An Honest Review From a well-rounded gamer(non-spacenerd)

I actually agree with the OP one hundred percent, you are just another ED zealot, sit down fanboy and try to look it objectively please.

No need to be rude. I'm not any sort of fanboy or zealot. Just an older guy who likes ED.
You seem to just be another one telling me what I do and don't like. At my age I'm sure I know what I like.
Are you always so rude to your elders?
You ought to be ashamed.
 
OHHH my son, can i call you son ?? well well well and well.. You're should probably get out more, instead of writing these angry walls of evil text, its not healthy. I'd better off doin something else you write, go meet the opposite gender go to the gym, like those 2kg dumbbells like a madman.. We are actually ALOT that like this game, and more with come.. here i walk content, probably also players. g'day sir

I'm glad to be an object of your patronizing habits, I think you have an issue with perspective if you think my writing is "evil text". If you wish to personally attack me then I suggest you personally get to know me first.

I'm sure what you wanted was a heated reply filled with offensive language that only fuels your desire to write a "one-up" back at me. Sorry pal I'm not your son and none of your presumptions apply to my life. My girlfriend is wondering why I care so much about "spacegeeks" though, maybe I do need to get going and leave you folks to your thing.

* I did not intend to be inflammatory, nor did I expect such lack of thought in return. I apologize if my walls of texts were too much to read or comprehend as I tried to formulate my thoughts with feelings into words to best express myself. I was wrong and I will think twice before posting my feedback in the future, this experience has been enlightening.
 
No need to be rude. I'm not any sort of fanboy or zealot. Just an older guy who likes ED.
You seem to just be another one telling me what I do and don't like. At my age I'm sure I know what I like.
Are you always so rude to your elders?
You ought to be ashamed.

Sorry but here everyone is equal. Tell me if I am wrong.
 
Why is that people who want to 'save' ED by changing its core always have to resort to name calling and aggressive behaviour?
And newsflash YOUR opinion is as sacred to you as MINE to me. Stop calling people fanboy and weirdos and start arguing some good reason for change beyond "it's boring"
 
This isn't a subscription based MMO with a vested interest in wasting your time.

It is what it is, get as much out of it as you can until you feel there's nothing left you want to experience, then move on and hopefully you enjoyed it enough to come back when more gets added.
For the money I put down I got about 60 hours, over a full month of a compelling and unique experience. I'd say that's fair, and if an interesting looking expansion comes out I'll be happy to pay some more for that because I know the foundation is solid.
 
My take on Frontier as a company and its just my point of view was they needed to get the game out to prove there was enough interest in this genre before taking a risk employing a truck load more people and start adding loads more content. The game as we all know has a phenomenal base to it and the initial game has a few bugs in (some fixed) but pretty damn good. Wings will start to sort out the multiplayer and once that hurdle is done, hold onto your horses as new content is added. I just hope they can get some good devs and enough of them quick enough to get things out quick enough.

I did play elite as a kid the original and a little of the sequel but for 10 years on/off I play fps and majority of that with quake 3 / quake live. Quake is far removed from ED but ED is now splitting my time with Quake. The first game in 10 years really to do that. Tried all the BF's and CODs etc but they are not pure enough for my liking.

The OP has some points but there is nothing new in what he is saying. Hang for the ride it will definitely improve and you may surprise yourself and love it like so many of us already do...
 
This is a valid point that seems to get missed by many. Personally I'm enjoying the game, but then again I'm old school Elite so this is pretty much what I expected but I do realise that for mass appeal there will have to be changes. The game will evolve regardless, we'll just have to wait and see if it's enough.
I think there's reason to believe that there are enough old school gamers around to keep this going, at least if the promised updates to add depth arrive (and there's no reason to believe that they won't). If FD are saying "to hell with mass appeal" and can make it work more power to them. If it brings in more people who appreciate this type of game and have never experienced it before better still. Sure a lot of them will leave but if some stay then hooray to a bit more gaming with depth.

Now I don't think ED is anywhere near perfect (and the reaction to any sort of criticism of it often seems to be ludicrous) but it's good, it's soaking up a frightening amount of my time (the often slow pace makes the hours fly by, rather oddly) and it's a breath of fresh air.
 
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No need to be rude. I'm not any sort of fanboy or zealot. Just an older guy who likes ED.
You seem to just be another one telling me what I do and don't like. At my age I'm sure I know what I like.
Are you always so rude to your elders?
You ought to be ashamed.

Sorry but here everyone is equal. Tell me if I am wrong.

What is being equal got to do with what I said. He was rude calling me names like zealot and fanboy for no good reason.
 
I just play this game on patch days to check if something change, no luck so far, thank god CCP made an incredible game that I enjoy since 2005 and it`s getting better every day.
 
I'm glad to be an object of your patronizing habits, I think you have an issue with perspective if you think my writing is "evil text". If you wish to personally attack me then I suggest you personally get to know me first.

I'm sure what you wanted was a heated reply filled with offensive language that only fuels your desire to write a "one-up" back at me. Sorry pal I'm not your son and none of your presumptions apply to my life. My girlfriend is wondering why I care so much about "spacegeeks" though, maybe I do need to get going and leave you folks to your thing.

* I did not intend to be inflammatory, nor did I expect such lack of thought in return. I apologize if my walls of texts were too much to read or comprehend as I tried to formulate my thoughts with feelings into words to best express myself. I was wrong and I will think twice before posting my feedback in the future, this experience has been enlightening.

For myself, I would rather you not express your opinions as absolutes.

You predict the demise of ED if it isn't altered to suit your preferences. So many of us are happy with the game because we made sure ED would suit us before we bought it.
 
ED is here now, we have a game to play the other Space Sims - Star Citizen anyone? ;) are possibly still years away. First to market and very little problems on release. Tell me which other game has that for 1st day release? Eve Online is over 10 years old and is required reading at some economic universities!! Some of the battles I believe required the output in GDP of 'real' countries in terms of income and lets be honest no one is going to get that kind of money on their own.

We have a playable space sim with something all the others would give their right arms for - a pedigree.
In fact 4 bytes of code in the original Elite made way for all Sandbox and could be argued ALL MMO's or open world and that 4 bytes of code was ----- Cargo Scooping, it changed how you could get to Elite no single persons game was the same getting to Elite. Those who were behind the original Elite are carrying forward in my opinion the legacy of forward thinking This game is only going to get better.
 
While I enjoy this game, it certainly has its flaws, bugs, and weaknesses, and I can see where the OP is coming from.
There's no reason to diss someone because he is pointing out some problems with the game.
If anything we should thank him for his honest feedback which could potentially help to improve the game (if anyone from Frontier was paying attention).
 
While I enjoy this game, it certainly has its flaws, bugs, and weaknesses, and I can see where the OP is coming from.
There's no reason to diss someone because he is pointing out some problems with the game.
If anything we should thank him for his honest feedback which could potentially help to improve the game (if anyone from Frontier was paying attention).

ROFL!

Yeah, really let's hope the devs were paying attention and do the exact opposite of what this troll wants lol
 
Derogatory, dismissive, haughty, snide etc. comments like this do not improve anyone's opinion about you.
I apologize if my walls of texts were too much to read or comprehend
If someone disagrees with you it doesn't automatically mean he/she can't comprehend your message.
And if your message is misinterpreted, you might want look in the mirror to find the most plausible reason for that.
 
First off, I would like to state that I'm not a space enthusiast/geek/nerd. I never cared to watch star trek but I do absolutely love the original star wars and the concept of such a life excites me.

With that said, this review is purely from a 30 year old well rounded gamer. I tend to play a variety of games that do not relate at all to one another and give every game I play an honest effort until an overall opinion is reached. I may get some heat for some of my harsh criticism of the game and Frontier, but I feel like my opinions might be shared by a lot of like-minded gamer's that really wanted to like this game.

The first day or so of playing was very confusing, This stage in a game is often the most fun as learning something new is one of the coolest parts of being a gamer. The lessons learned in the first couple of days were not exactly noob-like lessons of basic combat or how to make a basic bankroll. The missions were confusing and near impossible to find or complete resulting in fines, some bounties did not register, and nobody every says anything about requesting docking with a space station(until you learn the hard way). Many invisible rules to this game that someone with less tolerance then I would probably not put up with, It's not very noobie friendly at all- I actually liked this aspect but I'm a sicko for punishment.

Finding your way through the first few ships is the most fun I've had with the game, hunting bounties and cashing in 100k after an hours worth of work was pretty rewarding at first. Of coarse Once I got to my viper I wanted to find harder,higher bounties- they don't exist!?

So how do I move on up the line? Buy a spacetruck and fly back and forth for hours trading these socalled rare items that have low risk and high reward, and you can do it in solo play to completely avoid any player/pirate interactions. My mind is completely blown at the thought of gold miners and less skilled players just switching offline and doing it in their own protected bubble, AND THE MONEY COUNTS IN OPEN MODE!? WHAT?

After finding out this much of the game I had to go online to do some reading, I needed to know what was up with the things I had issues with and if they were being talked about and/or changed. I found the answers to be disturbing, "We just want more players to dip their toes into the game" So I moved onto my next gripe, the lack of group work: Drive slaving- not going to happen because they want to keep the game more difficult and/or make groups coordinate to be able to fast travel.... This directly butts up against the previous reply of wanting "people to dip their toes into ed", I understand how frustrating it would be to get intradicted by a group of 6 people when you are solo but to not have group travel and group pvp is madness.

My suggestions:
Add in more group play
Make missions easier to find/track- Make GROUP missions
60 LY on the galaxy map? what?
For a typical gamer this game gets insanely boring after about 50 hrs played, if you wanted people to not get what they paid for you did well frontier
More ships and capital ships, encourage massive pvp battles
Live events- Bring those war ships in and start attacking random systems and or spaceports


Frontier as a company

I like the mission statement and their goals, I looked into the company more on glassdoor and such to get a feel for the atmosphere they have going on there. After reading about them, all faith I was holding onto has vanished. Their dev's are vastly underpaid and abused in many different ways. I simply cannot put even a dollar bet on this game ever turning out to be what we all think it should be. This game has no business being in a "released" state.


I'd love to hear more feedback from others that came here with no expectations and found this game to have little left to desire at this point, and what everyone's counter arguments might be. I'm sure I will still play from time to time and mostly hunt bounties but I had hoped this game would take up more of my time(In a good way).

Schindler

Please note that I am disinterested in getting involved with the arguments, but I would like to give you my honest ( :) ) opinion of your post.

The fact that you are not so much of a space enthusiast does bias you a bit more against a game that is very much geared to that very type of gamer. Do I think your opinion invalid for all that? No, quite the opposite - you are entitled to advance your review/opinion as much as any. I DO think that it makes a truly unbiased review impossible, much as if I were to do the same, as I do enjoy the game very much, and therefore at least somewhat biased towards that type of game.

I do think that originally, you were very interested in giving E: D a fair shake, but as there was no real connection (how can you, honestly? If you don't like liver, and you think, "Hey, liver and onions might not be so bad," it won't end well), it really was kinda fated not to be that marriage that bridges the gap. I still have no problem with anything you said. You have no cause to defend yourself for putting forth your thoughts on this.

Your first day (or so) experiences are not unique, as I have clearly seen from the responses from many of the people who have responded in this thread. Myself, I remembered being quite pleased that the game was as I remembered it for control and feel more or less.

I'm glad that you did find some enjoyment in the game, short-lasting though it is, but I've been playing since the alpha, and we're not deriving the same experiences, since I'm still having a whole lot of fun.

I do not have a space truck, or anything. In fact, I am pleased to tell you that I am sitting in my Cobra Mk III, and am just putzing around the stars, doing whatever takes my fancy that day. Some days, I mine, some days, I shoot things, and some days, I ferry goods for space dollars (I also mix it up and do many things in a day if I'm of a mind). I've even thought to myself, "Self, I don't feel like playing at all today," and that becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. :)

I don't care about how other people's actions affect my game, and I have travelled more than 200 ly with nothing but rares in my hold, and all my money (minus barely enough to afford my insurance) tied up in not getting shot, only to be two systems from dropping it off for money, interdicted, where for once, I complied as fast as I could with some rares to make the Commander not shoot me in the face (I really decided that losing a 100k was better than losing all of it), then the pirate decided to leave no witnesses, and wiped out just under 500k of crap I had left, along with my ship. I was furious, and no mistake, but I took it as best I could, dusted myself off, and started again selling stuff I could afford (leave it at 'not much')

I think your ideas are worthy of consideration, although you are the 1.03x10^17 th person to say most of those things, and I imagine that a fair number of people are becoming fatigued at what might feel is constant inundation of the same statements, some of which were addressed in the affirmative by the developers.

I'd like to address your suggestions if I might:

Adding in more group play is one great idea, and I do hope that Wings thing will make good inroads on making a robust multiplayer/friends experience. So, kinda started to be answered by the devs. Let's see it happen, but I remain optimistic.
I really have no trouble with tracking my missions, and I really don't care about group missions.
I'm sorry, but I do not understand the '60 LY on the galaxy map' thing, and would like some clarification. If it was explained, I apologise, as I must have missed it when I read all eleven pages.
I have played the game for far more than 50 hours, and I also see myself as rather a typical gamer, although with my developer experience with Bioware, perhaps I am not.
I have little experience with the capital ship fights, as I found myself doing different stuff instead of heading into disputed/violent sectors as a result of my desire of the day to do different things. Were that I was in the mood to check it out more than a bit, I suppose I might have a different train of thought on it. The more ships thing, I KNOW is going to happen, and I am happy to wait.
Live events...that does seem fun, certainly. I hope something cool happens like that.

I do have a number of concerns about the game -

1) I wish there was a free version for people to create an account (or not), and download to see and try the training missions.
2) I wish that there was a way to route a bit better to far off destinations (not referring to the excellent addons or the route finder to 100 LY. I do find the route finder a bit problematic when I'm aiming for one place that is far off)
3) I wish that some of the things that I liked in the game, such as the frosting of the windows, the bobbleheads, and little cool, worthless things that made the game a bit more...mine were still in the game.

There are other things, like I would like to have a way in the game to change the colour of the HUD, for the space cops to not get so sour about an accidental shot across the bow (as a bounty hunter, I'd like it assumed that I'm authorized to pop a cap in a wanted person), although I think they should work me over, and have a FSD jammer (which I would have to destroy the cop to turn off) if I'm pretty clearly trying to make widows and orphans out of their families, I would VERY much appreciate it if the 'Clean' people who start by shooting me with intent turned wanted, so I could get some bounty, I would like some horrifying amount of cost associated with emergency refueling in case I foolishly chose to not refuel (which would mean that the function was reintroduced, but not a reasonable way to get away with cheap gas), and I would like some way to work over the serial killers (pirates, you're filth, but I wouldn't have it for you punks to be missing).

Now, onto the statements regarding Frontier. Please understand that I have no interest in disputing your thoughts regarding the company, as it is little to me. I would like to offer some insight perhaps about glassdoor, and others - they may serve a purpose, but if FD is anything like any company I have developed with, very often, an NDA prevents any developer from commenting on a previous employer for a period of time that is rarely a short period of time. I myself am still prevented from saying much for or against Bioware or their parent company for some period of time yet. As such, I would find that though it does happen, and often anonymously, I do suspect that some, many or even all of the comments (note: I am not saying any of those definitively, as I am not privy to such facts, but I have seen comments on such sites that were proven pretty clearly not originating from ex-employees or current employees (the IP addresses in many cases were traced back to countries where no employees reside, previous or current, and even to people that were proven never to have worked for the companies in question).

Anyway, please do not think for a moment that I don't want your thoughts, just because they are not terribly similar to mine, as I think them valuable. I will freely admit that you shouldn't have ordered the liver and onions if it is not suited to what you like to eat, and to return to the actual topic, if you are not a fan of a particular type of game, you really should consider due diligence. $60 is $60, and it was somewhat foolish to purchase a game that you would already have problem with, just based on the fact that you don't care for such game types.

I imagine that I might now be referred to as a fanboy, or fangirl as the case might be, and possibly reviled by others who might not appreciate that I can see the validity in your words, unneeded as I may or may not see them as being, and that is fine. I play the game for me, not those who like, love, hate, or get violently ill when thinking about the game.

Finally, just as a point of reference, I WILL state that in my opinion, you were not doing a review, you were putting forth your opinion. Might be a small distinction depending on a person's point of view, but it's how I see it, I suppose.

Anyway, I hope that eventually the game becomes more likely to suit you and those who clearly want Elite: Dangerous to be more than it is.

I'm happy with what I get to do in-game, and I do hope that more things get added that result in additional enjoyment for me.

Have a great day,

Commander Leslie
(My, but that Leslie can go on and on and on and on and...)
 
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Please note that I am disinterested in getting involved with the arguments, but I would like to give you my honest ( :) ) opinion of your post.

The fact that you are not so much of a space enthusiast does bias you a bit more against a game that is very much geared to that very type of gamer. Do I think your opinion invalid for all that? No, quite the opposite - you are entitled to advance your review/opinion as much as any. I DO think that it makes a truly unbiased review impossible, much as if I were to do the same, as I do enjoy the game very much, and therefore at least somewhat biased towards that type of game.

I do think that originally, you were very interested in giving E: D a fair shake, but as there was no real connection (how can you, honestly? If you don't like liver, and you think, "Hey, liver and onions might not be so bad," it won't end well), it really was kinda fated not to be that marriage that bridges the gap. I still have no problem with anything you said. You have no cause to defend yourself for putting forth your thoughts on this.

Your first day (or so) experiences are not unique, as I have clearly seen from the responses from many of the people who have responded in this thread. Myself, I remembered being quite pleased that the game was as I remembered it for control and feel more or less.

I'm glad that you did find some enjoyment in the game, short-lasting though it is, but I've been playing since the alpha, and we're not deriving the same experiences, since I'm still having a whole lot of fun.

I do not have a space truck, or anything. In fact, I am pleased to tell you that I am sitting in my Cobra Mk III, and am just putzing around the stars, doing whatever takes my fancy that day. Some days, I mine, some days, I shoot things, and some days, I ferry goods for space dollars (I also mix it up and do many things in a day if I'm of a mind). I've even thought to myself, "Self, I don't feel like playing at all today," and that becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. :)

I don't care about how other people's actions affect my game, and I have travelled more than 200 ly with nothing but rares in my hold, and all my money (minus barely enough to afford my insurance) tied up in not getting shot, only to be two systems from dropping it off for money, interdicted, where for once, I complied as fast as I could with some rares to make the Commander not shoot me in the face (I really decided that losing a 100k was better than losing all of it), then the pirate decided to leave no witnesses, and wiped out just under 500k of crap I had left, along with my ship. I was furious, and no mistake, but I took it as best I could, dusted myself off, and started again selling stuff I could afford (leave it at 'not much')

I think your ideas are worthy of consideration, although you are the 1.03x10^17 th person to say most of those things, and I imagine that a fair number of people are becoming fatigued at what might feel is constant inundation of the same statements, some of which were addressed in the affirmative by the developers.

I'd like to address your suggestions if I might:

Adding in more group play is one great idea, and I do hope that Wings thing will make good inroads on making a robust multiplayer/friends experience. So, kinda started to be answered by the devs. Let's see it happen, but I remain optimistic.
I really have no trouble with tracking my missions, and I really don't care about group missions.
I'm sorry, but I do not understand the '60 LY on the galaxy map' thing, and would like some clarification. If it was explained, I apologise, as I must have missed it when I read all eleven pages.
I have played the game for far more than 50 hours, and I also see myself as rather a typical gamer, although with my developer experience with Bioware, perhaps I am not.
I have little experience with the capital ship fights, as I found myself doing different stuff instead of heading into disputed/violent sectors as a result of my desire of the day to do different things. Were that I was in the mood to check it out more than a bit, I suppose I might have a different train of thought on it. The more ships thing, I KNOW is going to happen, and I am happy to wait.
Live events...that does seem fun, certainly. I hope something cool happens like that.

I do have a number of concerns about the game -

1) I wish there was a free version for people to create an account (or not), and download to see and try the training missions.
2) I wish that there was a way to route a bit better to far off destinations (not referring to the excellent addons or the route finder to 100 LY. I do find the route finder a bit problematic when I'm aiming for one place that is far off)
3) I wish that some of the things that I liked in the game, such as the frosting of the windows, the bobbleheads, and little cool, worthless things that made the game a bit more...mine were still in the game.

There are other things, like I would like to have a way in the game to change the colour of the HUD, for the space cops to not get so sour about an accidental shot across the bow (as a bounty hunter, I'd like it assumed that I'm authorized to pop a cap in a wanted person), although I think they should work me over, and have a FSD jammer (which I would have to destroy the cop to turn off) if I'm pretty clearly trying to make widows and orphans out of their families, I would VERY much appreciate it if the 'Clean' people who start by shooting me with intent turned wanted, so I could get some bounty, I would like some horrifying amount of cost associated with emergency refueling in case I foolishly chose to not refuel (which would mean that the function was reintroduced, but not a reasonable way to get away with cheap gas), and I would like some way to work over the serial killers (pirates, you're filth, but I wouldn't have it for you punks to be missing).

Now, onto the statements regarding Frontier. Please understand that I have no interest in disputing your thoughts regarding the company, as it is little to me. I would like to offer some insight perhaps about glassdoor, and others - they may serve a purpose, but if FD is anything like any company I have developed with, very often, an NDA prevents any developer from commenting on a previous employer for a period of time that is rarely a short period of time. I myself am still prevented from saying much for or against Bioware or their parent company for some period of time yet. As such, I would find that though it does happen, and often anonymously, I do suspect that some, many or even all of the comments (note: I am not saying any of those definitively, as I am not privy to such facts, but I have seen comments on such sites that were proven pretty clearly not originating from ex-employees or current employees (the IP addresses in many cases were traced back to countries where no employees reside, previous or current, and even to people that were proven never to have worked for the companies in question).

Anyway, please do not think for a moment that I don't want your thoughts, just because they are not terribly similar to mine, as I think them valuable. I will freely admit that you shouldn't have ordered the liver and onions if it is not suited to what you like to eat, and to return to the actual topic, if you are not a fan of a particular type of game, you really should consider due diligence. $60 is $60, and it was somewhat foolish to purchase a game that you would already have problem with, just based on the fact that you don't care for such game types.

I imagine that I might now be referred to as a fanboy, or fangirl as the case might be, and possibly reviled by others who might not appreciate that I can see the validity in your words, unneeded as I may or may not see them as being, and that is fine. I play the game for me, not those who like, love, hate, or get violently ill when thinking about the game.

Finally, just as a point of reference, I WILL state that in my opinion, you were not doing a review, you were putting forth your opinion. Might be a small distinction depending on a person's point of view, but it's how I see it, I suppose.

Anyway, I hope that eventually the game becomes more likely to suit you and those who clearly want Elite: Dangerous to be more than it is.

I'm happy with what I get to do in-game, and I do hope that more things get added that result in additional enjoyment for me.

Have a great day,

Commander Leslie
(My, but that Leslie can go on and on and on and on and...)


Leslie,

Thank you for your kind and thoughtful response. I read it intently and enjoyed you sharing your responses and opinions.

To clarify- The 60 ly comment was about not being able to map my trading route past 60 ly. This of coarse makes me alt tab numerous times to a website that tells me where to go next. I don't think a space traveling game as large as this should make players alt tab for navigation.

Liver& Onions- Glad you used this(former chef), I have a rebuttal for you on this one. I did state that I am NOT a space enthusiast but found great joy in the star wars films. I made this statement because even I know there is a difference between trekkies and the star wars crowd. What I wanted to make clear is that I came into this game with a clean slate, I actually loved the videos and reviews of the game and thought that maybe a space MMO is what's good right now and I can get into it for sure! Well I think the problem started with FD's video and marketing and comments directly from the CEO that says "Well we did this because we want as many people as we can to dip their toes in ED".

So with that being said, I think it's a bit rash for some of the backers here to tell any player that isn't "In" with the crowd that "it's just not for you"- Then why is FD trying to sell the game to everyone if it's not for me? In fact I think I'm their target customer, as I've said before- I'm not alone and in my opinion there must be loads of gamer's just like me. I can only back it up however with the 30+ clan mates I convinced to buy the game and didn't like it past the point I got stuck at as well, I told them exactly what was told to me, space mmo that lets you do whatever role you want and conquer with your friends.


GlassDoor- This was probably my biggest mistake in this post, I can't prove those comment's anymore then you can disprove them. However an agreement not to comment on a companies employee health can obviously be ignored when submitting anonymously. I won't get into this anymore then I have but at the time of my disappointment I decided to do a basic search on FD as a company and to read about other games or projects that they have done. My findings were less then encouraging hence my comment on the issue and I admittedly could have jumped to a negative conclusion.

Myself and most of my clan would like to give ED a shot, we won't be logging in daily as of now because we feel there isn't anything to do. We wouldn't feel this way if there actually was interesting things to do. If you guys think mining&trading is fun then hats off to you guys, bounties seem to be the only thing with the ability to get juices flowing and even then the reward isn't very encouraging.

As a group, our biggest problem with the game is simply open/group/solo mode. It leaves us speechless that the company would allow offline players to make online money and even influence and change the online PU. We feel the solution is to separate the two which allows players online to actually have/create/alter the influence of the powers in space.

Haters will hate and those mature enough to have a civil discussion have surfaced and voiced themselves. I'm proud of this post even if it's half full of banter, I may or may not continue to post my feedback and other topics for discussion. I think most of the unrest in this post simply comes from me saying that I'm not a "SpaceNerd" like some of you might be. I did not mean that in a negative way and in fact I am a nerd, I'm an aerospace engineer that builds drones(that's all I can say) and I'm made fun of all the time for not knowing or being able to quote lines from star trek or other similar sci-fi shows. I switch off when I come home and relax and on my free time I enjoy video gaming as I have for at least the past 20 years, I think with that experience my opinion(or review) has some merit.


Muthax- If being a paying customer that has concerns about the product he paid for means that I am a troll, you got me

Zieman- One of the very first responses I got to my initial post was that "I couldn't read past the first line" because it was dubbed a "wall of text" I'm sorry I couldn't help but comment on the lack of ability there, I do take it back if it offended anyone. We all have our dispositions.
 
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