Pointing out that someone knowingly gambled and lost is hardly denigrating.
Agggh! please can we have some form of traffic control in starports
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Harbinger
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Adyin, Do you fly without insurance too?
There is nothing wrong with this strategy if you're prepared to accept the risk that goes along with it but you're certainly not going to get any sympathy here when things don't go to plan. If you can't live with the consequences of collisions without shields then fit some shields.
As to traffic control, if you had a holding delay you're essentially creating a big queue at both ends and you'll likely sit there for 10 minutes on each end due to having to wait for your slot. This would not make the game any better and a 20 minute delay at each station certainly wouldn't improve your credits per hour.
There is nothing wrong with this strategy if you're prepared to accept the risk that goes along with it but you're certainly not going to get any sympathy here when things don't go to plan. If you can't live with the consequences of collisions without shields then fit some shields.
As to traffic control, if you had a holding delay you're essentially creating a big queue at both ends and you'll likely sit there for 10 minutes on each end due to having to wait for your slot. This would not make the game any better and a 20 minute delay at each station certainly wouldn't improve your credits per hour.
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When I first started playing, I would always stick to the side with the green lights, to allow for orderly 2-way traffic..... until I realized that all the NPCs were just going right thru the middle every time. Kind of blew my mind that they went to all the trouble to design things with the red/green navigation lights and then NOT use them. 
If you have red on the left and green on the right then you know that 13 is below you. I hate that pad and I always seem to get it.When I first started playing, I would always stick to the side with the green lights, to allow for orderly 2-way traffic..... until I realized that all the NPCs were just going right thru the middle every time. Kind of blew my mind that they went to all the trouble to design things with the red/green navigation lights and then NOT use them.
Never plunge into the slot without protection.
Heh. I see what you did there.
Never plunge into the slot without protection.
^^ This. And perfectly said
Lets be honest here. Greed won over common sense for those that replaced shield with more cargo racks.
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Traffic control would be a needless hindrance and impact negatively to smuggling, a better solution would be less covered by insurance due to careless and negligence of flying with out a shield fitted. I do hope meteorite shower and other space dangers are added that can effect ships are added at some stage.
^^ This. And perfectly said
Lets be honest here. Greed won over common sense for those that replaced shield with more cargo racks.
Yep, you'll never keep that profit when you have to pay for constant repairs. I was running silent into a station with my clipper and dinged the hull on the way in. It costs 170,000cr...
Unrealistic yes, but then again so are scans before you enter the station. I used to fly and when you crossed a border they would have you go to a customs "circle" and would search your plane before you were allowed to do anything else.
Its not that big a deal but the OP decided to forgo shields. I have had no damage ever putzing in and out of stations in a type 7... with shields.
where are you trading again?
Well.. when i see one of the unshielded cargo runners i boost out of the slot just because merchants running without shields give us such an bad rep ... and 'condas do have plenty of shield too...
This. 100% this.
Especially Docking Queue. In Open at small stations it's just . You end up watching the docks and if you see someone about ready to launch you spam the Docking Request hoping you do it faster then everyone else waiting to get a spot. All this system would need is to inform you that all docking bays are full and if you would accept entering a docking queue to wait your turn.
Also, the game should inform you WHY your docking request is denied. When I first started playing I was confused as to why i couldn't get cleared to dock.
Really? Comparing flying an airplane with todays tech saying that scans in the year 3200 or something is unrealistic? I'll bet if we had technology to scan your cargo before you landed that plane, they would use it.
Scanning your vessel for illegal goods before you enter a starport seems pretty realistic to me. If they got tech to travel 100's of multiples of the speed of light, i'd imagine scanning technology would be pretty simple in comparison. Docking queues when the station is full, however, is beyond the scope of the greatest minds in the Milky Way in ED at the moment.
The entire point is that traffic flow into and out of stations *shouldn't* be a gamble. As you have just pointed out (without the denigration this time) the game as currently programmed can indeed boil down to a gamble. Which is indefensibly poor, in my view. I'm not alone in this view, it appears.
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Shadenfraude may not be denigrating by itself, but posting your shadenfraude in a public forum while implying everything with NPV docking game coding is "good" as it is certainly *is* denigrating.
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Cheerz
Disagree that scans prior to entry are "unrealistic". Bet your ass if that tech was available now it'd be used to scan you prior to landing clearance.
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Cheerz
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Mark H
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PS - I fly too. Sometimes have to enter something called a "hold" or "holding pattern" during busy traffic flow periods. You may have heard of these. ;-)
Because it's relevant again...
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"Docking your ship is a bit like making love to a beautiful woman. Your approach should be calculated, considerate and most of all accurate. There isn't all that much room for error in that slot so be careful otherwise you might end up spreading your load all over the wall instead. Whilst it is certainly true that some slots can take more than one rocket at a time, if at least one of you is a big boy then the others will have to wait their turn - nobody wants a ruptured cockpit. And above all, for god's sake don't enter sideways - she won't thank you for it afterwards."
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"Docking your ship is a bit like making love to a beautiful woman. Your approach should be calculated, considerate and most of all accurate. There isn't all that much room for error in that slot so be careful otherwise you might end up spreading your load all over the wall instead. Whilst it is certainly true that some slots can take more than one rocket at a time, if at least one of you is a big boy then the others will have to wait their turn - nobody wants a ruptured cockpit. And above all, for god's sake don't enter sideways - she won't thank you for it afterwards."