DLC 19 Speculation

They actual used dire wolf DNA, at least thats was Foresst Galante said, but also they plan on making a artificial womb to create more pure dire wolves. With that said it will probably be a LONG TIME, before we get those, but who knows.
They didn't use dire wolf DNA, they altered the genes of those in grey wolves. These are hybrids at best and even then 99.9% grey wolf. I wish Colossal would spend their money on something more worthwhile than these vanity projects to garner attention.
 
They didn't use dire wolf DNA, they altered the genes of those in grey wolves. These are hybrids at best and even then 99.9% grey wolf. I wish Colossal would spend their money on something more worthwhile than these vanity projects to garner attention.
We have animals on the verge of Extinction and they're focusing on animals that are extinct. Only plausible thing I could see being needed is the Thylacine and Mammoth as they are heavy key species for their environment. Especially with the Mammoth helping the Arctic biome that's suffering due to warming having a less rapid defreezing
 
They didn't use dire wolf DNA, they altered the genes of those in grey wolves. These are hybrids at best and even then 99.9% grey wolf. I wish Colossal would spend their money on something more worthwhile than these vanity projects to garner attention.
It's a company that needs investors, it's the sort of thing they're going to do.

They've been playing with Elephant genomes for 10 years, and all they have to show is woolly mice, so it makes sense they'd go for easy, showy milestones that don't actually mean much.

We have animals on the verge of Extinction and they're focusing on animals that are extinct. Only plausible thing I could see being needed is the Thylacine and Mammoth as they are heavy key species for their environment. Especially with the Mammoth helping the Arctic biome that's suffering due to warming having a less rapid defreezing
The entire concept is kind of flawed from a conservation standpoint, seeing they'll never be the things they were, just substitutes.

I guarantee the motive isn't conservation, it's pets for the rich and theme park attractions, same as the Chickenosaurus.
 
I’ve always been curious about de-extinction. Feel free to correct me on things I say here.
Appropriate names so far but I am expecting house Stark names like Greywind, Sansa, Tony, Ghost, Brann etc.
Someone once suggested to me: ecosystems balance out every guesstimated 300 years once a species has been removed. As in a new predator will move in or new herbivores will take over.
I believe we ought to bring back species that have gone extinct because of humans over the last 300-500 years. Steller sea cow, dodo, rhinos, Tasmanian tigers etc.
 
I’ve always been curious about de-extinction. Feel free to correct me on things I say here.
Appropriate names so far but I am expecting house Stark names like Greywind, Sansa, Tony, Ghost, Brann etc.
Someone once suggested to me: ecosystems balance out every guesstimated 300 years once a species has been removed. As in a new predator will move in or new herbivores will take over.
I believe we ought to bring back species that have gone extinct because of humans over the last 300-500 years. Steller sea cow, dodo, rhinos, Tasmanian tigers etc.
I agree that the only organisms we should worry about bringing back are those that humans have killed with in written history because for the most part their roles are left unfilled and weakened. Hot take but the woolly mammoth being brought back will not help conservation at all since while yes humans are partially responsible for its extinction it has been gone for thousands of years and earth is climatically very different now then it was during the glacial periods when mammoths were most prominent so the biomes it used to inhabit no longer exist or have been morphed irrespective of humans.

Also we will never be able to fully revive an animal particularly mammals because even with perfect genetic materials so much of what determines how an animal forms is up to their development in the womb the mitochondria of the mother and the external environment that anything we produce will only be close approximations
 
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An avian pack would be amazing. There would be plenty of options without having to add any flying animations. Storks, ducks, geese, pheasants, more cranes,...

EDIT: and pelicans of course! How could I forget about them??
Yeah. We need at the very least:

  • A duck
  • A stork
  • A pheasant
  • A spoonbill
  • An ibis
  • A pelican
  • A heron

And then some big mames: secretary, grey crowned crane, wild turkey... And some that have been brought up a lot recently like roadrunner and burrowing owl.

Then of course we could get more key clones like the Rockhopper or gentoo penguin or the black swan.

So many options without the need of an aviary system or flight mechanics. Is almost frustrating all that could have been that we will miss in the bird department🥲
 
I know I saw a short about it, I am unbelievable excited, I can already picture animals like the Dodo, Tasmanian Tiger, and Ground Sloth coming back, aw well as animals with low populations getting a boast like Red Wolf, Barbirusa, and Vaquita
Haven't commented on here yet about the teased DLC (and won't until the full roster is announced), but I will on Colossal's new "experiment" because there's a lot of misinformation, most promoted by the company themselves, about it...

Real Dire Wolves were found to be more closely related to modern-day jackals than Grey Wolves, and as has been stated in most of the press releases, the created wolves are genetically modified Grey Wolves. A few sections of their DNA, all still DNA that exists within the modern day Grey Wolf, were altered in areas that had overlap with the still-extinct Dire Wolf. Going off what has been made public, there is no new DNA (Dire Wolf or anything else for that matter) that has been added to Colossal's wolves. They are simply Grey Wolves that have had a few snippets of their genetic code "switched" to express some phenotype traits that are more associated with what we know of Dire Wolves.

I'll try to avoid much personal opinion on the matter, as there is a lot to unpack with the situation, but putting it simply, Colossal is marketing their potential breakthroughs in genetic editing; and it is simply that, marketing. I'm not trying to discredit all the discoveries Colossal made in creating their wolves, but it's also insincere of them to promote these animals as being true dire wolves and "the first to exist in over 10,000 years".

One positive to be made of all this though, is that in some statements Colossal claims they successfully cloned four Red Wolves in the leadup to their "Dire Wolf" experiment, all with DNA from deceased individuals that were recently killed in the American Southeast. If true, this could truly change conservation efforts for the highly endangered species and protect genetic diversity within their already small gene pool.
 
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Agree with y’all above
As mentioned in Jurassic park/world movies and games that they aren’t a 100% genetically accurate animal.
As elephant calves and mothers need guidance from elder elephants, mammoths social structure may not do so well if they don’t learn what to do without an elder as we believe mammoths had very similar structure to modern elephants today.
Put the steller sea cows in a protected area of the Cook inlet of Alaska, put the dodos in protected area of Madagascar, Tasmanian tigers in Tasmania, let their numbers grow, one stable enough and non dependent on humans we let them loose on their original home range.
Heck let’s put all the ice age animals on a northern hemisphere island and call it Ice Age Park.
 
Haven't commented on here yet about the teased DLC (and won't until the full roster is announced), but I will on the Colossal's new "experiment" because there's a lot of misinformation, most promoted by the company themselves, about it...

Real Dire Wolves were found to be more closely related to modern-day jackals than Grey Wolves, and as has been stated in most of the press releases, the created wolves are genetically modified Grey Wolves. A few sections of their DNA, all still DNA that exists within the modern day Grey Wolf, were altered in areas that had overlap with the still-extinct Dire Wolf. Going off what has been made public, there is no new DNA (Dire Wolf or anything else for that matter) that has been added to Colossal's wolves. They are simply Grey Wolves that have had a few snippets of their genetic code "switched" to express some phenotype traits that are more associated with what we know of Dire Wolves.

I'll try to avoid much personal opinion on the matter, as there is a lot to unpack with the situation, but putting it simply, Colossal is marketing their potential breakthroughs in genetic editing; and it is simply that, marketing. I'm not trying to discredit all the discoveries Colossal made in creating their wolves, but it's also insincere of them to promote these animals as being true dire wolves and "the first to exist in over 10,000 years".

One positive to be made of all this though, is that in some statements Colossal claims they successfully cloned four Red Wolves in the leadup to their "Dire Wolf" experiment, all with DNA from deceased individuals that were recently killed in the American Southeast. If true, this could truly change conservation efforts for the highly endangered species and protect genetic diversity within their already small gene pool.
Ok, this will probably be very controversial but the more I hear about it, the more I can't help but think about when a certain German government in the 20th century pretended they had revived the auroch, and I won't get into details about the reasons why they did that as hopefully Colossal doesn't share the same ideology and motivation and far from me to imply otherwise without knowing better... but in both cases, it's only a recreation of the extinct animal in names and to a very loose extent aesthetics (as in, mostly what the animal is expected to look like by people with just a passing knowledge of them), but whether you look at the genome, ecological "role" and most likely behaviour it's just two different things.
Sorry, I'm rambling, it's a bit late here and I should already be in my bed...
 
Ok, this will probably be very controversial but the more I hear about it, the more I can't help but think about when a certain German government in the 20th century pretended they had revived the auroch, and I won't get into details about the reasons why they did that as hopefully Colossal doesn't share the same ideology and motivation and far from me to imply otherwise without knowing better... but in both cases, it's only a recreation of the extinct animal in names and to a very loose extent aesthetics (as in, mostly what the animal is expected to look like by people with just a passing knowledge of them), but whether you look at the genome, ecological "role" and most likely behaviour it's just two different things.
Sorry, I'm rambling, it's a bit late here and I should already be in my bed...
I'm definitely hesitant to the idea that Colossal shares ideology with the 1930's German government, and think the company's motives are more so tied to income. Seems like they were needing something to excite their investors and decided that a mock-Game of Thrones character would be the best way to achieve this.

I have a lot of mixed feelings on Colossal and some of their decisions. But I do think that with each of their potential breakthroughs, there is also the chance that the discovery can be used to help save numerous still-living, threatened species. So I guess in some sense, we have to take the good with the bad..
 
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Ok, this will probably be very controversial but the more I hear about it, the more I can't help but think about when a certain German government in the 20th century pretended they had revived the auroch, and I won't get into details about the reasons why they did that as hopefully Colossal doesn't share the same ideology and motivation and far from me to imply otherwise without knowing better... but in both cases, it's only a recreation of the extinct animal in names and to a very loose extent aesthetics (as in, mostly what the animal is expected to look like by people with just a passing knowledge of them), but whether you look at the genome, ecological "role" and most likely behaviour it's just two different things.
Sorry, I'm rambling, it's a bit late here and I should
In defence of the Auroch (not that one guy through, he and his ideas can rot in hell) out of all the extinct mammals out there, they are the most likely to be fully bring back considering that domestic cows are just domesticated aurochs, that means that a cow that looks like auroch, is probably an auroch genetically speaking. Thats the reason why i believe the auroch is the only extinct mammals that can be bring back.

Edit: i suggest to us to move the whole colossal thing to sidechat, i don't believe most people interested in the dlc want to read about colossal and deextinction
 
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