Only if you never used the hyperdrive. Hyperspace was not real time.
The Old Elite IV speculation thread
Only if you never used the hyperdrive. Hyperspace was not real time.
Ah yes -this is true. Still, it would have taken considerably longer than it has.
I stand by my post though- E4 needs to be largely single-player in my eyes- sure, add a multiplayer component, but to have it as a pure MMO would change what is to me, the fundemental underpinning of the game- your own 'working' scale model of the galaxy (varied planetary and stellar types, working orbits, close to real star names) which is yours to experience (in your tricked- out Asp Explorer
) as you see fit.
Ah yes -this is true. Still, it would have taken considerably longer than it has.
I stand by my post though- E4 needs to be largely single-player in my eyes- sure, add a multiplayer component, but to have it as a pure MMO would change what is to me, the fundemental underpinning of the game- your own 'working' scale model of the galaxy (varied planetary and stellar types, working orbits, close to real star names) which is yours to experience (in your tricked- out Asp Explorer
Agree with both of these, E4 must firstl and formost be a single player game, things like Co-Op and MMO would be a bolt on the the game, not the main objective by Frontier. Get the single player right and the rest would follow quite easily.
Don't get me wrong I would love to play MMO & Co-Op, but not at the expense of the single player.
I wouldn't put it past them to develop it as a MMO and forget about single player altogether. If there's anything that lends itself to massive multiplayer it's the concept of a galaxy worth of planets full of traders and pirates. Trying to cover multiplayer, MMO/RPG and single player is very difficult as we've already discussed, but picking just one of those would be fairly simple. Also, there's more money for them in MMO.
ja, ja, through a monthly fee, hm? piracy is harmless compared to that!
me and some others would never buy it then.
but on the other hand we're just a small bunch, i guess.
many are willing to spend every month $10,20,30....... (is there a limit?) for a game.
i'm not.
i will play old FE2 then.
on the other hand, i guess it was thurwitt (i might be wrong) who stated once that the big (gold)rush for mmo's is allready over. i can't tell that from my point of view, because i never played a mmo (a lie, i started to play..... i forgot allready it was so unworth), to me it's because you have to play when you started once and of course the rip off i don't like.
i know, when i was younger, much younger i dreamed of such, but the more we discuss that here the less good i found the idea.
the argument's contra are better rather then pro.
maybe pioneer could give in time a answer to that, i f i remember it right tomm's see a possibility for mmo/coop there in future (again i might be wrong, my mind's like carousel, you must know).
but exactly that gives me a headake, what is about customizing the game then, i can't replace/change everything to my flavour if it's a mmo. if you play single no problem, everything is allowed in any game (you don't have to tell them in the end).
me and some others would never buy it then.
but on the other hand we're just a small bunch, i guess.
many are willing to spend every month $10,20,30....... (is there a limit?) for a game.
i'm not.
i will play old FE2 then.
on the other hand, i guess it was thurwitt (i might be wrong) who stated once that the big (gold)rush for mmo's is allready over. i can't tell that from my point of view, because i never played a mmo (a lie, i started to play..... i forgot allready it was so unworth), to me it's because you have to play when you started once and of course the rip off i don't like.
i know, when i was younger, much younger i dreamed of such, but the more we discuss that here the less good i found the idea.
the argument's contra are better rather then pro.
maybe pioneer could give in time a answer to that, i f i remember it right tomm's see a possibility for mmo/coop there in future (again i might be wrong, my mind's like carousel, you must know).
but exactly that gives me a headake, what is about customizing the game then, i can't replace/change everything to my flavour if it's a mmo. if you play single no problem, everything is allowed in any game (you don't have to tell them in the end).
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I think a game like The Old Republic (Bioware MMO) will be the deciding factor in whether core-MMOG's continue to flourish or begin to flounder in the West. They're aiming to capture a single-player experience in a massively multiplayer world, so you can play it entirely solo or play with friends.
I think the Asian market will continue to get more and more popular with MMOGs which will inspire the Western world to march on, and our big games will adopt micro-transaction more and more (where you pay for in-game items, but don’t pay to play). I think the MMO market will also shift towards the social (Facebook) culture of gaming, which is largely a single player experience that contributes towards a social environment/goal - aka playing alongside, but not directly with your friends - as casual gaming is on everyones mind and people are identifying that not everyone can be online with their friends at the same time.
That's my thoughts on the gold rush of MMOs
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This is a good point- Star Wars games in particular harbour fiercely loyal fanbases with sky-high expectations. If Old Republic falls short of these expectations I could imagine it having repercussions on the whole MMO industry.
(Incidently, did anyone else notice the almost comic discrepancy between the ohmygodthatsfreakinawesome cinematic E3 trailer, and the completely underwhelming, world of warcraft-style in game footage? Gah. MMOs do my head in)
Haha, yes. Very true.
If they just brought back the amazing game mechanics of the old SWG with an update to graphics and some balancing, they would make a clean sweep of gamers who want to play a slightly more intelligent MMO.
The way I see it. Franchises brings fan's. And fan high expectations are compensated by there fan dom. They want play there franchise game and the treshold is much lower. That makes game based on franchises with large fandom a lower risk.
Wow is franchise with there warcraft series build up a large fandom. So wenn Wow was market extreem they had there fandom base already in. And wenn they deliver on expercation they where settled strong.
Also I think that MMO market is saturated by this. Second nature of humans is to get the most out of there bucks. So like a fitness abbo it means fitness alot or with a game fee game alot the same game. So it bad for the buck to play many MMO. Just stick with one and play alot. So in essence competition between MMO games is much stronger. A MMO game binds the gamer with it. Draw it out of the market for it's competition.
Altho there are exception. Or games who work with micro tranaction who solve this.
So a healty large franchise help draw player in from other MMO. Also filling a large hole in the MMO market helps to. Some MMO gamer just aren't into Fantasy. There are some Space MMO in productions. So that gap is filled. Before Elite 4 comes out. So it would have as MMO some competition.
The franchise is that strong anymore it eroded. So it depends on masive marketing and must most of al deliver on expectations.
I don't like MMO. But non MMO games like pure SP story based games. HAve a story gameplay of 5 to 20 hour and then you move on, somethimes mid game to the next game who draws your attention. And there is a lot of competition to. While a MMO could draw you ot of the market for the competition for years. SP games you can buy several each month. A tleast a couple each year. A very well thought out Mplay part could extend replayability draticly. Play MW2 for a realy long time. Wich means I do play other games but not that much anymore.
Also the chance that the industry floud the market with MMO is large. They see Wow as a example of size of the market. And that looks good for investors and publishers. Also MMO is a natural answer to piracy. It reduces that conciderly. Publishers and dev's like that to. SP games are the most vunerable to piracy. Very populair online games like MW2 a bit less. So MMO have a good chance to green lighted.
But the game industry had a delayed hit by the financial crisis. Less investors avaible. Some even fall back. Wich killed MMO in production and other lighter franchises. Some game studio's closed.
Wow is franchise with there warcraft series build up a large fandom. So wenn Wow was market extreem they had there fandom base already in. And wenn they deliver on expercation they where settled strong.
Also I think that MMO market is saturated by this. Second nature of humans is to get the most out of there bucks. So like a fitness abbo it means fitness alot or with a game fee game alot the same game. So it bad for the buck to play many MMO. Just stick with one and play alot. So in essence competition between MMO games is much stronger. A MMO game binds the gamer with it. Draw it out of the market for it's competition.
Altho there are exception. Or games who work with micro tranaction who solve this.
So a healty large franchise help draw player in from other MMO. Also filling a large hole in the MMO market helps to. Some MMO gamer just aren't into Fantasy. There are some Space MMO in productions. So that gap is filled. Before Elite 4 comes out. So it would have as MMO some competition.
The franchise is that strong anymore it eroded. So it depends on masive marketing and must most of al deliver on expectations.
I don't like MMO. But non MMO games like pure SP story based games. HAve a story gameplay of 5 to 20 hour and then you move on, somethimes mid game to the next game who draws your attention. And there is a lot of competition to. While a MMO could draw you ot of the market for the competition for years. SP games you can buy several each month. A tleast a couple each year. A very well thought out Mplay part could extend replayability draticly. Play MW2 for a realy long time. Wich means I do play other games but not that much anymore.
Also the chance that the industry floud the market with MMO is large. They see Wow as a example of size of the market. And that looks good for investors and publishers. Also MMO is a natural answer to piracy. It reduces that conciderly. Publishers and dev's like that to. SP games are the most vunerable to piracy. Very populair online games like MW2 a bit less. So MMO have a good chance to green lighted.
But the game industry had a delayed hit by the financial crisis. Less investors avaible. Some even fall back. Wich killed MMO in production and other lighter franchises. Some game studio's closed.
Might be the the research is flawed.
I can imagine a 5 year old boy traind to become a kung fu master at age 35 developed a reaction time 3 time as fast as a cobra snake. Like it seams they know beforhand what attacker want to do. The myth.
But reality is. People game mostly in there youth for some years then quit and pick it up much later. Most gamers quit wenn reachin adulthood.
My big brother discoverd gaming as a patrol head wenn the bought GT5P PS3 bundel. Now playin MW2.
So reaction time trained are only those years wenn your young. Wenn your brain structure develops to what your learn and do a lot.
If you game from your 5th year to 45 this reasearch might aply.
Your brain body developd continliously to the need of fast reaction. What you do in game becomes second nature.
Well I got a huge game gap between wen Atari 2600 was fresh up to the 80386 25Mhz. Might my base talent might not be good either but all factors add up.
I play 3X TC like this mostly in Panther wich is a M7 class Frigate. take on everything from figters to battle cruisers.
A M3+ heavy plus fighter to capture other fighters.
A M7m missile fragate cobra to board other capitalship.
Elite IV release party - the world demands it!
Hello, space cowboys!
Since most of us are waiting 20 years for that great, great day I thought about some sort of release party!
I would buy me some flight ticket to England just to join!
Or fly my own Cobra MKII just to see you all.
So is something planned?
I mean: it really IS some historic day - and I am not kidding!
Who is with me?
PS:
I have narcotics from Riedquat hidden in my escape-capsule for some special party fun!
Hello, space cowboys!
Since most of us are waiting 20 years for that great, great day I thought about some sort of release party!
I would buy me some flight ticket to England just to join!
Or fly my own Cobra MKII just to see you all.
So is something planned?
I mean: it really IS some historic day - and I am not kidding!
Who is with me?
PS:
I have narcotics from Riedquat hidden in my escape-capsule for some special party fun!
I think by the time they release it, it will seem like a steam train simulator and you will have your own Cobra MkVI.
Just as long as we get more information than just an image of a woman running down a corridor beforehand, lol.
The original Elite celebrated it's launch at Thorpe Park... we'll have to see how we can top that
The original Elite celebrated it's launch at Thorpe Park... we'll have to see how we can top that
The ISS?
But yes, it would be great if Mr Braben could drop by the forum now and then, even if it's just to say hello
Oh, and Callum, did he get a chance to look at that video of Pioneer yet? It would mean alot to the devs if he could share his thoughts about it. More video here http://www.spacesimcentral.com/post9006.html#p9006
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