My god!...Solo, group mode and open play can't be the same universe!!!

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Neither - I had to maneuver. He was skilled and had good weaponry - knocked my shields out in no time, launched a limpet and it attached in the final second of my frameshift chargeup.

I would have actually stayed and fought, but I was on the last five minutes of a delivery mission worth a pretty penny.
Hmm.. if you need to actually fight the limpet and possible damage, then piracy might work properly.
I've decided to run a good karma game this time, so I can't try it myself.
Interested for sure after hearing this.
 
The problem people have with piracy is a misunderstanding of the mechanics of mass disruption.

If you're pirating in an eagle or a viper your targets are haulers, and you should have very little problem pulling them out of hyperspace and preventing them from engaging their FSD in time.

If your target is a Type 6 or 7 youre going to need a Cobra minimum, and more likely an ASP, otherwise you don't have the mass to disrupt their FSD.

If your target is a Type 9 you're going to need a Python or a Conda, otherwise you don't have the mass to disrupt their FSD.

If you are trying to pirate a Type 7 with a Viper you're essentially trying to hold up an armored truck with a water gun. Its not going to work, and it shouldn't.
 
Why be so scared of an open pvp server then that would not affect you in any way.

There is a difference between scared and annoyed.

Do you see me go to a Football match (real football, not american handegg) demanding that they start playing basketball cause i like that more? Thats what pvp players do all the time.
 
Hmm.. if you need to actually fight the limpet and possible damage, then piracy might work properly.
I've decided to run a good karma game this time, so I can't try it myself.
Interested for sure after hearing this.

I could see the damn thing coming on the scanner! Of course, with the frameshift charging - I couldn't move - so it was a race between timers. Great experience though - much better than those pilots who just try to blow you up for giggles.
 
The problem people have with piracy is a misunderstanding of the mechanics of mass disruption.

If you're pirating in an eagle or a viper your targets are haulers, and you should have very little problem pulling them out of hyperspace and preventing them from engaging their FSD in time.

If your target is a Type 6 or 7 youre going to need a Cobra minimum, and more likely an ASP, otherwise you don't have the mass to disrupt their FSD.

If your target is a Type 9 you're going to need a Python or a Conda, otherwise you don't have the mass to disrupt their FSD.

If you are trying to pirate a Type 7 with a Viper you're essentially trying to hold up an armored truck with a water gun. Its not going to work, and it shouldn't.

This :)

I think an Anaconda can disrupt the FSD up to 3km away, a Cobra is something like 1.5km, an Eagle is a few 100m at most which is nothing. A type-6 can just about outrun an Eagle as well.
 
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Why be so scared of an open pvp server then that would not affect you in any way.

We're not "on" a server in the sense of EvE or the individual WoW servers that operate on a traditional client/server model. The networking involves P2P Islands between individual player computers, managed by the matchmaking server you log into, and within the match rules corresponding to your chosen mode of play (Solo Online, Private Group Online, All Online).

All Online is already the default mode for people who want PvP. It's not a "server," it's a mode option.

What you're actually asking for, is separate locked modes where player characters can't switch back and forth freely (except in combat) like they can now. That's not how the game has been designed, and it's not the game that was released. People have been given options, and they're using them as they see fit.
 
The truth is if they made an open pvp only server it would be far more popular and make far more money.

Even though it would not affect the original servers up now so many are terrified of this happening for the sole reason it will make the server they are playing on look like the easy carebear version .

Even though it would in no way affect how they play and will bring in far more revenue for thier game they will never stop arguing .

It's a sad showcase of closemindedness .

We have this arleady, its called the Open server, and pvp isnt restricted there in any way other than bounties and lawkeepers.
 
I could see the damn thing coming on the scanner! Of course, with the frameshift charging - I couldn't move - so it was a race between timers. Great experience though - much better than those pilots who just try to blow you up for giggles.
Now you're making me want to return to piracy :D

I despise the "pirates" that are out there just for the kills, they don't gain anything, all they do is lose the potential profit.
 
Not sure if it works fine when there's nothing the pirate can do to stop you from leaving.
Besides trying to nuke your engines to pieces before you jump.

If we where all really in spaceships the victim might try to run away if in an inferior ship and if the ship they where in was faster than the agressors ship surely the only thing the agressor would try to do is as you described i.e. try to shoot out the engines, so when you say "Not sure if it works fine when there's nothing the pirate can do to stop you from leaving" then you go on to say apart from trying to shoot out engines have you not answered your self ?
 
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I haven't complained about anything.

You don't seem very intelligent. I clearly said they should leave it as is.... Read much?

I just said an easy fix that would accommodate a different play style and most likely double thier revenue(if not more) would be to create an open server.

It would not affect you in any way.

Open your mind a little bit before your mouth.

Obviously it is you who can't comprehend. I will refrain from calling you names. You in fact requested another server be created just for your type. I hate arguing with an unarmed opponent, but I await your next childish retort. They designed the game the way the devs wanted it. The servers feel empty as it is. You want to divide it again just to make YOU happy. The game is already open play. You are unhappy some chose to avoid it. It doesn't effect you in the least.

Merry Christmas.
 
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Now you're making me want to return to piracy :D

I despise the "pirates" that are out there just for the kills, they don't gain anything, all they do is lose the potential profit.

Quite right. You'll never hear me call a legitimate pirate a griefer. If you manage to pull me over in the right ship, are scary enough to make me think twice about trying to escape, and demand only enough cargo to fill up your holds and then let me go on my way, then thats exciting and fun, and you earned your take. Im going to curse you in my cockpit, but itll be an exciting experience.

If you follow my handy dandy mass disruption guide to piracy youll find that the mechanics are working quite as intended.
 
Now you're making me want to return to piracy :D

I despise the "pirates" that are out there just for the kills, they don't gain anything, all they do is lose the potential profit.

Go for it! There is nothing wrong with genuine piracy - the cut and thrust of interacting gameplay is very exciting and enjoyable. What I don't want to see is simple "LOLuloozen00b suxxor LTP" rubbish that some people think constitutes piracy.

There is a special place in my routing table for those :D
 
Why be so scared of an open pvp server then that would not affect you in any way.

In talking about an "open pvp server" you display a lack of understanding how this game is built. As you move from place to place you dynamically switch servers, matchmaking and instancing occurs on the fly between you and all the other players that are in the same mode as you and in the same area of space, with p2p connections between you and the others in your instance. The concept of "a pvp server" or "a pve server" or any other kind of server with a dedicated mode is fundamentally inapplicable to the design of ED.

It's not a matter of being scared - I spend about 80% of my time in open play. It's a matter of the entire concept being a non-starter without rebuilding the entire game architecture.

It is never going to happen in this game. Period.
 
You can't be that stupid.

Im actually quite intelligent thank you. Non productive posts like that with no useful content other than childish behavior on the other hand do not become you.

But really, thats exacty what the Open server is. Are you sure you've played this game? If you were looking for CoD in space, this isnt it.
 
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It's completely fine as it is, even assuming the OP had articulated a meaningful set of reasons for changing it (something that has at least been attempted on this subject in the past) there's no practical purpose to doing so.
 
If you were looking for CoD in space, this isnt it.

I've spent ages looking for a cod in space.

This is the closest I've found :(

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We have this arleady, its called the Open server, and pvp isnt restricted there in any way other than bounties and lawkeepers.

You have what you want already, at least one very large Private group which will give you as much PvP action as you want, but you choose to ignore this, which is telling.
 
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