We want you to quit whining and quit the game if you find it such a nuisance (or are they SC fanbois just trying to poison the community? *tinfoilhat*).
With all the negative respons...
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We want you to quit whining and quit the game if you find it such a nuisance (or are they SC fanbois just trying to poison the community? *tinfoilhat*).
I have a mind blowing, revolutionary solution - do not read whining topics.
For people to stop using the childish term 'whiners' would be a start.
My problem is not that I read them - I can take them, and when I don't I just don't look.
It just gives first impression that community is mostly whiners who don't even enjoy game a little.
Complainers are of benefit to FD as they represent a lot of what is in peoples heads.
Positive people also help FD as they give encouragement and state what is good and balance the complainers.
Do we really want a forum with opinion and if so should not negative as well as positive opinion be accepted.
Positive people also help FD as they give encouragement and state what is good and balance the complainers.
Do we really want a forum with opinion and if so should not negative as well as positive opinion be accepted.
I mean it's just weird - whining about whining - you do know this is the internet? It will never stop.
ok on a more serious note - yes I can see that there are some troll/stupid topics here lately. But there are also ones from people that really really like the game, therefore they are upset and worried about some of the design decisions and they just trying to give the constructive criticism - and in my opinion there is nothing wrong with that.
If those people would not care about the game I can assure you that they will just drop it and move one by themselves without someone yelling at the - go play something else.
You need to mix and match a little. I had this buying a Viper. Went "A" Rated across the board and blew the fuses. I found a balance between weapons and utility slot items needs to be found. Use the EliteShipyard website to help you plan.
I think this was roughly my spec.
[Viper]
M: 2D/F Beam Laser
M: 2F/G Multi-cannon
S: 1D/F Cannon
S: 1D/F Cannon
U: 0I Chaff Launcher
BH: 1I Lightweight Alloy
RB: 3A Power Plant
TM: 3C Thrusters
FH: 3A Frame Shift Drive
EC: 2D Life Support
PC: 3A Power Distributor
SS: 3D Sensors
FS: 2C Fuel Tank (Capacity: 4)
3: 3D Shield Cell Bank
3: 3A Shield Generator
2: 2A Fuel Scoop
1: 1D Frame Shift Drive Interdictor
---
Shield: 115.57 MJ
Power : 9.52 MW retracted (79%)
11.96 MW deployed (100%)
12.00 MW available
Cargo : 0 T
Fuel : 4 T
Mass : 101.3 T empty
105.3 T full
Range : 14.65 LY unladen
14.65 LY laden
Price : 2,590,094 CR
Re-Buy: 129,505 CR @ 95% insurance
M: 2D/F Beam Laser
M: 2F/G Multi-cannon
S: 1D/F Cannon
S: 1D/F Cannon
U: 0I Chaff Launcher
BH: 1I Lightweight Alloy
RB: 3A Power Plant
TM: 3C Thrusters
FH: 3A Frame Shift Drive
EC: 2D Life Support
PC: 3A Power Distributor
SS: 3D Sensors
FS: 2C Fuel Tank (Capacity: 4)
3: 3D Shield Cell Bank
3: 3A Shield Generator
2: 2A Fuel Scoop
1: 1D Frame Shift Drive Interdictor
---
Shield: 115.57 MJ
Power : 9.52 MW retracted (79%)
11.96 MW deployed (100%)
12.00 MW available
Cargo : 0 T
Fuel : 4 T
Mass : 101.3 T empty
105.3 T full
Range : 14.65 LY unladen
14.65 LY laden
Price : 2,590,094 CR
Re-Buy: 129,505 CR @ 95% insurance
Where do you go next? Fer De Lance or Vulture. You've reached the limits of the small combat fighter.
Not quite. Those who are not happy spend their time complaining on the forums (and so they should), but those who are happy are not playing, they are on here arguing with the "moaners" and in the process they fuel the fire of negative posts.
Or maybe, just maybe, these guys who the OP calls complainers aren't seeing the game through the rose tinted glasses of nostalgia?
Being an MMO it had to be a grindfest by nature...
ED is not an MMO. If ED is an MMO then so is Farmville.
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Maybe you're not familiar with the way the background sim works (or doesn't), but there are threads where players have put hundreds of hours into testing it, and have a dialogue with FD with regards to it. There are threads discussing why community goals was underwhelming and what could make it better. There are threads discussing how the initial gameplay is so compelling, but runs out of juice too soon, and what they think could be added to help this.
How you choose to perceive topics like this is up to you, and you do need to sift through some average threads, but that doesn't mean you should dismiss all of them based on this. Rather than assuming most threads are there to troll you, read them. Listen to what they're saying and rather than going on the defensive immediately, ask yourself if you can relate to what they're saying. But most of all, ask yourself if it makes sense logically. If you're arguing against logic because they mentioned WoW or EVE (and are therefore trolls to most here), then did you really help to create a more informed discussion? Defend something you enjoy by all means, but don't do it blindly, and not by generalising against anyone with a different opinion to your own.
Awww bless. Sugar, just because ED does not fit with what you think an MMO should be doesn not mean that ED is not an MMO.
I wasn't contesting this. I just asked you to give me some links to such threads, preferably to ones which don't start ranting/rude/whining.
Perhaps, but I think what he means is it doesn't really fit the traditional MMO mold. There's not really much else I can compare it to except the other Elite games.
People expect something substantial its not complicated, look at the community goal at yembo its almost an insult to our intelligence it is literally the simplest possible method of implementation and even then It wasn't thought out to any degree you'd be better asking what went right rather than what went wrong.
To be honest the only reason it was fun is it jammed so many players into one system that we all had something dynamic to do, (deal with other players not the community goal
Just to summarise they convinced traders to run hundreds of runs to the same station, making less profit than anybody with a two way would actually make, with a competition automatically skewed towards bigger is better, with a miniscule reward, an enormous contribution requirement and a global reward that appears to make no sense (5% off fuel.. what?) all so that a station could "magically" appear instantly in a system, instead of being built like i'm pretty sure it was advertised.
Like honestly if yembo never happened, nobody would have noticed the difference, the only success in the whole thing was the traders who got excitement out of being pirated, the pirates that got to be lazy finding targets and the bounty hunters who knew where to find people for once. All 3 of these had nothing to do with the goal other than being herded to a particular system.
Add to this, the fact that a lot of features are broken/bugged or painful to use, and they seem to get less priority than implementing new idiotic things to do, like the useless community grinding. Seriously, FD, you are underestimating your audience. Wrong way to go. And 2 new ships won't help.
Hyperbole like this won't help a bit. It will only alienate potential new players. *sigh*