Game Discussions Star Citizen Discussion Thread v12

Viajero

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Viajero
amigacooke said:
Yeah, or early access ships.
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I donā€™t know man, ā€œturretsā€ seems like a much more fundamental and minimum requirement element of a space sim game, that should not be part of any kind of piece meal monetizaciĆ³n, never mind p2w discussion, at all. And yet in the case of SC it may be.

CIG had an individual components store where you could get better lasers, shields, engines etc. Full blown p2w to the individual ship component level. Almost anything and everything could be bought for real money. They stopped it (or at least significantly limited it) a few years ago and it would seem they are just bringing it back under a new make over.
 
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amigacooke

amigacooke
Viajero said:
I donā€™t know man, ā€œturretsā€ seems a much more fundamental and minimum requirement element of a space sim game, that should not be part of any kind of piece meal monetizaciĆ³n, never mind p2w discussion, at all. And yet in the case of SC it is.
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I get the point, it's good for Frontier to do it, but terrible if CIG do it.

But surely you can't 'win' Star Citizen, so it must be okay?
 

Viajero

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Viajero
amigacooke said:
I get the point, it's good for Frontier to do it, but terrible if CIG do it.

But surely you can't 'win' Star Citizen, so it must be okay?
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Not really. I, for one, absolutely think FDEV early access ships are P2W. No doubt about it.

But the key in p2w is the degree of it. Some instances of p2w can be much more easily tolerated by both the player base AND the game balancing and gameplay. In the case of SC its P2W is probably among the more savagely and shamelessly monetized out there AND among the ones that more effectively destroy the game balance and gameplay itself.
 

rootsrat

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rootsrat
Viajero said:
Not really. I, for one, absolutely think FDEV early access ships are P2W. No doubt about it.

But the key in p2w is the degree of it. Some instances of p2w can be much more easily tolerated by both the player base AND the game balancing and gameplay. In the case of SC its P2W is probably among the more savagely and shamelessly monetized out there AND among the ones that more effectively destroy the game balance and gameplay itself.
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Also, the price matters :)
 

metatheurgist

metatheurgist

VR Golgot

VR Golgot
So the sub is an absolute riot of monetization drama and memes...

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1knw0k8/star_citizen_10
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1knw0k8/star_citizen_10/


https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1knuhs7/new_leaked_basebuilding_gameplay_footage
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1knuhs7/new_leaked_basebuilding_gameplay_footage/

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1kne6bc/very_interesting_interview_with_a_member_of_the
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1kne6bc/very_interesting_interview_with_a_member_of_the/


Sitting on top of a downvoted substrate of F5 warriors who can't buy the Idris fast enough :oops:
 
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VR Golgot

VR Golgot
The fun thing about these times of overworked white knights is that the old stories can come to the fore ;)

I bought my crafting machine in the store in 2013 [...]

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I assume that was just sold as a decorative item, right?
I jumped the boat 2015 and lost recognition of the ancient stretch goals and gameplay plans from the elder days.

It was sold under the premise that it would be used for 'overclocking' gear/components - which then more recently became crafting with rare components resources to improve stats instead.
EDIT: Source for the downvoters that it wasn't sold merely as a decoration:
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/en/comm-link/transmission/14989-MISC-Endeavor-Q-A-Part-2
While we see the Endeavorā€™s supercollider (name change pending, re: science!) as the ultimate tool for this task, the climb to that level will start with the already-offered workbench.
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VR Golgot

VR Golgot
Meanwhile, back in the game, there are various signs of server shenanigans...

QT in particular seems to be flakey...

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1knvr99/whats_up_with_quantum
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1knvr99/whats_up_with_quantum/


This one may be hardware specific though? (Can anyone read the bug report?)

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1knwik9/unplayable_since_the_last_update
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1knwik9/unplayable_since_the_last_update/


(Some bonus tales of infinite loading that sound a lot like dead server issues. Bit early for that ;)).
 

Skizomeuh

Skizomeuh
metatheurgist said:
I dunno
www.ign.com

GTA 6 Development Began 'In Earnest' in 2020 Following the 'Massive Success' of Red Dead Redemption 2, Take-Two Says - IGN

Development on GTA 6 began ā€œin earnestā€ in 2020 following the "massive" success of Red Dead Redemption 2, Rockstar parent company Take-Two has said.
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By SC Backer rules that means it's only been in dev for 5 years. Checkmate! ;)
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I meant in the industry there's a "you don't release a game the year a GTA is released" motto :)
 
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