaterating the (3) sites noted above, which pointed directly to Alrai Sector LH-V B2-4. Unfortunately, this system only has a star, and none of the signals present seem unique.
 
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Ozric

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Ozric
The crashed ship on Leucos doesn't mention Gravitational Anomalies at all, the pilot says they've been caught in the gravitational pull of the planet. They also mention Corrosive Cargo, so it's likely they were carrying something Thargoid and it damaged their systems.

CMDR Vic H Weaving said:
  • Since Halsey has a connection to the Thargoids, and could have been teleported (describing her experience as 'real', much like Mr. HR 6890), I'm wondering whether bringing Guardian artefacts to one of these sites might... do something?
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What connection does Halsey have to the Thargoids?

Also she said her experience was just a dream when Frontier rebooted the narrative in 3307 https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/uid/601163e4990d0a15f312437d
 

Rochester

Rochester
It’s possible some of these might not be all related.

Some, I suspect may be historical, they may have formed part of some initial foreshadowing of the Thargoid narrative, prior the introduction of actual Thargoid content?

The others I suspect, might allude to some form wider environmental storytelling concept involving the caretakers.

There are parallels in this concept with Celtic folklore, concerning characters who disappear or are abducted by deities of the liminal ‘Otherworld’. A place, that isn’t a place.

If the above were true then FD acoukd be alluding to this concept of an ‘other place’ narratively, but also spatially, advocating these occurrences originate in a particular area of the bubble!

It’s possible these might also relate to some redundant narrative?

For instance its known that a significant section of the Raxxla narrative was edited/removed, and likewise part of the lead-up to the Guardian narrative very likely was discarded also, when Cmdrs found them due to a mistake in the release video.

There’s the possibility then that such content doesn’t lead anyplace?

For example I recently mapped all the ‘removed’ Dark Wheel missions, listed in the quest thread. In doing so it’s evident there is some concentration of these missions in certain areas of space.

In one instance, several of these missions actually spawned around the system where the Starship One incident occurred!

Is that a coincidence or an indication ‘something’ was there, suppose to have occurred there or is/was going to occur there?!?
 
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mtfatboy3006

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CMDR Vic H Weaving said:
Misc Notes:
  • I'm wondering if the Omphalos rift is tied to a specific 0.1G planet, and all the rifts that are alluded to in these logs are connecting to a central location. This would explain the presence of a 0.1G gravitational anomaly appearing temporarily at Comm Delta Array 69, as well as both people in the HR6890 and Leucos logs apparently appearing near a planet. I'm not sure this is definitely the case, especially seeing we have the location of a crashed ship (Leucos), and I didn't see any clues pointing to Raxxla when I was there.
  • Since Halsey has a connection to the Thargoids, and could have been teleported (describing her experience as 'real', much like Mr. HR 6890), I'm wondering whether bringing Guardian artefacts to one of these sites might... do something?
  • Unclassified Relics were apparently requested by Ram Tah / Palin, but nothing specific came of them to my knowledge. Maybe these can be used? Is this an open lead
  • The Leucos system is named after a fish. Are there any other fish-related astronomical entities? Constellations/nebulae?
    • Going to check the Pisces constellation.
      • Alpha Piscium / HIP 9487 / Alrisha
        • Alrisha ABCD 1 A - first landable world in system. Exactly 0.1G gravity.
      • Beta Piscium / HIP 113889 / Fum Al Samakah
      • Delta Piscium / HIP 3786
      • Epsilon Piscium / HIP 4906 / 71 Epsilon Piscium
      • Zeta Piscium / HIP 5743 / 86 Zeta Piscium
      • Eta Piscium / HIP 7097 / Al'Farg
      • Omicron Piscium / HIP 8198 / Torcularis Septentrionalis
      • Omega Piscium / HIP 118268 / 28 Omega Piscium
      • Gamma Piscium / HIP 114971 / 6 Gamma Piscium
      • Van Maanen's Star (Permit Locked, Acquirable)
  • I tried trilaterating the (3) sites noted above, which pointed directly to Alrai Sector LH-V B2-4. Unfortunately, this system only has a star, and none of the signals present seem unique.
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I have proposed elsewhere (I am not claiming to be the first to connect most, or even any of these) that the Dark Wheel toast alludes to the stars Schedar, Rigel, Diphda, Spica, Lyra, and Sol. I noted that five of these were situated to suggest a hexagon on a 2D equatorial starmap, and @Ian Doncaster noted here how Sol could be plotted as the sixth star, and he plotted the centroid, which appears to me to be at approximately RA 44 min, Dec +12 deg. I had given up the quest, but did idly wonder what was in that region of space, and did some out of game research. I only mention this because, and I don't suggest this means anything, when I looked up this region of space, I noted that 58 Piscium is there at RA 48 min, Dec +12 deg. I went there in game despite having sworn off the hunt for Raxxla, and didn't find anything. I don't think there is anything there. But your question made me think of it. And the moon 58 Piscium 4a does, according to EDSM, have 0.1G.
 
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CMDR Vic H Weaving

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Ozric said:
The crashed ship on Leucos doesn't mention Gravitational Anomalies at all, the pilot says they've been caught in the gravitational pull of the planet. They also mention Corrosive Cargo, so it's likely they were carrying something Thargoid and it damaged their systems.



What connection does Halsey have to the Thargoids?

Also she said her experience was just a dream when Frontier rebooted the narrative in 3307 https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/uid/601163e4990d0a15f312437d
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My mistake on Halsey, I meant to say Guardians, let me fix that. On the 3307 article... I don't buy it, that's a Federal cover up.

As for the Leucos anomaly, from the Canonn link:
Mayday. I repeat Mayday.
My systems are failing and I’ve been caught in the gravitational pull of… oh god where am I?
Leucos A 5 a, Approximate lat: -36 long:-45
Warning hazardous cargo on board!
Emergency landing protocols are in place.
Mayday. I repeat Mayday.
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The pilot says "Oh god, where am I?"

Why would the pilot not know where he is? My guess is that he was moved somehow.
 

thistle

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CMDR Vic H Weaving said:
My mistake on Halsey, I meant to say Guardians, let me fix that. On the 3307 article... I don't buy it, that's a Federal cover up.

As for the Leucos anomaly, from the Canonn link:

The pilot says "Oh god, where am I?"

Why would the pilot not know where he is? My guess is that he was moved somehow.
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If I break down on the M5 near junction 10 and phone the AA recovery, I might have to check so I can tell them I'm on the M5 near junction 10.
 

Ozric

Volunteer Moderator
Ozric
CMDR Vic H Weaving said:
As for the Leucos anomaly, from the Canonn link:

The pilot says "Oh god, where am I?"

Why would the pilot not know where he is? My guess is that he was moved somehow.
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That's a big leap in my opinion.

As Thistle suggested I think it's far more likely he just needs to check what the planet is that he's about to faceplant into. Because if you're hauling hazardous/corrosive cargo and suddenly you lose major systems, believe me from experience, the panic sets in :)
 

CMDR Vic H Weaving

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Ozric said:
That's a big leap in my opinion.

As Thistle suggested I think it's far more likely he just needs to check what the planet is that he's about to faceplant into. Because if you're hauling hazardous/corrosive cargo and suddenly you lose major systems, believe me from experience, the panic sets in :)
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You're almost certainly right... but...

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Raxxla!
 

mtfatboy3006

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CMDR Vic H Weaving said:
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Raxxla!
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On that note, the name Lyta Crane from the Dark Wheel codex entry caught in my head when I looked the text back over after responding above. I wondered suddenly if "Leda Crane" could serve as something of a kenning for "Swan" (Cygnus). Nothing in Cygnus caught my eye as remarkable or potentially connected to the Dark Wheel or spacial rifts (except Cygni X-3, but it's been explored, and I'm not flying 37,000 light years to explore it again on such a weak whim--nor for any other reason I can think of). But the constellation Grus (the Crane) does have Lambda-, Upsilon-, Tau-, and Alpha- designated stars (LYTA), and the constellation Grus used to be considered part of the constellation Piscis Austrenis (The Southern Fish). Those stars are in, or on the edge of, the bubble and are thoroughly explored, though. Two are inhabited (Tau-1 Gruis and Alnair/Alpha Gruis), and one of the others (Upsilon IIRC) is currently being colonized. Still, it's another tie in the sky to fish and the Dark Wheel. I was almost tempted to travel the four systems in sequence and see if I could pick up any signals with my tinfoil hat antenna. I did not do so.
 

Rochester

Rochester
Dug this out, suspected we’d mapped it at some point.

Post in thread 'The Quest To Find Raxxla'
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/the-quest-to-find-raxxla.168253/post-10090942

What I forgot about this was that it brought my attention to HR 5991, which itself holds a similar weird mystery involving a mysterious signal.

phonto.jpeg


If there’s anything to these, except some common environmental narrative, namely in regards to Thargoids, it’s plausible one system in this triangulation might be unrelated, if so might HR 5991 be the better candidate?

Of course collectively they all might be relative, and I’m more inclined towards that assumption.

If HR 5991is the true aspect, then we ought to remove another, to shift the centroid; based upon the context the best candidate for removal might be Leucos?

phonto.jpeg


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Comparing this area in relation to those investigated in respect to Raxxla, this doesn’t t seem obviously relative, and is actually some distance from those aspects previously identified as potentially linked to the ongoing Raxxla hunt.

There is however, an odd alignment with the Thargoid Mealstroms, in that it appears opposite to them, but I feel that’s a stretch too far.

The maelstroms actually have a common focal point, which is in a very interesting area of space, just shy of systems denoting the ‘fates’, this is a prime candidate location within the Raxxla quest for some!

It’s plausible these mysteries then might collectively point to some common fulcrum, but they also may not actually point anywhere, given their general wide dispersal; the simplest assumption maybe they work loosely, to establish a common environmental theme, namely as foreshadowing the arrival of the Thargoids narrative, prior to what we’ve since experienced.

phonto.jpeg
 
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