Fit fuel scoops and explore infinitely they said... 7 red stars in a row [ragequit]

Fuel scoops ?????

Day 1 of my career as a pilot : Fly out and explore, jump into a system with no planets, jump again, no planets... jump again.... insufficient fuel!!!

Aim back at the last place I was, go into super drive and watched the stars go by for 35 minutes, ran out of fuel. Engine shuts down, I then run out of air (sound effects :eek:) , blow up... get another ship.

Lesson learnt : Rule 2: Don't jump without looking.
 
Situations like that just show how backwards the game is.

It's supposed to be the 30+eth Century and you can't fuel scoop every star, but you could do it 30 years ago!

The Computer system on board looks like they're still using a ZX Spectrum.

The trading system still needs a paper and pen approach.

Yup, very futuristic...
 
Situations like that just show how backwards the game is.

It's supposed to be the 30+eth Century and you can't fuel scoop every star, but you could do it 30 years ago!

The Computer system on board looks like they're still using a ZX Spectrum.

The trading system still needs a paper and pen approach.

Yup, very futuristic...

You are also forgetting the same way in and out for every station.

I'd have thought even using todays health and safety er sorry "standards", there would be way in and a way out.

I'd use them back to front just to make things interesting lol.
 
Think thats bad try jumping 22 times and getting scan dater and a nice bounty and then crashing into the side of the station by miss judging the speed and starting again. Great fun

lol I did something similar with a load of scan data and 80K worth of bounty tickets......only my faux pass was in not asking for docking clearance, and then panicking and hitting boost.

school boy errors! (aka playing whilst tired and after a few beers)
 
Sadly this is exactly the kind of post that frontier developments listen to these days.

Expect even easier exploration in the new year, with big red warning signs on the map showing you the easiest routes to take to so and so, infinite fuel tanks, and scoops that will scoop from all star types.

The whiners win. And elite dangerous becomes elite completely harmless and pointless.

God I detest modern gamers who grew up being hand held through every game they ever played.
 
Newbie

Is there even a chance to deploy a distress beacon?
I mean it could take a while before someone, if someone, turns up to help, or try to destroy you.

I have not seen anything like that to be sold for the ship. Is my last chance to self destruct?
 

Antigonos

Banned
Its always been popular, even from well before videogames were invented. You should see it here on the roads in Russia. Someone drives like an idiot, causes an accident, and then starts to blame the other person for the accident. Was almost hit by a woman driver (yes, she was blonde as well) the other day, who was driving, while talking on her mobile, and didn't check the junction when i had right of way. You learn to be fast on your horn over here.

I love Russians and the country, but accountability and responsibility tend to tricky concepts for them to grasp at times.

This is why there are so many car cam videos from Russia on YouTube. You need a record or else the other person will swear to all the gods that your car magically flew sideways into theirs.

russia is really special, you even have a president blaiming the world for the economical crisis in russia, aroused by his own actions on the krim ^^

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Situations like that just show how backwards the game is.

It's supposed to be the 30+eth Century and you can't fuel scoop every star, but you could do it 30 years ago!

The Computer system on board looks like they're still using a ZX Spectrum.

The trading system still needs a paper and pen approach.

Yup, very futuristic...

so you really think in 3300 people will fly in space trucks hauling cargo?
 
I would have been happy to pay a premium to operate scoops on some stars...

Sorry, no amount of money can change astrophysics. If your last target star is a remnant and has exhausted all of its hydrogen fuel in fusion after billions of years, then so have you after your short jump.
 
Situations like that just show how backwards the game is.

It's supposed to be the 30+eth Century and you can't fuel scoop every star, but you could do it 30 years ago!

The Computer system on board looks like they're still using a ZX Spectrum.

The trading system still needs a paper and pen approach.

Yup, very futuristic...

Those things are some of the reasons we love the game and backed it. Now go troll somewhere else
 
Its always been popular, even from well before videogames were invented. You should see it here on the roads in Russia. Someone drives like an idiot, causes an accident, and then starts to blame the other person for the accident. Was almost hit by a woman driver (yes, she was blonde as well) the other day, who was driving, while talking on her mobile, and didn't check the junction when i had right of way. You learn to be fast on your horn over here.

I love Russians and the country, but accountability and responsibility tend to tricky concepts for them to grasp at times.

This is why there are so many car cam videos from Russia on YouTube. You need a record or else the other person will swear to all the gods that your car magically flew sideways into theirs.

Yup. Always been popular - especially when a game fails. Not the games fault, just all those stupid people that couldn't handle it...

What was his problem?
How bad was the penalty for that problem?
How could that be avoided?
Is it intuitive to discover how to avoid it?

Get the idea?

Look at a problem, look at the penalty at what stage in play. If someone spends a week or so building up to lose a week or so of effort - that's pretty much a 100% loss of everything they did getting into a game. most won't say anything, just disappear so its better to look at the problem, the penalty, the avoidance/solution and how easy it should be to find it.

If its rare, that's one thing. If others come back saying it's a problem then it should be looked into to address some part or parts of the chain so it won't happen so readily to others. Otherwise - that more leave than rage can end up being costly to a game others like.
 
So I decided to move away from the starting systems and make my own way in the galaxy. Seven unusable stars in a row, no station to dock at, I blew up everything I'd worked for. What's the point of even having fuel scoops in the game if the risk is you can't use them, so you must dock at every available station anyway just in case?

/uninstall.

Important lesson to all, Have cash in your bank account to pay the insurance for a replacement ship. :)

Log your journey so you don't use same route.
 
Situations like that just show how backwards the game is.

It's supposed to be the 30+eth Century and you can't fuel scoop every star, but you could do it 30 years ago!

The Computer system on board looks like they're still using a ZX Spectrum.

The trading system still needs a paper and pen approach.

Yup, very futuristic...

Please explain to me how you would fit scooping fuel from brown dwarfs into the narrative of the game. The fuel is from hydrogen, brown dwarfs cannot sustain hydrogen, thus you can't scoop them in real life if you even had to, that's why you can't in the game. Ships use hydrogen in their fuel formula, brown dwarfs do not sustain it, so please explain, how would this be possible in the game's narrative?

It seems you know very little. More people would be upset if you could for example scoop fuel from brown dwarfs... that makes no sense. Next thing I hear is that you say every gas giant should be terraformed into terrestrial worlds. Don't be ridiculous. The reason why you can scoop fuel from some stars such as main-sequence ones is because they have hydrogen. Our star has 73% hydrogen composition.

So no, if the fuel formula is comprised of hydrogen you wouldn't be able to scoop a brown dwarf in the 30th century...

You should either understand game design better, read more hard science fiction, read real science or think/do research before you mouth off something you just don't understand. A game's narrative in terms of designs exists to put constraints in place, constraints are important for game design, making every star scoopable makes no sense, many games impose narrative restrictions to create constraints for certain gameplay.

If you do not impose constraints you wouldn't have a reason for some things to exist, if you could scoop every star you might as well just do away with fuel in its entirety any ways. If every creature in a RPG dropped an item appropriate for you every time you killed it, that would render items and stats useless. Certain creatures may only drop certain items/stats or none at all, maybe it's based on a game's narrative, non-demon creatures can't drop demon-infused weapons, that means you'd need to kill demons for them, because somewhere in the game's narrative it says why normal creatures can't drop them.

This is all part of game design 101, and the fuel formula in the game is comprised of hydrogen, and nor every star has a hydrogen composition enough for scooping... like brown dwarfs. This is just basic design, come on. Stop mouthing off something because you fail to grasp it.
 
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Yup. Always been popular - especially when a game fails. Not the games fault, just all those stupid people that couldn't handle it...

What was his problem?
How bad was the penalty for that problem?
How could that be avoided?
Is it intuitive to discover how to avoid it?

Get the idea?

Look at a problem, look at the penalty at what stage in play. If someone spends a week or so building up to lose a week or so of effort - that's pretty much a 100% loss of everything they did getting into a game. most won't say anything, just disappear so its better to look at the problem, the penalty, the avoidance/solution and how easy it should be to find it.

If its rare, that's one thing. If others come back saying it's a problem then it should be looked into to address some part or parts of the chain so it won't happen so readily to others. Otherwise - that more leave than rage can end up being costly to a game others like.

People will leave. It always happens. As this is a B2P game I can't see the problem. I am sure you do, but please, don't elucidate us. Even if you're dying to do so
 
Perhaps something on the system map indicating whether a star will provide fuel or not would be useful, instead of expecting people to have a Hertzsprung-Russell diagram to hand.
 
Please explain to me how you would fit scooping fuel from brown dwarfs into the narrative of the game. The fuel is from hydrogen, brown dwarfs cannot sustain hydrogen, thus you can't scoop them in real life if you even had to, that's why you can't in the game. Ships use hydrogen in their fuel formula, brown dwarfs do not sustain it, so please explain, how would this be possible in the game's narrative?

It seems you know very little. More people would be upset if you could for example scoop fuel from brown dwarfs... that makes no sense. Next thing I hear is that you say every gas giant should be terraformed into terrestrial worlds. Don't be ridiculous. The reason why you can scoop fuel from some stars such as main-sequence ones is because they have hydrogen. Our star has 73% hydrogen composition.

So no, if the fuel formula is comprised of hydrogen you wouldn't be able to scoop a brown dwarf in the 30th century...

You should either understand game design better, read more hard science fiction, read real science or think/do research before you mouth off something you just don't understand.

The world is full of ignorants that believe they are smart and intelligent. Usually just in their heads
 
So I decided to move away from the starting systems and make my own way in the galaxy. Seven unusable stars in a row, no station to dock at, I blew up everything I'd worked for. What's the point of even having fuel scoops in the game if the risk is you can't use them, so you must dock at every available station anyway just in case?

/uninstall.

A slight over reaction to what could just be a mistake on your part. You just just look at this as a learning experience and remember that you need to plan your route before you go running off into space.
 
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