Modes The Solo vs Open vs Groups Thread [See new thread]

[Danube]

If preferred you could join up with Mobius, a group of 4,000 (probably more as I type this) players who play the game in a friendly, PvE manner. Choose Friends And Private Groups on the game menu, and do a search for Mobius then click to request to join up. Take note that there are now a few groups using the name Mobius in one form or another so only pick the one named Mobius and not a similar group with a full stop after the name or any other characters in the name. These are labelled as fake by the original group.

So, all the fun of Open play with no ats there blowing people up just because they can. Bear in mind this ISN'T a guild or a group of players who all hang around together - you play how you want, where you want. There is a form of PvP, should people want to indulge, but only in designated areas.

 

[Turnip579]

I joined MOBIUs last night and started to fly in it today. Will continue tonight. Now I need to figure out how to make money. Mining seems fun but it looks complicated. Need to find info on that I think. Can't go fighting right now. Be like using a sling shot against a tank.

 

[Kyokushin]

PvE groups killing sense of game

I have reading about PvE groups.
I understand somebody do not want play with others, but i think the main sense of game is share the galaxy together.
PvE groups completely distort the sense of game because you are not forced to watch your back for some pirate players. You do not flying with friends, you not gaining money for better ship or weapons.

However, in my ED career i was interdicted only three times by other player since 07.2014. Space is big and possibility of being interdicted or killed by other player is small...
In two cases i safety run in my L9 in other case i turned pirates into a dust with my Clipper.

Of course there is very small group of griefers, but galaxy is so big... if you have poor ship, you are poor fighter so why you are so stupborn and flying at place where they are? Go somewhere else. There is 400mln star systems and if you change your location they will not have to do... or get friends and show them who is the wolf in the galaxy (or just let me know - i take friends and we will help you, but not go to pve or solo = you will loose a lot of fun.. there are also ED Police groups with skilled guys who defend for fun other players)

Open play is NOT PvP
... but require a little thinking when You playing

OK - somebody can say he do not care about multiplayer - no problem.


I think there should be different commander slot for PvE and Solo play and Open Play.

Players who playing, trading in a 'safe' pve or solo should not be able to play on open on same commander.
It is not fair to players who play in open, populating galaxy for good gameplay of all community and taking a litte risk with that.

 

[InMemoriamSirocco]

I have reading about PvE groups.
I understand somebody do not want play with others, but i think the main sense of game is share the galaxy together.
PvE groups completely distort the sense of game because you are not forced to watch your back for some pirate players. You do not flying with friends, you not gaining money for better ship or weapons.

However, in my ED career i was interdicted only three times by other player since 07.2014. Space is big and possibility of being interdicted or killed by other player is small...
In two cases i safety run in my L9 in other case i turned pirates into a dust with my Clipper.

Of course there is very small group of griefers, but galaxy is so big... if you have poor ship, you are poor fighter so why you are so stupborn and flying at place where they are? Go somewhere else. There is 400mln star systems and if you change your location they will not have to do... or get friends and show them who is the wolf in the galaxy (or just let me know - i take friends and we will help you, but not go to pve or solo = you will loose a lot of fun.. there are also ED Police groups with skilled guys who defend for fun other players)

OK - somebody can say he do not care about multiplayer - no problem.

I think there should be different commander slot for PvE and Solo play and Open Play.

Players who playing, trading in a 'safe' pve or solo should not be able to play on open on same commander.
It is not fair to players who play in open, populating galaxy for good gameplay of all community and taking a litte risk with that.

Highlighted your problem for you. It's only what YOU think. Others think different.

 

[Kyokushin]

It would be great to share discussion without personal direction, so please, do not go in that way.

Everybody can think different, so i shared MY point of view. You can agree or not. But if not, you need to live with that.

 

[peterbbb]

Nah. Can't be bothered to argue. Pointless discussion. You will never get why I would rather choose when to be involved in PvP fighting that have it randomly appear when some other player decides to engage with me. ou can play whatever way you want and so can I. By the way, I can set up a private group with my friends and play PvE. What do I lose? Just the possibility of having to fight or run from another player.

 

[Kyokushin]

So thats why there should be other commander slot for groups and solo.

You can play with friends in open, espessialy now, when Wings arrive.

Not every player want to kill you. I have meeting many of players, i am flying on populated systems and everyone is friendly. As i said, a possiblity to meet psychopatic pvp player is very very low.
But if someone roleplaying a pirate way - just drop him a little cargo. Everyone will be happy.

 

[InMemoriamSirocco]

I agree with peterbbb. Pointless discussion. Pointless thread.

 

[Kyokushin]

Discussion is open, but if you disagree it will be good to present some arguments. Not because 'not' is not an argument.
You are not forced to be rude - we just only talking here

 

[carlisle]

While I prefer open to being in a private group or solo (I only went into solo once, and that was to jump a docking queue) I disagree that everyone playing together is the whole sense of the game.

The more important thing is to do what you want and play the game you want... being able to share that with other people is an added bonus for those that want it.

 

[Del-Dredd]

Discussion is open, but if you disagree it will be good to present some arguments. Not because 'not' is not an argument.
You are not forced to be rude - we just only talking here

We are also not forced to reply in any specific way, the game was designed to play how you want, that does not mean forcing people to have one save for each of Solo, Open or group.
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Carlisle has got the correct idea of the game, everyone can play how they want, if that means swapping from Solo or PVE to full Open when the feeling takes them so what it does not hurt you or your playing of the game one iota.
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You stated you do not see many players around due to the size of the galaxy so what if any difference would a few extra players make.

 

[Space Ranger]

I have reading about PvE groups.
I understand somebody do not want play with others, but i think the main sense of game is share the galaxy together.
PvE groups completely distort the sense of game because you are not forced to watch your back for some pirate players. You do not flying with friends, you not gaining money for better ship or weapons.

However, in my ED career i was interdicted only three times by other player since 07.2014. Space is big and possibility of being interdicted or killed by other player is small...
In two cases i safety run in my L9 in other case i turned pirates into a dust with my Clipper.

Of course there is very small group of griefers, but galaxy is so big... if you have poor ship, you are poor fighter so why you are so stupborn and flying at place where they are? Go somewhere else. There is 400mln star systems and if you change your location they will not have to do... or get friends and show them who is the wolf in the galaxy (or just let me know - i take friends and we will help you, but not go to pve or solo = you will loose a lot of fun.. there are also ED Police groups with skilled guys who defend for fun other players)

OK - somebody can say he do not care about multiplayer - no problem.

I think there should be different commander slot for PvE and Solo play and Open Play.

Players who playing, trading in a 'safe' pve or solo should not be able to play on open on same commander.
It is not fair to players who play in open, populating galaxy for good gameplay of all community and taking a litte risk with that.

totally agree ! you should not be allowed to play in open with a ship you gained though solo/private play. Just make it so you have 2 slots. one for open and one for solo/private. or just make the game only open play? as you say, the game is big, if you dont like other players, just jump 200'ish LY away from the main hub, chances of finding players or griefers there are slim..

 

[jpaulwilson1982]

The Race to Elite competition got me into playing Open Mode. Before that I was in Solo only, and when players are just starting out I think Solo is a good option until the player learns the ropes (basic mechanics) of the game. You got to remember there are folks here who have been playing since before release. Just starting out, I did not want to be in direct competition with those experienced and wealthy players. Now, I don't mind playing in open, and honestly its all I play anymore. But given the risks due to bugs alone, I can definately understand someone not wanting to increase their risk of death, because in Open there are folks who hack and folks who exploit the current mechanics. Plus, there are loads of pirates in some systems. Some of those pirates play their roles legitimately, some just like ruining people's days.

If all things were equal, meaning few bugs, few cheaters, few griefers, then I would certainly be behind your argument, Kyo. But as it stands now, I really can't blame anyone who wants to mitigate their risks in this game.

Just my thoughts, though

 

[InMemoriamSirocco]

I understand somebody do not want play with others, but i think the main sense of game is share the galaxy together.

This is exactly what PVE groups are for. Sharing the galaxy together. With people who have vowed not to ruin your fun enjoying it. PVE groups are exactly FOR playing with others. Not against them.

PvE groups completely distort the sense of game because you are not forced to watch your back for some pirate players.

If the sense of the game is being forced to watch your back for some pirate players, I'll happily ruin it by choosing PVE instead. Because I don't want that. I will never be as good at combat as a dedicated pirate player, and I don't want to have to even try. I want to enjoy this game, not live in constant fear of losing progress for the sake of some ganker having his five minutes of ecstasy killing me while playing it.

You do not flying with friends, you not gaining money for better ship or weapons.

Wrong. I do all of that in Mobius group.

 

[Joe Spivey]

Discussion is open, but if you disagree it will be good to present some arguments. Not because 'not' is not an argument.
You are not forced to be rude - we just only talking here

Been discussed to death many times in the mega thread. Please try searching the forum before bringing out another dead horse.

 

[Distance]

I'm personally a 100% open player but I disagree with all you say. A lot of people bought the game for the offline mode which was cancelled. A lot of people bought the game for the 100% solo experience just like the other games. Some people want the best of both worlds and like to play in group with friends. Since FD didn't put in a 100% pve mode the only way for people to opt of of pvp is to play group or solo. If people want to play group or solo it doesn't affect you.

I'd rather have people playing the game they paid for in solo and group helping to finance fd by buying ship skins and further expansions than quitting the game because they're forced in to pvp or forced to spend hundreds of hours in each mode/cmdr slot trading because they need a separate cmdr for each mode. That's the fastest way to lose players. By letting players swap groups it actually encourages people to open as down the line a lot of the group or solo players might dip their toes in the open pool and actually find they like it.

This topic has been done to death since kickstarter and it's not going to change.

 

[Kyokushin]

This is exactly what PVE groups are for. Sharing the galaxy together. With people who have vowed not to ruin your fun enjoying it. PVE groups are exactly FOR playing with others. Not against them.



If the sense of the game is being forced to watch your back for some pirate players, I'll happily ruin it by choosing PVE instead. Because I don't want that. I will never be as good at combat as a dedicated pirate player, and I don't want to have to even try. I want to enjoy this game, not live in constant fear of losing progress for the sake of some ganker having his five minutes of ecstasy killing me while playing it.



Wrong. I do all of that in Mobius group.

You sharing galaxy - 400 blns of systems with 5000 players..... And gaining weapons for low IQ NPC ships (when cobra is totally enought). Sorry, but it have no sense to me (but ok - You like it).
You loosing enjoing of flying with high populated systems, meeting other commanders, sharing ideas between them.

I met in OpenPlay many excellent and friendly people.

There is no fear man. I am playing only on Open. As I said - everybody are friendly. I do not need to have adrenaline alltime. I have been interdicted three times and there is not problem to solve this. You need to have good engines, thats all.
You want to fly with friends - of course - bring them to open. You will get a Wing and you will feel more safe... however i am flying alone in most and i am feel safe in ED space.
There is no need to depopulate galaxy and escaping to small openplay groups. Small, because 5000 peoples in 400bln galaxy is still very small.

Try to look at my point of view. I do not talking about PvP. I am talking about flying in populated galaxy, meeting people, having fun.

A lot of people bought the game for the offline mode which was cancelled.

Thats why there should be a different commander slot for solo/group. These people who do not want to play with other should be able to do it - but on other commander slot.

 

[parazaine]

And you care why?

 

[Herik]

NO FD; Don't change a thing regarding this...

 

[Herik]

While I prefer open to being in a private group or solo (I only went into solo once, and that was to jump a docking queue) I disagree that everyone playing together is the whole sense of the game.

The more important thing is to do what you want and play the game you want... being able to share that with other people is an added bonus for those that want it.

There ya go Kyokushin; my reasoning as well. I would certainly not want it to change.