Goes back to a suggestion I made, probably echoed by others before me, that we could be able to create templated entries into the Bulletin Board for this kind of thing.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=113898&highlight=player+missions
PC Gamer Article on 1.2 Wings
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Goes back to a suggestion I made, probably echoed by others before me, that we could be able to create templated entries into the Bulletin Board for this kind of thing.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=113898&highlight=player+missions
None of that is supported by core game mechanics.
I think 4 is a decent number, gives enough room to have a few wings and other players in an instance / island. Interesting to read you will see status of the wingmen in the UI, that's another reason not to have more as it would take up a lot of UI space.
atak2
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I do not keep up much with Elite's dev blog etc. What is the developers long term vision for the game? Not arguing with you as I hop between this and the other game so I do not mind if this game has another goal. Just wondering what their vision is?
I see your point an agree. While having USS's spawn just for me when I'm hunting a pirate it is all very boring and predictable.
+1000 - kinda didn't expect that.
thats good to see and makes for interesting reading, pity there is no NPC support, but then I guess this is really just adding in the missing multiplayer featire that is needed
What is needed is a scanner so you know what is in the USS before you enter it. I am slightly disappointed that the Wing is limited to 4 players and there isn't the concept of a Solo Wing, so that if I am playing in Solo I can choose to have an NPC AI wing. I was also hoping a Wing would be a faction and therefore could take ownership.
That said its a step up for multiplayer.
That said its a step up for multiplayer.
Just wanted to point you towards Sandro's response to this in the article:
'While the coordinated firepower of a wing will be much increased, the four-pilot limit has been designed to prevent a squadron from owning a system. "It allows multiple wings to be present at any given location and it prevents a single wing from being able to completely dominate through sheer numbers," says Sammarco of the pilot cap. "There’s always room in any star system for more players than any single wing can accommodate, but at the same time, a wing of four still represents a significant increase of capability over a lone vessel provided players cooperate effectively."'
Might give you a better idea as to why the decision was made.
I like it, 4 players isn't enough to overwhelm a single player if he's in a larger ship.
I also like the sound of dangerous uss. This might help solo big ships make some more money, they can take wing missions for higher pay but increased difficulty.
I also like the sound of dangerous uss. This might help solo big ships make some more money, they can take wing missions for higher pay but increased difficulty.
NPC Wingmen most likely still will come. They need NPC dialogs and some improvements in AI.
I can imagine this will drive a lot of single online players into solo mode, as packs of 4 pirates come down on them - obviously some people will work as transport & escort, but for players like myself who generally work alone (and don't have many / any friends who play elite dangerous) it'll be solo mode for busy pirating areas.
Robert Maynard
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Exactly this.
.... or multiples of four - there would be the possibility for more than two wings to exist in the same instance - possibly as many as eight (if everyone's connections were up to it).
atak2
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I must admit I had dreams of Elite going towards more Eve style player-controlled systems (as there are near infinite systems so player systems would not hamper lone players too much). If that's not the devs vision for the game though, fair enough as there will be other games that fill that niche.
Viajero
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Looking good. I just hope peer to peer is up to the challenge...
Would be great if devs could clarify about the USS scalability concerns. I personally hope that what the article meant is that there will be from 1.2 onwards tougher USS out there in general, and not just tailored to wings?
On the 4 player cap I suspect this is also due to the instancing limits we have today, and so to offer a chance for several wings existing together in the same instance, possibly more than 2.
Would be great if devs could clarify about the USS scalability concerns. I personally hope that what the article meant is that there will be from 1.2 onwards tougher USS out there in general, and not just tailored to wings?
On the 4 player cap I suspect this is also due to the instancing limits we have today, and so to offer a chance for several wings existing together in the same instance, possibly more than 2.
Most likely so single players don't get interdicted and slaughtered by a group of 50 gankers like in Eve Online..
No, just no man.... I don't want this to become another version of Eve. I have nothing agaisnt Eve I just don't want to see that happen here because after so long only those who play in large groups will get enjoyment where as the rest those who want to solo will be locked out of systems because the will be destroyed by the bigger group.
The wing of 4 is a great opportunity for collaborative haunting and pirating.
On the other hand I am somewhat concerned about the 4guys gang scaring traders in a specific system.
Hope Frontier will have apropriate answers to that threat. I don't wanna be forced into group/solo play.
So for lone traders hiring NPC wings and/or much more intense activity of System Security is to take place also.
(Only.... hiring wings will cool down my profits 8-( )
Regards,
Miklos
On the other hand I am somewhat concerned about the 4guys gang scaring traders in a specific system.
Hope Frontier will have apropriate answers to that threat. I don't wanna be forced into group/solo play.
So for lone traders hiring NPC wings and/or much more intense activity of System Security is to take place also.
(Only.... hiring wings will cool down my profits 8-( )
Regards,
Miklos