New ship: Panther Clipper

[Rat Catcher]

Eh? Its the largest hauler in the game and hauls- what did you expect? The Thundertank?

Yes

 

[Hamset]

It’s 1238 tons. You get one each of the special class 7 and class 8 cargo racks.

Yes, they talked about the 50% extra, then, two minutes later, they gave details about the racks. So unless I misunderstood, special racks or not, 7s or 8s, the total size is still 50% more.

I like the fact that they announced a stream to unveil the specs and we're still here arguing about cargo capacity xD

 

[Nowski]

They were not specific

They were highly specific. "Specifically a size 7 and a size 8 on the Panther" (link goes to 1:12:22 in the livestream)

 

[Bigmaec]

I'll end this exciting forum evening with one of the frontrunners of my new Panther Clipper's name:

"Managing Expectations"

Good night everyone and o7

 

[oztrich]

50% isn't enough, it's just not. They didn't even confirm that much, they said "around 50%". Which could mean even less.

The hardpoints are also just...really bad. Everyone told me to ignore the data-mined numbers that came out a few weeks ago, and it turns out that's exactly what the PC will have, ugh.

Just a major let down. It's too big and slow and poorly armed to do anything but hauling, but it doesn't excel enough as a hauler to make the tradeoffs worth it for Colonization.

To me that 50% is actually the first time I can quantify a new ship as having "value" to how I play the game. I haven't paid ARX for any of the other ships early access, despite liking every one...because they didn't fundamentally add anything for my play style. At least once SCO modules were released that I could fit to existing ships!

They all felt like nice to have upgrades on existing ships, for different roles, but nothing quantifiably "better".

The PC is objectively better at it's main use than any other ship in the game. I can directly evaluate that hauling for trade or colonisation that would have taken 30 trips, will now take 20 trips instead. That is a huge QoL change, alongside having a new ship to play with. This will be my first ARX early access purchase because getting it earlier means I start saving time and effort straight away.

 

[Helmut Grokenberger]

I like the fact that they announced a stream to unveil the specs and we're still here arguing about cargo capacity xD

This would happen even if they published a datasheet of the damned thing.

 

[SteveWW57]

I would knock off the lowest couple of scots at least for SCA and auto dock. Shields enough for accidental scrapes.

 

[alexzk]

Time to ask for external attached cargo racks without limits.

 

[Stelar 7]

Works for me and counts as a late birthday present. heck yeah!

 

[Doctor Dread]

At least someone pays me for the maths I do in the morning and afternoon!

I do two maths in the morning
I do two maths at night
I do two maths in the afternoon
It makes me feel all right
I do two maths in time of peace
And two in time of war
I do two maths before I do two maths
And then I do two more

 

[Nowski]

I like the fact that they announced a stream to unveil the specs and we're still here arguing about cargo capacity xD

I think they correctly anticipated the booooring to-and-fro about whether capacity X is "enough", and made an end run around it by deliberately generating "engagement" about what exactly is the capacity.

 

[Michael Ryan]

Didn't they said about special additional stlots similar to the military slots, locked only for that special cargo racks. So it is two more additional slots and you can put there 7 or 8 specialised cargo racks

 

[Starshot_Jigawatts]

then maybe there was something wrong with some of the expectations articulated here...

Yeah I'll say. If you don't place expectations on someone, then they never have to do anything extra for you.

Expect better.

 

[Mr Lindsay]

They were highly specific. "Specifically a size 7 and a size 8 on the Panther" (link goes to 1:12:22 in the livestream)

Good catch, I keep getting lost in that bit because of how poorly structured it is, as he then goes to talk about the modules being size 7 and 8 too, but I believe you have it right.

 

[Nowski]

Didn't they said about special additional stlots similar to the military slots, locked only for that special cargo racks. So it is two more additional slots and you can put there 7 or 8 specialised cargo racks

I think they said that the already mentioned 8 and 7 slots were "special", so no.

 

[Helmut Grokenberger]

Yeah I'll say. If you don't place expectations on someone, then they never have to do anything extra for you.

Expect better.

What a disgrace that Frontier didn't follow all the overblown expectations to a T.

 

[Taimaru]

I'll definitely be getting the Panther Clipper... both models.

 

[Kira Goto]

I am sorry to say this but my friend and who have both played elite since it very first started will no longerplay this wonderful game if we don't get a powerpoint in june.

Make sure to write a large announcement thread about your disappointments with Elite and how you started playing it too. (Sorry, is the joke getting old yet?)

At this point in time I wouldn't expect the ship to be changed so what comes, comes. I knew ahead of time a pure hauler (or dedicated to it, even if there will be people using it for other ends) wouldn't really excite me, so, just shrugging shoulders a bit here. The main debate - internally - is whether I value my money or my sanity more by reducing the pain of flying around in that hog of a T9 on my alt...

 

[ATOMIKA13]

Because Panther Clipper doesn't have 2K tons of cargo, I'm not buying with ARX anymore, I'm waiting for it to be free. DISAPPOINTMENT!!!

 

[Michael Ryan]

I think they said that the already mentioned 8 and 7 slots were "special", so no.

Yes, but they mentioned about two (additonal) optionalls locked for specialized cargo or fuel tanks, so...