It's always been and always will be an MMO.
Elite Dangerous no longer an MMO?
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It's always been and always will be an MMO.
I don't remember seeing a single reference to it outside this thread.
Imagine only that they will close all that 400 bilion star systems and close as all in a single one, then you will get even more then mmo...every bullet will hit something, hmm space full of ships ...
Never was an MMO. I did feel like they portrayed it to be one. I also didn't pay that much attention though.
I remember seeing it in one of their FAQ's not even that long ago.
I actually tried finding it the other day, and it does appear they removed all references to this game being an MMO. I had specifically searched if this game was an MMO before buying it, and it was on the official site.
I feel a little sad reading this thread. Lots of close minded individuals that can't seem to accept the evidence (direct video quotes, screencaps of the store etc) before them.
Whether out of ignorance or to intentionally mislead, the game has repeatedly been described as an "MMO" and "massively multiplayer online". You can argue the players got it wrong, but these are terms that carry certain connotations to today's gamers. I don't believe Frontier is ignorant to the gaming trends and terms of the last decade+, so it does worry me that this term was used to snare a few players outside the scope of what the game was currently aiming at. Creating something different should be applauded, but surely you can see how creating something different but (possibly) intentionally misleading players expectations to increase sales, rather than the game's merits alone, might leave a bad taste in some player's mouths?
I hope that's not the case, and I don't really care a great deal, either. I currently enjoy the game a great deal, and with any luck the stuff the wings and social stuff they're working on will fill some of the feature gaps in. I just don't know why so many people blindly defend FD like this.
Refer to newsletter 50 Q&A section with David Braben.
Do you now consider Elite: Dangerous to be an MMO?
Technically, it has always been. There are already over 100,000 people playing in the same world. We believe that always-online entertainment is already a reality for the majority. We are delivering a truly huge game using the best technology and designed to stand the test of time, played for many years to come and still be relevant.
It was also advertised as such, see this wayback machine page. http://web.archive.org/web/20140819232955/http://www.elitedangerous.com/about/#stars
Do you now consider Elite: Dangerous to be an MMO?
Technically, it has always been. There are already over 100,000 people playing in the same world. We believe that always-online entertainment is already a reality for the majority. We are delivering a truly huge game using the best technology and designed to stand the test of time, played for many years to come and still be relevant.
It was also advertised as such, see this wayback machine page. http://web.archive.org/web/20140819232955/http://www.elitedangerous.com/about/#stars
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The Devs seem to think that 100,00 players in solo mode make this game an MMO, too funny.
Also, they did advertise it as an MMO because I bought it under this false advertisement.
Also, they did advertise it as an MMO because I bought it under this false advertisement.
Yeah, same. I was expecting some decent sized PvP battles. Maybe we'll still get some, but uh...
As the game stands now, I barely consider it to be a multiplayer game.
They are certainly not all in solo mode. I was blown to bits by one in a warzone. It should be obvious, though, that you can't have 100.000 players simultaneously on the same server, in the same instance, concurrently. Even if 1% of them show up in the same system everything would stop. EVE solved this by slowing down time to a crawl, but this is not a point and click MMO, it would never do for a space sim. Therefore, the game is heavily instanced. However, if you are on open play and frequent the "hot" systems where something is going on you will come across players.
Also, unless I am mistaken, the co-op mechanics are due to be added next month.
Me too. I backed the game because I was expecting something impressive regarding multiplayer and for some strange reason I trusted Mr Braben.
All I have so far is a HD version of the original Elite. Which is fine, but not what I wanted or was promised. I'm hanging in here in the hope he redeems himself.
Don't get your hopes up. A very loud section of this forum seems to think this game was made only for them and everyone else should either join solo mode of take a hike.
I read through every page in this thread and I am completely bewildered at how so many of you are just conveniently ignoring posts by admins proving you wrong about FD calling Elite an MMO. Are you that insanely upset at being wrong that you actively ignore facts? Jesus Christ. As for the MMO debate, using the game world size of Elite does not mean it automatically equates to the MMO acronym; MMO stands for massively multiplayer online...in which the first word is describing the second word of the acronym. Sure, ED is online and has multiple people that can play but 32 player instanced rooms are not massive at all. If we're going by sheer size, the multiplayer mod for Just Cause 2 allowed for 5000 players in a single server.
TL;DR:
1)Fanboys ignoring facts posted by moderators
2)Elite's world size =/= MMO
TL;DR:
1)Fanboys ignoring facts posted by moderators
2)Elite's world size =/= MMO
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Solo mode is nothing more than FD's take on providing PVE only option. Normally in mainstream MMO's the PVE players are visible but unattackable and this would not fit well into ED.
The fact that even players who are in pve 'solo' mode share the same server, galaxy, missions, trade system and events means that this still qualifies under the literal definition on an MMO. In no way shape or form does an MMO have to have pvp at all, it is not one of the criteria. If they removed solo and replaced it with consensual PVP 'flagging' ED would still be exactly the same as now but with many unattackable ships floating around for PVP players to get frustrated by.
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Don't hold your breath. I firmly expect they have quietly abandoned the 'MMO' claim so as to make it easier to not provide any group content like shared missions or facilities like standard MMO grouping and social/communication options.
I expect ED to remain what it is - an essentially single player game with always online copy protection set in a universe where if you want, you can shoot at each other under limited circumstances.
I was kind of hoping that we'd get at least the sort of MMO options Jumpgate had 10-14 years ago but as an old Elite fan I can live with and enjoy ED being what it is.
People expecting the ability to casually group up in-game and play together doing group missions etc are probably going to remain disappointed.
You mean like the very loud scetion of this forum that seems to think the game was made only for them and everyone else should either join open mode or take a hike?
I've not seen anyone suggesting that everyone should play solo mode, only that they should be allowed to play in solo mode and be left in peace. I'm one of those players. I wouldn't have purchased this game if it was MMO play only and my playing on solo does nothing to hurt the gameplay of those who want to play open.
Is it Massive?
Is it Multiplayer?
Is it Online?
If the answers to the above 3 questions are yes, then it is indeed a MMO, while a lot of people will disagree with this it is still the truth, just cause it does not conform to some peoples misunderstanding of the term MMO does not make it any less of a MMO from my perspective. Sure it is missing some features like a global chat and wings currently, but it still does not change the fact it is a MMO by the very definition of the word itself, people need to stop confusing it with the misused modern term meaning of it.
WoW is NOT a MMO it is a MMORPG
Destiny is NOT a MMO it is a MMOFPS
Need for Speed World is NOT a MMO it is a MMORacer
Elite Dangerous is however a MMO in it's most core and basic features, non of that added junk of RPG, FPS, TPS, RTS at the end which takes a game into a completely different category.
Is it Multiplayer?
Is it Online?
If the answers to the above 3 questions are yes, then it is indeed a MMO, while a lot of people will disagree with this it is still the truth, just cause it does not conform to some peoples misunderstanding of the term MMO does not make it any less of a MMO from my perspective. Sure it is missing some features like a global chat and wings currently, but it still does not change the fact it is a MMO by the very definition of the word itself, people need to stop confusing it with the misused modern term meaning of it.
WoW is NOT a MMO it is a MMORPG
Destiny is NOT a MMO it is a MMOFPS
Need for Speed World is NOT a MMO it is a MMORacer
Elite Dangerous is however a MMO in it's most core and basic features, non of that added junk of RPG, FPS, TPS, RTS at the end which takes a game into a completely different category.
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