Well... way too much lens flare á la JJ Abrams....
Elite and SpaceEngine
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Well... way too much lens flare á la JJ Abrams....
its amazing what they have done when only $26k has been donated to SpaceEngine, imagine what they could do with millions
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I don't know why you think that would be necessary. SE runs in real time on high settings on years old hardware pretty well. It's already, in many ways, similar to ED. Just completely seamless. Which is amazing not having to go through a loading screen (hyperspace) each time you want to go somewhere, and watching the entire universe move around you as you move, instead of the skyboxes that we have now. Furthermore, the person making it has long term goals of eventually making a game, which sounds similar to Elite in a lot of ways, in his Engine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rswRCT3097g
Space Engine is amazing. ED should try to do more things like Space Engine.
Mind.....Blown
It's just one guy. One solitary Russian that has done the bulk of this work in his off-time from work. He only semi-recently achieved high enough funding to let him work full time on it for a year.
Totally amazing. I can't imagine what he could produce with some real resources behind him.
When you make a procedural universe engine it's all seamless and all. Once you add in networking everything needs to be synchronised, thus "rooms" need to be designated, In Elite: Dangerous's case every star system is a separate "room" with hyperspace being an actual load screen in between these rooms to load the next systems assets.
Elite will have seamless planetary landings, It's not like you can't go 1 kilometer per second in supercruise (which is safe entry in an atmosphere for space vehicles) it's just that FDEV have limited the minimum speed in supercruise to 30 km/s (before in beta it use to be 10 km/s)
So technically each star system is a room and the skybox is a 2D image and isn't a rendering of 3D scene, In Space engine it depends on your speed, When you're travelling at several AU's a second you'll notice that there is parallax movement of the stars in the back ground, the moment you slow down the skybox then renders a 2D Image and your solar system becomes a room (this is how SE saves memory)
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R when you bolt on a game to Space engine it becomes Elite: Dangerous.
In time Planetary landings will come, just be patient.
Elite will have seamless planetary landings, It's not like you can't go 1 kilometer per second in supercruise (which is safe entry in an atmosphere for space vehicles) it's just that FDEV have limited the minimum speed in supercruise to 30 km/s (before in beta it use to be 10 km/s)
So technically each star system is a room and the skybox is a 2D image and isn't a rendering of 3D scene, In Space engine it depends on your speed, When you're travelling at several AU's a second you'll notice that there is parallax movement of the stars in the back ground, the moment you slow down the skybox then renders a 2D Image and your solar system becomes a room (this is how SE saves memory)
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R when you bolt on a game to Space engine it becomes Elite: Dangerous. In time Planetary landings will come, just be patient.
Probably a major headache. Somehow I imagine him as one who gets best results when no one else is messing around.
Space engine has 2D skyboxes too. It just depends on your speed. Go to the center of the galaxy and then slow down to a hault, you'll notice the game saves the scene as a 2D skybox.
Interesting. I've never noticed. In any case, the transition from skybox to stars, nebula, galaxies, etcetera actually being objects that you can fly past in real time feels pretty darn seamless. I'd like to see traveling between stars be more like that than a loading screen and static, non-changing skyboxes.
I agree, How FD should have done hyperspace is to partition it as a whole different instance in itself, And simulating travelling through the galaxy seeing the parallax of the 3D rendered galaxy, Even though it's a technical loadscreen it feels way more seamless and it also provides homage to Frontier developments own "capitol ship battle video"
That's every game. Even the hard core combat flight sims don't really replicate firing missiles at planes that only exist on radar, or turning guns on what looks like a mosquito at a distance. Realism and entertainment rarely mix, unless nudity is involved.
SE is a great idea, and looks terrific. With ED I usually run around 30FPS on my ancient pc, and never below 20. SE sometimes doesn't manage to get multiple frames per second. It is not SEs fault, my pc is just old. But if you take SE and add an actual game to it you'd need to book a session at NASA to actually play it, I am afraid.
It is not SEs fault, my pc is just old. But if you take SE and add an actual game to it you'd need to book a session at NASA to actually play it, I am afraid. That cannot be done in ED because it is a multiplayer universe. You don't just have to keep track of stars and planets, which move slowly and predictably, but also thousands of players which do not. You can't keep it all in one huge instance.
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Eve Online has a server infrastructure that keeps all players in one server space, 10 years of game building and a huge team and resources, and even they have to treat each star system as a separate instance with warp animations to hide transitions.
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The programmer of SE is undoubtedly hugely talented, but I'll wait and see what game he manages to produce before I compare it to ED.
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It uses some pretty unusual camera controls. It's not impossible to use, but just takes some learning. Check out http://en.spaceengine.org/publ/user_manual/1-1-0-1
