Tamarin from Capuchin has been decently done by modders. And we have Prarie dog so tamarin should be doable.
DLC20 Discussion (maybe, but why not?)
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tbh not many American zoos have South American sections, let alone good ones. The only good ones I know of are Miami’s Amazon, Houston’s Pantanal, National’s Amazonia and my personal favorite, Dallas World Aquarium. Is this the same in Europe and Australia? I feel like the diversity among South American species (in zoos) is pretty similar to PZ aside from the Amazon River giants, birds, and monkeys.
Australian here, I've seen very few south American non-birds in several zoos across Australia. Really just Tapir, Agouti, Capybara, Maned Wolf, Squirrel Monkey, quite a few Tamarins (please Tamarins in the next DLC frontier!)
Slightly off topic but I just realised apart from the Pandas at Adelaide zoo I've never seen a bear, we just seem to not have any bears in the country... I suppose they're hard to transport over here
In Europe there is also definitely more focus on African and Asian species in general. But I feel like some South-American species that are very common are still missing like the mara, coati, agouti, river turtles, spider monkeys, howlers, tamarins, ibis, spoonbills, seriema. Some of the animals that are already in the roster I would say are pretty uncommon here like the maned wolf, bush dog, ocelot, baird's tapir.
I feel like the main problem with them is more the lack of fittingly small building stuff for them, especially climbing pieces and enrichment items.
On a strict technically level there shouldnt be probelms regarding the size (not a dev, so i could be wrong there)
We haven’t had brown bears for years now, but there’s still a few other bears around. Perth Zoo, Taronga Zoo, the National Zoo & Aquarium and Wildlife HQ have sun bears, while Sea World still has polar bears.
No you're right, there are no technical issues for tamarins or any small sized animals in terms of climbing. Size doesn't have an impact on climbing, it's a pretty persistent myth that keeps going around in the community but it isn't based on any objective tests. Especially now that we have plenty of smaller sized mods and they work just the same as the others.
I don't necessarily fully agree with the lack of smaller climbing pieces though. There's plenty of smaller planks and one of the climbing log sets is perfectly small enough for these animals. In terms of enrichment items I could agree; but on the other hand that never stopped smaller animals from being added to the game so I don't expect them to do so as well for a tamarin.
It's not impossible to do by any means, but there's definitely a time (and thus cost) factor the more work needs relative to existing animals. So for instance, if they wanted to add a third gibbon it'd probably be relatively easy cos the rig and animations would be close to existing species. If you wanna do a spider-monkey tho you'd need to develop a whole new set of prehensile tail brachiation animations.
Either that or it is going to be a longer wait this time and they will post it closer to the reveal? I sure hope they forgot though. They do barely any marketing for PZ these days.
Yeah, totally. I've been following it a lot, really enjoy it. It pairs nicely with Folksy Facelift, too (I keep ZT2 looking as vanilla as possible, since PlanZo is more realistic anyways)
Don't forget Houston's Galapagos Islands
Twice the South America, double the awesomeness
Did they post the cover art last time?
Anyway, it might indeed be a hint, as @FoxyDee says, that we are a bit too far from release.
My copium taking self wants that to be a sign the cover art still gets changed because it is misleading, as there won't be another elephant included in the pack.
They posted it right after the livestream last time
Idk, for my experience of Zoos in Europe there's certainly some specific things that crop up.
My most local zoo has Oncilla, tayra, greater grison, maned wolf, coati, black howler monkey, cotton topped tamarin, goeldis monkey, red bellied tamarin, giant anteater, 2 toed sloth, chilean pudu, a couple of currasow species, scarlet ibis, burrowing owls, greater rhea, crested seriama, a bunch of SA parrots, which I think is fairly respectible showing for a mid sized zoo.
I think the planet zoo issue is that most of SA's zoo diversity is in birds and monkeys rather than more classical large enclosure animals.
Within the last years I think the focus on South American animals and areas in European Zoos got bigger. Last year I discovered the Zoo of Paris that has two big Southamerican Areas (Guyana Rainforest and Paragonia). Also I love the South American Aviary and South American area of Due la Fontaine. Some French Zoos only consist of a South American are (I guess it is Parrot world). And in Zoo Beauval one of the newest attractions is also an South America aviary where plenty of Macaws, Flamingo, waterfowls, anteaters, howler and spider monkey live together in one big aviary.
In Germany some of the most popular zoos have South American areas besides there Asian and African areas, like Zoo Leipzip. Of course the African areas tend to be bigger, but Zoo Leipzig e.g. is now building "Feuerland" with focusses on the South American coasts. I will present Sea lions, Humboldt penguins and macaws in big new exhibits next to the South American animals they are already housing like anteaters, maned wolfs, peccaris, coatis, capybaras, tapirs, maras, flamingos, rheas and vicunas. In the rainforest domes one area is also dedicated to the Amazonian rainforest showing giant river otters, ocelots, sakis, squirrel monkeys, pygmy marmosets, piranhas, sloths ...
And many of the new exhibits in German zoos are build for South American fauna aswell. Münster just opened their new Meranti-Halle. In Cologne Zoo the South American area got some rework especially the beautiful Reichert-House, in Duisburg they just built new exhibits for Spectacled bears and a small rainforest dome around Manatees and Giant river otters which also holds tamaduas, sloths, monkeys and tamarins, in Zoo Krefeld they always focussed on South American fauna and in Switzerland Zurich they are just constructing a big new Pantanal aviary where Anteaters, Tapirs, Flamingo, Macaws, Tamarins, River Otters and monkeys will all live together in one big biome-exhibit.
So I guess yes, within recent years South American fauna got some more importance and focus in European zoos.
So, hold up, from what I understand, Europe hasn't had a buffer influence in South American zones until recently?
I ask because it always felt normal to have SA animals in several zoos all over. In Galveston we have Moody Gardens, which features a huge glass pyramid known as the Jungle Pyramid (South American walk-through habitat) as well as the Houston Downtown Aquaroum, which featured several South Americam fish
I ask because it always felt normal to have SA animals in several zoos all over. In Galveston we have Moody Gardens, which features a huge glass pyramid known as the Jungle Pyramid (South American walk-through habitat) as well as the Houston Downtown Aquaroum, which featured several South Americam fish
Of course there have also always been South American animals in European zoos, that's not what I am saying. But I think it is remarkable that South American areas get more importance when it comes to masterplans and exhibits get more sophisticated. It is not only the Rhea/Tapir/Capybara-exhibits anymore. South American exhibits become important parts of the future of modern European zoos and the people who plan these zoos-of-the-future seem to think more about how they can present a diverse South American fauna in interesting and outstanding exhibits then they did in the past.
Probably next Tuesday