New Error: Temporary banned from Open play by FDev (not my fault) = Unable to deliver goods to the own staion.

Yuri John

Yuri John
Yuri John said:
-This is a new game error in game-

Origin and course of the error: At the beginning of the week, a PvP player reported me for allegedly logging in combat (it was a normal logout to main menue with 15 sec timer) in the CG system and FDev banned me from open play for a week without prior thorough investigation. (Instances in CG system open mode are oftenl broken) I reported the case to support on Friday and requested a reinvestigation, by adding my own network logs on this case. Since I've encountered this issue with the instance several times before, I would like to ask you to keep an eye on it.
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This case is still open in support. I ll update the thread after getting more informations. Please reply on this thread if you get same error/scenario.

The error is in all game modes present. Relog/Closing the game and restart doesnt fix this/arent working.
I cant sell any loaded goods from my ship to the colonisation market. The market himself doesnt work for me.
I ve receiving this error in all game modes. Open/PG/Solo.

Quote from the Support message i recieved: "As a result we have further restricted your access to the game. This restriction will last 1 week and means that whilst you are still able to play Elite Dangerous, you will not be able to see or interact with other players until the restriction has lifted."
That doesnt including to block any trade ability with stations. Some people here thinking this.

For the idiots who thinking combat logging includes the normal game logout. Here the part about cheating from the official FDev term of conduct:

Cheating​

We do not tolerate cheating of any kind in our online multiplayer games. This includes, but is not limited to, the use of automated scripts, programs or services offered outside of the game to generate a player advantage, altering game code or memory, sharing or trading account access with others or using cheat codes.

We do not tolerate the use of any exploits or taking advantage of any bugs in the game to generate a significant player advantage.

Any user determined to be cheating or exploiting our games or services can be subject to game moderation. Moderation can involve the alteration or removal of in-game assets, a gameplay suspension or ban, or the termination of their Frontier account. Moderation can be applied to active, historical, and promoters of cheating or exploiting.
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Ned Flandalorian

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What error are you even talking about? You haven't said what it is - are you denied docking? Can't deliver the goods? Aren't recognized as the architect? Maybe post a screenshot so people know what you're talking about besides being banned from open...
 

Yuri John

Yuri John
Gwynfor said:
I would guess no. I would guess your Notoriety status is keeping you from delivering goods...
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Its not the notoriety status. Someone at FDev had broken some things on my acc. As example: The most of my carrier sevices was active. After the notice for being banned in open via email all of my carrier sevices was deactivated/dissabled. (I didnt took any changes in that way.)

Ned Flandalorian said:
What error are you even talking about? You haven't said what it is - are you denied docking? Can't deliver the goods? Aren't recognized as the architect? Maybe post a screenshot so people know what you're talking about besides being banned from open...
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I cant sell any loaded goods from my ship to the colonisation market. The market himself doesnt work for me. Thats the point.
 

Agrippa

Agrippa
You're soft-banned for a violation of the game's TOS. That's not a bug. Fdev have been more aggressive the last weeks as far as I heard. Too much very open cheating (still) going on. Look at some pp numbers atm.
 

Yuri John

Yuri John
Agrippa said:
You're soft-banned for a violation of the game's TOS.
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That caused the trade bug for me? Sorry to say this but you didnt understand the case here. Here is the short version for dummies: I ve got banned for a normal game logout with the 15 sec timer in Open Mode during a fight against a PvP/PP player in a bugged instance at Starlace Station in Minerva. Thats the case!
 

Agrippa

Agrippa
Yep, that's an effect of the ban. Nothing you do has any effect on the shared game world for the ban time. Good to know that Fdev finally goes after combat logging.
 

Yuri John

Yuri John
Agrippa said:
Yep, that's an effect of the ban. Nothing you do has any effect on the shared game world for the ban time. Good to know that Fdev finally goes after combat logging.
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That isnt combat logging. Combat logging means to close the game without any logouts. The ALT+F4 combo as example.
 

Yuri John

Yuri John
Agrippa said:
Yep, that's an effect of the ban.
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I think you didnt know anything about the Terms of use and the game. And that isnt helpful in any way. Read to OP!
Quote from the message i recieved: "As a result we have further restricted your access to the game. This restriction will last 1 week and means that whilst you are still able to play Elite Dangerous, you will not be able to see or interact with other players until the restriction has lifted."
 

CMDR Nathan Atterlein

CMDR Nathan Atterlein
Yuri John said:
That isnt combat logging. Combat logging means to close the game without any logouts. The ALT+F4 combo as example.
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Alt+F4 still makes you wait out said danger timer.

It in itself does not legitimize you disappearing into thin air during a pvp combat scenario.

Stop trying to rationalize it, learn from your mistake, and if you intend to play in open, either prepare for such rare dangerous encounters, or take the loss. The middle ground is solo.
 

Yuri John

Yuri John
CMDR Nathan Atterlein said:
I'm starting to think you've not read the op.
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I ve started this thread for the trade error since the action against my acc and not for PvP/Combat logging.

Here the part about cheating from the FDev terms of conduct only for you:

Cheating​

We do not tolerate cheating of any kind in our online multiplayer games. This includes, but is not limited to, the use of automated scripts, programs or services offered outside of the game to generate a player advantage, altering game code or memory, sharing or trading account access with others or using cheat codes.

We do not tolerate the use of any exploits or taking advantage of any bugs in the game to generate a significant player advantage.

Any user determined to be cheating or exploiting our games or services can be subject to game moderation. Moderation can involve the alteration or removal of in-game assets, a gameplay suspension or ban, or the termination of their Frontier account. Moderation can be applied to active, historical, and promoters of cheating or exploiting.


With other words you re wrong. A normal logout during a fight is legal. If you dont understand this ... Nah, not my problem. Take a cookie, be quiet if you only want talk about combat logging. Or be helpful by finding similar cases and link them to this thread.
 
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Ian Doncaster

Ian Doncaster
Yuri John said:
Moderation can involve the alteration or removal of in-game assets, a gameplay suspension or ban
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"A gameplay suspension" is what's been applied to you here - you can't do any gameplay which affects other players. That includes instancing with them directly, but it also includes indirect interactions such as changing colony construction levels, BGS states, Powerplay statuses, etc. (It might even mean that if you trade with a market, it doesn't affect the supply or demand levels seen by other players, I'm not sure how far this one goes into the normally-irrelevant details.)

Yuri John said:
A normal logout during a fight is legal.
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Not by the strict letter of the EULA it isn't. The EULA is written in excessively broad language (sections 3 and 4 especially) which gives Frontier the right to ban any player for anything they like at any time, whether or not that player thought they were cheating or indeed might be thought by a "reasonable" observer to be cheating. They usually don't, for obvious reasons, but they reserve the right to.

Bear in mind also that under EULA 12.6, any prior text, even by Frontier employees, indicating that menu-based logouts during fights are allowed under the EULA is not binding and cannot be relied on.

Anyway, that's not an argument to have with us, because we can't unban you anyway. If you want to argue that what you were doing was perfectly allowed under Frontier's EULA, and therefore you shouldn't have been banned, you need to have that argument with Frontier.
 

Yuri John

Yuri John
Ian Doncaster said:
"A gameplay suspension" is what's been applied to you here - you can't do any gameplay which affects other players. That includes instancing with them directly, but it also includes indirect interactions such as changing colony construction levels, BGS states, Powerplay statuses, etc. (It might even mean that if you trade with a market, it doesn't affect the supply or demand levels seen by other players, I'm not sure how far this one goes into the normally-irrelevant details.)
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Yuri John said:
"As a result we have further restricted your access to the game. This restriction will last 1 week and means that whilst you are still able to play Elite Dangerous, you will not be able to see or interact with other players until the restriction has lifted."
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The trade is excluded from direct player to player interaction. Trade is indirect.
 
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