Yes, and yes.
Shinrarta dezhra - founders world. Benifits?
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Yes, and yes.
I wonder what would happen if Jameson Memorial was taken over by another faction. Since I'm against any kind of preferential treatment for backers, I should orchestrate an effort to overthrow the Pilot's Federation. More widely, that raises the question of other systems that need a permit - if players triggered a take-over in any permit system, could the permit requirement be removed? Could the reverse happen, where a coup by an isolationist faction leads to a system needing a permit?
I've equipped my ship without actually visiting founders world yet (although I've used its star to jump in and out of a few times whilst on my way elsewhere). If I sold my A-rated equipment at another location and then came back here, I could buy them at a lower cost? I assume this also then means that they would sell for less if I changed them at a later date, but that isn't a problem.
More cash in my pocket now is better than less cash given later.
More cash in my pocket now is better than less cash given later.
Yes, exactly what you said. I just "upgraded" from a Cobra I'd kitted out elsewhere to a Type 6 entirely bought in Founder's. My Type 6 stuff will sell for less later, but 2 million credits goes a lot further with a 10% discount!
[Of course, if I hadn't lost around 530,000Cr due to two stupid crashes on the same day...]
I hope not! What would be the logic behind that?
The alternative may be actually be worse though - if second hand payments were relative to the local price, you could buy at a discount in Shinrarta Dezhra and then sell it second hand elsewhere for more than you paid for it. Then again as long as the profit margin is lower than regular trading there's no actual problem, other than that ship insurance is effectively protecting your "cargo", and it can't be pirated off you. Some of the modules are pretty high price though so there might be good money in transporting high spec refinery modules.
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What is it with FD and false advertising? They seem to be fond of that somehow...
Yes, but only after the rebuy option expires. While rebuy is active, you can only rebuy it at the same price you sold it for. But basically you can sell your modules at night, log off, and come back in the morning to buy the -10% ones. (Note that this is not an exploit and does not make you any profit, it's simply another way of replacing modules with discounted ones compared to selling them off at another system.)
Assuming all the modules exist in Shinrarta, yes.
Surely it would still make me a profit though? I paid 1.6M for a module in another location, I sell it back for 1.6M and then re-buy it the following morning at 1.44M. Isn't that a profit of 160k per item (original price -10%)?
Not really a profit because when you sell these discounted modules some time in the future, you will only get the discounted price. So all in all, you pay the same.
Agreed. But my analogy does mean I get more cash in the short term? It is especially of benefit if I decide to keep this ship and then invest in a larger ship at a later date, buying modules/ship in Shinrarta and never selling those on my current ship.
You can get a one-off amount of cash, yes, but it's just getting back cash that you spent elsewhere. You spent a million on a gadget, you sell it for a million and replace it for 900k. It's hard to describe that as "it would still make me a profit".
Yup and got the 10% discount.
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Information has already been published that the visible 10% ship discount that didn't work was unintended. Post 1.05 they decided to implement the 10% discount. Nobody was 'cheated' out of any credits and therefore there was no need to refund credits.
I think there's a reasonable case to be made that a 10% discount was advertised, a 10% discount was displayed in the purchase price, but that 10% discount was not applied and all the credits were taken. If a shop labels something as £9, I give them £20 and only get £10 back, I am entirely within my rights to demand that £1 even if the label was a mistake. They could just go through the purchase logs for the appropriate time period and refund everyone automatically. Just be careful not to hand out 4 billion credits to anyone this time!
I guess our understanding of maths differs, as I see that as a 'profit' of 100k for that specific example (it is 100k back in my wallet that was previously tied up in an asset).
Either way, as long as that is feasible to do, I am happy thanks.
Most do, but not all. Obviously you should check before you sell them off... =)
Depends on where you set your point of reference. If you start at 10,000 CR, buy a 1,000 CR module elsewhere, sell it at Jameson Memorial for 1,000 CR, rebuy the same at 900 CR, you will have 9,100 CR, i.e., 900 CR less than you started with. If you go elsewhere to sell the module, you (nowadays) only get the 900 CR for it, so you cannot go above the original 10,000 CR you started with. And you could have got to the same 10,000 CR balance by selling the original module for 1,000 CR anywhere.
Likewise you cannot repeatedly do this to gain wealth - the maximum balance you can get to by selling modules is the same in Jameson Memorial as it is anywhere else. So from that perspective you cannot profit from it, you can only pay 10% less for modules, but you can do that in Jameson Memorial even if you don't first buy the module elsewhere. The "profit" is only a way to get a "cashback" by retroactively applying the discount to your purchase.
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I've read enough,
Going over there ASAP to check and see. My cobra is almost fully A graded, only the thrusters remain to be done. And I'm still looking into what weapons I should take. I can't handle canons well so nowadays I carry four gimballed pulse lasers which do quite a good job. Before that I had 2 gimballed class 2 beams but I like this combo better. Still looking for any low power or other rare pulse or beam but I've read they are hard to find.
Going over there ASAP to check and see. My cobra is almost fully A graded, only the thrusters remain to be done. And I'm still looking into what weapons I should take. I can't handle canons well so nowadays I carry four gimballed pulse lasers which do quite a good job. Before that I had 2 gimballed class 2 beams but I like this combo better. Still looking for any low power or other rare pulse or beam but I've read they are hard to find.
Its actually Shinrarta Dehzra
Woah, necrobump!