And why they are called Early Access.
New ship: Gutamaya Corsair
- Thread starter Rubbernuke
- Start date
I have done that, not for AX, but for PVE.
But 6 Modshards do not work well without masses of heatsinks in a well shielded build, so I changed 2 of them for 2 C3 TV Beams. The aim is to fire 2 salvos without overheating and without using a heatsink. I have to try, how to reach this. I think I will try class 6 Thrusters and an amoured PP.
4 Modshards need about 15 salvos to destroy a Deadly Pirate Anaconda/Corvette, so it is effective enough.
Current setup:
CMDR Surprize960 - ship details | Elite:Dangerous | INARA
The companion site for Elite:Dangerous with the game database, market data, trade routes, outfitting, engineers, blueprints, crafting, Thargoid war, squadrons, logbooks, galleries, galaxy information and much more...inara.cz
The 8500 m Godshard sits in the lower C2. In this, it works perfect as a „sniper“ because you can aim very precisely with the single dot.
Are Modshards effective in PVE? I was under the impression that Guardian weapons are not as effective on NPCs as "Human" weapons, so I'm trying rail guns on my Corsair (and maybe Pacifier Frags afterwards).
Thanks everyone for your comments on this thread - love the exchange of ideas!
Can you really gib Cyclops with this?
Did you really mean "6x mod PLASMA bulid"?
Or 6x mod SHARD bulid?
Typo, maybe?
8.3 x 17 x 6 = 846 total damage
vs
6.77 x 12 x 5 x 6 = 2437
The former would need 3 shots to equal a full salvo of shards, and you cannot fire quickly since they need to charge up first.
I have never been impresed with Guardian mod plasma, except that they are pretty shiny blue, but would be happy to be wrong
Last edited:
They work, never the best option but they work.
Actually I think the small ones are one of the better small hardpoint options cause Plasma isnt available in smalls normally.
Worked a bit on my Corsair build last night
Obviously, previous reports that performance between Class 7 and Class 6 Thrusters not evident other than if you mount Class 6 you get better jump range.
First impression I like the way it flies but I think FD needs to look at the Thruster anomaly.
Engineering to continue today...
Obviously, previous reports that performance between Class 7 and Class 6 Thrusters not evident other than if you mount Class 6 you get better jump range.
First impression I like the way it flies but I think FD needs to look at the Thruster anomaly.
Engineering to continue today...
The only anomaly is that people don’t understand how Thruster Minimum Mass works.
For grade 5 dirty/drag thrusters…If your ship’s mass remains below 630 tons, then there will be no difference between class 6 and 7 thrusters as far as speed and maneuverability. If your mass is over 630 but less than 954 tons, class 7 thrusters will give better performance. The Corsair’s performance will not change one bit with class 7 thrusters until you manage to stack more than 954 tons.
Every ship in the entire game is like this. The Corsair is just the first ship whose Thrusters are so incredibly overpowered for its mass that we have to work hard just to get to the minimum.
And your point is...
You spoke about a “thruster anomaly”. You mentioned that performance [differences] were “not evident”, and that FDev “needs to look” at this like it’s some kind of bug.
There is no anomaly. This is math.
If you simply don’t care, then so be it. Go file a bug report if you find it helps you.
They are, of course, more of „fun-weapons“ in PVE. But they do a good job in dealing damage to both shields and hull.
The C2 Modshards have a high Armour Piercing Value of 91, which is only surpassed by PA and Rails. Nearly instant hit due to the high projectiles speed - and I like the sound. Pacifiers do not have that „Peng“.
It's not that I don't care
It's that if you have to go to extreme limits to gain a miniscule advantage there is an evident design flaw.
Yes a V-8 has more torque than a V-6, but if there's no performance gain you might as well go with the V-6 and get better gas mileage.
It's not that I don't understand the underlying theory
It's just that the design isn't warranted...
To be fair, seeing how much emphasis the marketing for the Corsair has put on the size 7 thrusters, it almost looks like Frontier had forgotten about Thruster Minimum Mass as well for a moment.
V8 is always a performance gain unless you compare naturally aspirated V8 with a turbocharged V6, and then you lose the better gas mileage.
I've lost myself in the analogy and can't apply that to the Corsair.
I already had grade 6 dirty drag thrusters sitting in my carrier from when I decommissioned my Python collection, so I went with those, but I am going to change, because outfitting and engineering everything else brought my top speed down into the mid 570s, and I want that 20 mps back.
I'm at 473/600 m/s with either 6 or 7
I can't foresee ever needing more than the 6
Unless of course I want to haul a 10,000 pound trailer - to mix analogies...
Or they didn’t. Every new ship so far has had a seemingly purposeful superpower. The P2 is “4 larges on a medium agile combat ship”. The Type-8 is “400 tons in a medium”. The Mandalay is “I jump 80+ and have infinite SCO stamina”. The Cobra V is the living god of small ships. Now we have a ship that can stack mass without going slow, which is no small advantage.
They also put in tradeoffs which also takes thought. The P2 has power issues. The Type-8 has thruster issues. The Mandalay has badly selected and placed hardpoints. The Cobra V…we’re not going to address right now. The Corsair has mediocre thermal properties.
Somebody somewhere has been thinking about tradeoffs at FDev.
For me it was putting heavy duty engineering on military grade alloy that dragged me down the most. I have some other mass-increasing engineering mods, though.
I bought the plane jane. Immediately upgraded to 'A' rated everything, and almost have all the class 5 engineering done (had to stop early yesterday). Weapons are my basic 'beams and frags' layout.
First flight had me thinking 'this thing is more sluggish than my Python I', but we'll see what happens after I'm all done.
It is a very stable platform - When lined up it was noticeably easier to land hits with my 3 Imp Hammers, it just doesn't squirm as well as dedicated combat ships to stay on target.
I had fun, and gained a few new bounties last night, so it isn't useless...
I really doesn't drift. I noticed it when coming in for a landing on my carrier, did a side strafe and unlike many other ships it had a tiny bit of drift and bam, stopped. I am wondering if the size 6 vs 7 effect that at all, I had full engineered 7a at that point.
Nice !
What is the class of the turreted parrot's beam laser eyes?