"Some people actually did understand the intent behind my words and to them I'm thankful." Sounds like a sect..
An Honest Review From a well-rounded gamer(non-spacenerd)
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"Some people actually did understand the intent behind my words and to them I'm thankful." Sounds like a sect..
Or to put it another way...
YES - yes we do. We would like FD to keep making the game they envision, there is no need for them to compromise their efforts and make the game yet another mediocre pew-click-achievement-WIN snorefest that seems to be so popular these days. Which as far as I can see your ideas have not suggested that would happen.
A lot of us are Very Open to new features and expansion of the core concepts in Elite - that is progress and is to be embraced. What a lot of us don't want to see is many tired and frankly rubbish concepts introduced into Elite because some segment of the gaming community expects them to be there because "every other game has them!" when there is simply no good reason for them to be in Elite. But your review has only offered constructive feed back that might offer real improvement to ED and extend its audience and the overall enjoyment of the game for everyone.
Thank You
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YES and we are the believers, we pull ED towards the light and we have to fight through, all these evil walls of text. The devil trying to turn os away.. and blah blah sorry couldnt help it. Yes its true, its gonne be great and alotta fun
I actually agree with the OP one hundred percent, you are just another ED zealot, sit down fanboy and try to look it objectively please.
Don't worry so much about solo mode, group mode etc, people will get through regardless especially if you're trying this in a popular system, or even if you're not, I for instance maybe living in a different continent from will not ever see you due to the way game instances. I would personally still try to pursue whatever goal you feel like doing and care-less about others, if others really want to come against you and fight they will, or just run the "gauntlet" of open because it excites. For others trust me, its like giving them a ten thousand volt shock and they will rarely venture out.
Yes, but again any company I research you will get negatives, yet lack the details. And how do you know people who are also "typical gamers" aren't seeing the same thing and coming up with a different opinion? Some people love trading, others simply use it as a tool to explore, mine etc or do a combination of things they feel like doing. Sure there are certainly some things in game which is helped if you like Astronomy, but David Braben and some of his team at least are space geeks and it will be reflected in the game.
If it's true about ED being for you Niche fanboys then you guys go ahead and have it. I'll probably see you in SC and be ready to run you down and steal your space goods!
The PU is at least one to three or more years away and we have variables there that haven't been played out during development, things getting dropped because they look good paper, but end up not so good in game or become a huge issue even to get incorporated. That's still to come for SC, but even if things change I am looking forward to seeing and playing what Chris and his team deliver, plus hey I got a 'Tali and a Banu MM
. Also, will the PU end up being instanced and I also believe you'll be able to play in a similar mode to what Elite or Shroud offers.Some of your feedback is well documented, specifically multiplayer which is going to be addressed first as it is quite apparent people are having difficulties with the currently basic provided tools, hopefully you'll keep an eye on this upcoming development as it should hopefully be entering beta fairly soon. Are you signed up for the newsletters? I tend to disagree on compromise or at least use a lot of caution, especially if the feedback is from someone who may not understand the game and if incorporated due to "forum noise" can easily end up in a game that is compromised in a way that not only makes current players upset, but also fails to attract what you're terming "the typical gamer", so in effect attracting no-one new while driving out the old. Really Elite is much closer to a space simulation than a straight out multiplayer PVP pew pew style arcade game and people are quite concerned if this is the direction people want to take it at the expense of others. What really makes you think you're a typical gamer though? Isn't it Frontier's concern about the player base? How do you know if they're really aiming for millions of users? Or perhaps creating a game and improving on a vision which they hope others will also like and offer feedback to make it much more of a reality? First I think a player needs to understand what type of game Elite is and to get a sense of where Frontier want it to go. Sure lots of room to grow what is basically now a good foundation with basic furniture, so we shall see. Having seen other games with much more rocky starts with a niche audience I am looking forward to seeing what is in store for the future whilst enjoying what we have now.
AND YOU SIRE is the devil himself..HERETIC.. and your probably a Tetris FANBOI !!!! Seriously Mr Rorgan the forums is filled, with walls of text like this one. Its beginning to get LOL'able ALOT!!
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Argue over his opinions with counterpoints, perhaps new ideas will emerge, not by name calling as its very unnecessary.
I have enough on my plate with my career thanks lol, It's my free time I'm concerned with on here and it seems I'd be better off doing something else rather then sticking around with the hopes that some real content might arise.
Playing this game in solo mode sounds about as interesting is watching your paint dry, Skyrim was a fluke and it's success was based off the CONTENT!
YES and we are the believers, we pull ED towards the light and we have to fight through, all these evil walls of text. The devil trying to turn os away.. and blah blah sorry couldnt help it. Yes its true, its gonne be great and alotta fun
Actually you acting like you don't even read my wall of text.
I not talking about features what every games have and crap like that, i talking about features and content in general!
Even though i doubt that FD will care enough about the game and i doubt they make any decent changes content-wise to make the game more interesting, i still trying to believe it will all end up good just like you do.
But since FD is a company in the real world and its not a fairy tale, i started to lose my faith.
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And the Mods....
.No doubt Elite launched as a foundation, even Frontier have said so, but the 'hooks' are there for it to grow and they do listen to feedback for sure.
Ermmmm, did you not read about the Elite franchise before purchasing this game? Were you expecting unicorns farting powerups and moondust?
Elite at it's heart has always been about trading with the shooty bits added on, it's also always been about simulation of space and a hardcore one at that, hence a scifi/astronomy nerds dream. That alone had always captured my interest and adventurous side just to go forth and see whats out there in the black.
Elite at it's heart has always been about trading with the shooty bits added on, it's also always been about simulation of space and a hardcore one at that, hence a scifi/astronomy nerds dream. That alone had always captured my interest and adventurous side just to go forth and see whats out there in the black.
OHHH my son, can i call you son ?? well well well and well.. You're should probably get out more, instead of writing these angry walls of evil text, its not healthy. I'd better off doin something else you write, go meet the opposite gender go to the gym, like those 2kg dumbbells like a madman.. We are actually ALOT that like this game, and more with come.. here i walk content, probably also players. g'day sir
You only make yourself pathetic with these posts, if you can't stay civilized then don't read my (and other not fanboys) posts, thank you.
You can read back all my posts and see, even though i feel a huge amount of negativity towards ED for obvious reasons, i always trying to write constructive criticism, i trying to write down what would make the game better and if the only thing you can reply on these ideas is a dumb provocative crap like your previous post, then you hurt more the game than any doomsayers on this forum.
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Oh oh getting angry mister rorgan..
My main gripe with the game is the galaxy map. It's impressive but it's nearly impossible to navigate around in it. And what makes it impossible is that it has too much information, and too much information is hidden depending on the plane of view you are on. The way information is displayed needs to be reworked a bit. For example, if you are in federation space and trying to find the closest empire system is nigh impossible, because information will be hidden for the sake of clarity. They don't really need to change the map, but they need to add more tools of finding specific systems, e.g. auto-fill tool for searching, search parameters involving searching for government types, minor factions, ownership of system, type of industries in system, amount of stations and kinds of stations in a system and most importantly: allowing us to scribble our own notes in the map for personal use (and allow us to search through systems using keywords contained in our notes, for example: searching for the term "Black Market")
This is a valid point that seems to get missed by many. Personally I'm enjoying the game, but then again I'm old school Elite so this is pretty much what I expected but I do realise that for mass appeal there will have to be changes. The game will evolve regardless, we'll just have to wait and see if it's enough.
Given your lack of experience with the space sim genre, why should anyone believe that you know what ED needs to succeed?
When EvE was a month old it had none of that stuff. It was a point and click, one-dimensional trading game and that was pretty much your lot. What CCP have done with it since then is take it from its Elite-clone roots and developed into its own, unique thing. I don't want ED to take on all that stuff that EvE has developed, I want ED to develop in the same way EvE did - down its own path and into something new and uniquely its own.
Elite has got a huge amount of potential through its political background simulation. That is Elite's equivalent of EvE's economic simulation. FD can go in any number of directions with it, and with it being both dynamic and managed there's no telling where it could all lead. The same goes for its unprecedently large galaxy and the exploration game that comes with it.
The space genre needs another EvE like the fantasy MMO genre needed another WoW 5 years ago. Look where chasing the WoW dragon got fantasy MMOs... stale, paralysed and ultimately dead. And that same story has been repeated through almost all of gaming. The next game is always a clone of the last game. It's infinitely ironic that so many gamers bemoan that trend while at the same demanding it continues.
For those of us who never got on with EvE and for those who played it as the only game in town, Elite: Dangerous is exciting. There's a future right here with this game that could finally give us what we've been waiting a very long time for.
Maybe it'll crash and burn. Maybe it'll be the next big thing. Nobody knows. The only thing we do know is that the last-game conservatism has all but killed innovation in gaming. Let Elite innovate. Let it be the master or victim of its own future.
You may want to submit that in another thread on its own, perhaps under Game Features as this thread has descended further into the pits.