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They hammered out update after update, one after another, sometimes even twice in a single day and even on a Sunday right before taking their holiday... Give them a break man.
Why did they take a holiday break? Can't wrap my head around it.
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They hammered out update after update, one after another, sometimes even twice in a single day and even on a Sunday right before taking their holiday... Give them a break man.
taking some time off now was a good choice. Based on the way FD has handled themselves so far i'd guess the 1st quarter will bring some nice surprises in additional content.
I appreciate you're not trolling, and I'm not saying this to be nasty, but if you can't understand why people who have been working their butts off for the last two years would want to take some time off, now that their product is released and playable, then I don't know what to tell you.
It's not in a perfect state, it could use some patches, balancing and some new content soon I think, but FD should definitely, DEFINITELY, have taken Christmas and New Years off. To think otherwise is to be incredibly entitled, something that plagues modern consumerism.
It's not in a perfect state, it could use some patches, balancing and some new content soon I think, but FD should definitely, DEFINITELY, have taken Christmas and New Years off. To think otherwise is to be incredibly entitled, something that plagues modern consumerism.
In other words "I NEED INSTANT GRATIFICATION"
Too funny, you nailed it there. Being a Canadian with British traditions yet working for an American owned company I see both sides all time. Share holding Yanks would rather you kill yourself than take time off and God forbid if you want time off, they will just look for another employee that won't. Sad how North America has become in the big cities.
"Enforce" 4 weeks off? Wow. Must be nice.
I'm 'allowed' 10 days, but I don't dare take them. Competition for a good paying job like mine is INCREDIBLY intense. Myself and many others fear that taking any time off is an indicator that we are not truly dedicated team players.
I've seen enough to know that there is very little hesitation to replace someone who doesn't give 120% each and every day.
It SHOULD NOT be this way. But, unfortunately for me, my choices are limited.... so I sacrifice a meaningful social/family life for financial security.
Thankful that can escape now and then just to play this game.
Wow you really need to get out of general discussion more and take a look at the game support forum. There are players who haven't been able to log in for weeks, players whose characters are getting wiped due to a bug, players who get disconnected and can no longer log in, hundreds that bought the game for family and friends for Xmas and have had no support after the digital distribution failed.
Be thankful you had a smooth ride. Thousands didn't and have been left with no answers while everyone is off munching mince pies. Frontier launching a week before Christmas was purely to cash in on Christmas sales. To abandon their customers for a week or two immediately aferwards is scndalous. But hey, you got a smooth ride and got to play so what do you care?
I bet the devs were pretty much in stress post release and certainly deserve a break. What i don't understand is the support side of things. It's a 24/7 online force game afterall and depends on everything up and running.
It's not that I don't understand why they'd want time off, but why'd they (or any developer) would choose to take time off during one of the most critical stages of development, launch. It's ballsy. It's hard to grasp.
Not saying a full on sprint indefinitely either, it would of just made more sense for that two week break to occur at the end of January or into February. To push that little bit further to, once again, keep that hook into that launch player base. Once again, it's unheard of in game development.
I am not coming from a players perspective in that "NEED UPDATES UGH NOT ENOUGH CONTENT11". Not a criticism of that at all.
Whereas, the historical perspective and typical developer perspective is "Well, I worked for two years on this game, lets launch it. This is a critical stage where we need to get the word out, get into the community, and push a little further till things settle out - then take a break". It's NOT that they don't deserve a break, just that I can not imagine a situation where the development team would be OKAY with taking the break. I wouldn't if this game was my child.
Please don't shift this to a criticism of the state of the game. Not the point.
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I work in the visual effects industry so we have very similar crunch times to the games industry. I'm sure that the folks at Frontier did some crazy hours to get the game out for the release date, and not just in the last few weeks either. You know, there's a limit to what you can put your body and mind through before you need to rest and reset, I don't know how hardcore it is at Frontier but I've slept at work quite a few after doing all nighters and just being too tired to travel. On some of the more hardcore projects its quite easy to get into the habit of ONLY having time for working and sleeping, because you really want the end result to be the best thing it can be. If Frontier was run by a team of droids I'd complain about them taking time off, but I don't think that's the case 
Let this extremely talented bunch get some sleep.
Let this extremely talented bunch get some sleep.
What companies are these? All of the companies I've worked for only give employees 1 week off, IF you're full time. And good luck with getting full time. The worst company would schedule you for 40 hours a week for three weeks, then the 4th week, would schedule you for 20 hours, just to keep you in a part-time position w/o benefits.
Nothing game breaking? Nothing game breaking? Then why haven't I been able to play the game for a week now due to the transaction server crashing? My game play is limited to logging in, doing something for 15 seconds, blowing up, then going back to the main menu due to transaction server connection failure. How is this not game breaking?
Yes, I've ticketed it. But hey, it's the holidays, right?
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As someone who has worked in the game development industry, I can say with a high degree of certainty that you have no idea what you are talking about. Your being awe-struck merely means that you do not fully comprehend what goes into game development at this level (i.e. - a large company, etc), and what everyone working on the title goes through. You said "perhaps I understand having a day off" - no, you don't understand having a day off, because that is not nearly enough time to give to the families who have sat through lonely nights while their significant others were at work compiling build after build in order to get things working. But this is more of a sensationalist answer, I admit. An easier answer is that the game isn't going anywhere, and the people who whine are the ones who were already (or were going to) whine, and those aren't going anywhere either.
I agree with this. I would also say that the release date was NOT a good idea. Do not release a game right before "holiday break" when everyone goes home.
For you, that is game breaking. But I don't see anyone else reporting that in the forums. I can't know what is happening on the ticket system of course, but it's likely that's something to do with your system, since the game has been working just fine for seemingly everyone else.
Why did they take a holiday break? lol
Just because you like to have fun doesn't mean they don't have to rest. I know we expect cooks to cook but this is getting a bit ridiculous.
E: D is a game it ain't exactly mission critical enough to have no breaks. You ain't exactly talking about ambulance police and fire here.
Just because you like to have fun doesn't mean they don't have to rest. I know we expect cooks to cook but this is getting a bit ridiculous.
E: D is a game it ain't exactly mission critical enough to have no breaks. You ain't exactly talking about ambulance police and fire here.
It's not my system. And people have been reporting it on the forums. It's just a very limited minority, people only exploring outer areas of space. It seemed that it was fixed in the last server update, but now it's happening again when your ship self-destructs or is destroyed.
One guy posted that they could only move him out of the system was by destroying his ship (and not getting insurance money for it).
edit: If I can get the IP address of the transaction server, I can get the contacts needed to find out where the problem is (ISP, backbone, sever operators), just as I did when Aion was released. They too said it was the player's ISP's. Until I contacted every point of failure in the network, had diagnostics ran and emailed back to me, showing it was definitely on Aion's side of things. Then, I posted the results from all of the diags, and the CEO's home phone number for people to call and complain.
Guess what? It was fixed the next day.
One guy posted that they could only move him out of the system was by destroying his ship (and not getting insurance money for it).
edit: If I can get the IP address of the transaction server, I can get the contacts needed to find out where the problem is (ISP, backbone, sever operators), just as I did when Aion was released. They too said it was the player's ISP's. Until I contacted every point of failure in the network, had diagnostics ran and emailed back to me, showing it was definitely on Aion's side of things. Then, I posted the results from all of the diags, and the CEO's home phone number for people to call and complain.
Guess what? It was fixed the next day.
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There are companies in countries outside the US you know. And almost every other developed country has better labour laws. In the country I live in, employees get a minimum of 4 weeks paid leave per year by law, though the law only requires two weeks of that in a single block. That's on top of 10 days of statutory holidays. The dodgy designation of employees as part-time might also be illegal in this country though I'm not 100% sure. Certainly that tactic is not widespread here.