Perhaps rather than thinking of it as "defense/offense was completely balanced before, and now they are going to unbalance it to favor offense", maybe it could be thought of as "currently defense/offense is too unbalanced in favor of defense, so now they are rebalancing it to incentivize system takeovers."
Elite Dangerous | Trailblazers Update 3 - Wednesday April 30
- Thread starter Phil W
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Hi,
with this "fix" for Powerplay you break it. Since you reward even more the undermining 1 hour before the tick with settlement data. PLEASE limit the amount of settlement data to 20 for each commander, because right now one CMDR has about 300000 Merits he can drop 1 hour before the tick with a 5% increase you make it even worse and than a 35 % decrease for defense the reinforcement system system which takes month to get it to fortified and you can loose it in 1 hour before the tick. WHY investing all this time to build it up. You block storing powerplay goods on Fleet Carrier which can only be used for specific systems. BUT you do not block settlement data which can be stored by 1000 and worth more per data as powerplay goods and can be dropped at many different systems. Do you want to force everyone to do settlements, I avoid all settlement play since it is NOT in VR. Having this EXTREME in balance of settlement data and all the activities in space is just not fair. Limit the settlement data which can be stored per CMDR than at least it can be seen before the tick that defensive action is required to prevent the system from taken away. DP lost the last couple weeks several system with this kind of Control Points bombing in the last hour 150000 Control Points in 1 hour. HOW should anyone defend this? Please lower the possibility to store so many data for each CMDR. Undermining should be a process a fight going back and forth and not a snipershot before the tick. With all the other activities, bounty hunt, donate, trade, power goods, holo hacking wreckage and scanning. I just manage around 10000 control points a day when I grind really hard, so how shall anyone count 150000 control points within one hour? And each of these activities are shown 1 hour later in the system. Settlement data/goods not since you can store 1000 of them so it is not balanced at all.
You need 333000 Control points to get a system to fortified, and now you want to decrease the amount of points you get by 35%, HOW many month should players invest into one system to get it to fortified, just that it drops to unoccupied within 1 hour before the tick.
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Glad to hear it!
Is there any update on the bug of ports being built outside of slot 0, making it so their economies can't be influenced by facilities?
Is there any update on the bug of ports being built outside of slot 0, making it so their economies can't be influenced by facilities?
We will have to wait and see how it pans out, but the description of the link mechanic makes me think, that it’s no longer necessary to have the ports in Slot 0 for them to be influenced.
Lovely to read as I come off shift!
Bit bleary eyed - can we delete/ decommission misplaced installations now come patch day? Thanks v much. Im off to bed!
Bit bleary eyed - can we delete/ decommission misplaced installations now come patch day? Thanks v much. Im off to bed!
Yeah I was thinking about this. The primary ports (biggest) will get most of the influence from the built facilities that influence industry. Secondary ports (ie smaller ones) seem to mostly be influenced by local body type and then the general system outcomes - but this then also feeds up to the primary? So building local hubs etc will lead to the primary getting a big modifier but the secondary will be that passive planet/system influence. If it is all additive then it could lead to a lot of interesting markets with a range of goods.
"Adjusting"isn't necessarily "improving"...Wasn't aware it had a heat issue
But \o/
O7
Well throw me down a crater! This looks amazeballs.
Am I going to have to change my forum signature?
Only t-t-t-time will t-t-t-tell.
Am I going to have to change my forum signature?
Only t-t-t-time will t-t-t-tell.
Edit: Deleted. I misinterpreted the info.
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Great news! Good work!
Now can you please increase the colonization range a lot so we can get to the galactic core in our lifetime?
Star density near the core is around 10 million stars per cubic parsec. By contrast, the density of stars in the Sun's neighborhood is only 0.2 star per cubic parsec.
It's getting embarrassing living out here in the boondocks. All my alien friends just cant be bothered to come and visit.
Now can you please increase the colonization range a lot so we can get to the galactic core in our lifetime?
Star density near the core is around 10 million stars per cubic parsec. By contrast, the density of stars in the Sun's neighborhood is only 0.2 star per cubic parsec.
It's getting embarrassing living out here in the boondocks. All my alien friends just cant be bothered to come and visit.
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On another Note, I welcome the chance to customise our Stations, even though it's just the Paintjobs. Though at one point I hope we'll be able to choose the Interiors as well. I'm missing my Palm Trees and smooth clean Looks of the Service Economy, and it doesn't look like the Interiors will change with the Type of Economy most prevalent in a Station by default.
I don't know about you, but I personally would love to build somewhere far away from a supermassive Black Hole that is the Center of our Galaxy. Plus everything is so darn bright there from all the Stars, makes one get Migraine insanely fast.
Yes, this is one of the key questions together with population and growth. This basically comes down to a design choice.
Does FD want to incentivize building mixed systems?
Or does FD want to incentivize specialization?
This is the part that has largely gone unnoticed so far. Am really looking forward to playing around with it.
What is meant by "fully operational"? No idea. That we weren't able to "build fully operational economies" until now, is not the result of the current system, more of the bugs. Stations not working, settlements and ports not offering enough commodities. The "delayed economy influence" bug ( please confirm when you encountered that your builds did not include the latest economy influence in your station: https://issues.frontierstore.net/issue-detail/75021 ).
What is meant by "first month"? No idea. Will this be the first month of the system being colonized, or the first month of a port / facility being added?
What is meant by "population associated with that facility"? No idea. Could be a station specific variable, could be the local zone, could be the system.
Could you elaborate on this? That sounds interesting. Does that mean that POIs for example are more fitting to the powers Ethos?
These "if this body is this its gonna make this colony port have this economy" type of overrides and all the other effects should be visible in game. When you are trying to build a port or whatever it should there say "if you build this type of port/settlement/instalment on this planet/star etc its gonna inherit these and these economies at 0.25 rate or whatever (yea we need to see numbers too)" Instead of having to make more and more spreadsheets
Please implement ingame indicators and also implement the numbers so we dont have to go to player journal and try to reverse engineer how the mechanics works please
Hi All 
I'm still not clear with what happens, or what you should do if your initial port placement (The one that is given to you by default when you first claim a system) is placed around a single unlandable planet with no other local moons or planets associated with it.
For example, a Coriolis Station I built (Pepys Relay In the system Hip 90024) is orbiting around a high metal content world (non landable) with an atmosphere, but with no other planets associated with it directly, is designated at the moment to be a Colony producing Hydrogen and Bio waste.. There are other planets in the system though, with one terrestrial water world, a terrestrial ammonia world and various other planets, some landable ones, some with and some without atmospheres.
In this case there are no 'local' planets associated with this default planet, so how do you ascertain what to build next (and where) in that system to create a strong link to that Coriolis station?
Any clarification would be most welcome.
Jack
I'm still not clear with what happens, or what you should do if your initial port placement (The one that is given to you by default when you first claim a system) is placed around a single unlandable planet with no other local moons or planets associated with it.
For example, a Coriolis Station I built (Pepys Relay In the system Hip 90024) is orbiting around a high metal content world (non landable) with an atmosphere, but with no other planets associated with it directly, is designated at the moment to be a Colony producing Hydrogen and Bio waste.. There are other planets in the system though, with one terrestrial water world, a terrestrial ammonia world and various other planets, some landable ones, some with and some without atmospheres.
In this case there are no 'local' planets associated with this default planet, so how do you ascertain what to build next (and where) in that system to create a strong link to that Coriolis station?
Any clarification would be most welcome.
Jack
Probably because if there's anything that needs Patching from the Update, it can be snuck into the Downtime one day later.
Hi All
For example, a Coriolis Station I built (Pepys Relay In the system Hip 90024) is orbiting around a high metal content world (non landable) with an atmosphere, but with no other planets associated with it directly, is designated at the moment to be a Colony producing Hydrogen and Bio waste..
The HMC planet should override your Coriolis's Colony typing and introduce an Extraction economy after next Wednesday's patch. Whether it will be fully extraction or extraction/colony is something we'll have to see next week.
I have more to complain about space combat for undermining...
- NPC spawns (dropping in SC, at the nav beacon or in the POIs) is just too random and totally unpredictable. More over, NPCs behave like lobotomized lemmings and, with the exception of some POIs like the Powerplay Convoys etc where wings of Anacondas can appear, the rest is not challenging and not funny.
- Ground undermining activities have to be replaced by Powerplay Settlements where it is possible to collect data but also to accomplish other specific types of missions / activities (even combat related). As of now, given the borked C&P, anarchy settlements are the main source of ground undermining merits... as these represent the real weak link in the current framework.
- C&P is borked for undermining (and not only)... ALL POWERPLAY GROUPS have complained about how it has been implemented as it generates frustrating situations, where players can't dock at their starports and so on (see also above the linkage to ground settlements). That also has bad effect on reinforcements... so another reason why we do need powerplay specific settlements/ground POIs.
- Powerplay Conflict Zones... these suffer of issues of instancing (NA players have to use VPNs), appearing and disappearing using different game modes -> FIX THESE FOR CONTESTED ACQUISITIONS.
I have many other points to discuss, but these are the most relevant ones given the incoming changes.
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