Or, alternatively, something other than the (buggy) interdiction mini-game which even when it works majorly favors nimble ships over lumbering traders. Not something that makes it trivial for a trader to escape, but something that gives it a better-than-even chance with a skilled pilot at the helm of the trader.
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Apparently it's based on class and size of FSD and interdictor compared.
I have a size 2 interdictor on my cobra, and it's quite a challenge to interdict type-6's if the pilot is any good. However in my viper with a size 3, it's no problem.
Noone is forcing anyone. Probably just your wild imagination. Why would open players want hardcore carebears in open? They would simply keep combat logging ad nauseam even if interdicted once a year. You are forgetting it's mostly solo players who are flying all those condas in open right now (be it thanks to luxury exploit or just simple solo trading).
Unless you can prove your claims, Bangfish, that's just speculation at best, bait at worst. Such things gain infractions if you are not careful.
Trading in the Open is just as profitable as Solo, so long as you are not stupid enough to visit the systems where camping is occurring. People are using the Anaconda to do what? More trading. And with an Anaconda, most NPCs will not interdict you. Clever really when you think about it.
Trading in the Open is just as profitable as Solo, so long as you are not stupid enough to visit the systems where camping is occurring. People are using the Anaconda to do what? More trading. And with an Anaconda, most NPCs will not interdict you. Clever really when you think about it.
Start at page 1, the idea of removing solo and private groups from ED is in this thread - it was in other threads (hence this one being made and mergers going on).
Around pages 30 - 33 I had to post a list of reasons why we have those modes and should keep them - which was updated as the thread went on.... someone quoted the updated list around pages 115 - 125 area.
So yes, there are those trying to force everyone in to open - which was the point of this mega thread.
And you are right, it was stated by those who wanted an offline mode but got stuck with solo - that if they were forced in to open, they'd all start using a macro script to end task on ED. Plus instructions are in the thread how to adjust a router to prevent the P2P system showing you to other ED players by refusing connections to others (a fake solo mode).
As for people flying large ships in open - you cannot prove either way where they got those ships or how they got them - so that is a pointless argument.
[Edit = forgot, that list is in my sig - click on "KS and the DDA" under my picture to read the last time I could be bothered to update it]
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A lot of peope with empowerment issues, like to act out in games as a sort of catharsis to the reality of taking out the trash when mom says, or cleaning up on isle 9.......pleanty of studies done on "Internet Hard Men"...........
"Stuck up, half-witted, Scruffy-looking, Nerf Herder..."
Just to back that up...[video=youtube_share;SSwyNN7ms00]http://youtu.be/SSwyNN7ms00[/video]
If you going to try and vocalise it you need to make the face - it's supreme...
If you going to try and vocalise it you need to make the face - it's supreme...
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Please do post a link to your research, I would be interested to read it or perhaps its "just your wild imagination".
I would love to see what percentage of conda's were bought using the luxury exploit vs solo trading.
So all "carebears" are combat loggers now?
You say "You are forgetting", please do link the where this has been proven previously to be a fact, if I have forgotten or overlooked it I would like to get up to speed on this research.
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Personally I prefer open play, but I can see why people would want to go to solo. In solo you don't have to worry about the type of players that want to make their e-peen look bigger by getting kills of people just wanting to play the game.
I had a couple jobs today I was doing and was not wanted and had no cargo. I then get interdicted and submit as the job I was doing was hunting pirates and find it was a human player. As soon as I saw it was human that was clean I disengaged my weapons. The player asks if I want to join his group and I said I was just doing jobs at the time, then proceed to charge my SC and get told stop or he will shoot which he did just before SC started. So I continue on my way and get interdicted again, this time my ship gets damaged when I come out of SC. It is the same guy and we exchange a few shots and I see he has the better of me and charge SC again. I get out of there and decide the guy isn't gonna let me alone so I set to leave the system and he tried a 3rd time to interdict me but this time my FSD was able to get me out of the system.
I got a video of it though the 3rd interdiction is not on it as I saved my shadowplay video before the 3rd attempt. It is players like this that will kill open play for others.
[video=youtube_share;oLHWyiy0uPo]http://youtu.be/oLHWyiy0uPo[/video]
I had a couple jobs today I was doing and was not wanted and had no cargo. I then get interdicted and submit as the job I was doing was hunting pirates and find it was a human player. As soon as I saw it was human that was clean I disengaged my weapons. The player asks if I want to join his group and I said I was just doing jobs at the time, then proceed to charge my SC and get told stop or he will shoot which he did just before SC started. So I continue on my way and get interdicted again, this time my ship gets damaged when I come out of SC. It is the same guy and we exchange a few shots and I see he has the better of me and charge SC again. I get out of there and decide the guy isn't gonna let me alone so I set to leave the system and he tried a 3rd time to interdict me but this time my FSD was able to get me out of the system.
I got a video of it though the 3rd interdiction is not on it as I saved my shadowplay video before the 3rd attempt. It is players like this that will kill open play for others.
[video=youtube_share;oLHWyiy0uPo]http://youtu.be/oLHWyiy0uPo[/video]
Why FD need to make Open play more appealing to non-combat players Why FD need to make Open play mor
OK, I'll admit, that on the whole I do not have a high opinion of the majority of player pirates.
At best I see them as well meaning, but selfish player who are only interested in promoting their prefared game play style at the expence of others. As worst, many are out right griefers and gankers who can only get their jollies by outright aiming to spoil another players game, while using the excuse of "I'm only role playing" to be openly abusive and offensive.
However, today, I was reminded of what Open play can offer in the way of adding excitement to the game.
After getting back into the game, after the new patch, I was wanting to relocate my T-6 from the south of civilized space to the north, in readiness for my epic exploration mission to the galactic hub and beyond. I have the 'Old Girl' in semi explorer mode, but still have 2 x 32 cargo slots. The thinking being that I'll do a bit of credit rebuilding as I 'womble up north'. Some of the kit I have bought, as suggested as being 'must haves' for making the T-6 into a decent explorer having bit deeply into my credit reserves.
So, off I set, mainly carrying low end cargo, mineral extractors and the likes, but also with a few rares too. The first incident that I had to deal with was an apparent 'tail'. for about 6 jumps, just as the 'countdown started' another player would drop out of hyperspace. Nothing drastic, but enough to get the old 'twitch meter' going. Anyway, he eventually dropped off the scene. I'm guessing he was just another pilot just following the same rout as me for awhile.
Eventually, I dock up, refuel, sell off the cargo and stock up with some minerals, which I can sell at the next 'pit-stop' I have planned.
I had gone about two jumps, winding up for the third, when I see another player zoom in, with weapons hot (hollow triangle symbol). I am instantly interdicted, I go for the interdiction fight, where I do well to start with, but eventually things start to go against me. So, I wind back the throttle and submit. I drop into normal space, slam the throttle open, hit the speed boost and start turning and burning for the next jump point. By this point, my heart is pounding, there's a bead of sweat on my brow and it takes my all to stop my hands trembling as I get ready to have that 'special sort of loving' inflicted on me, as only other players know how. But then I noted that my attacker is an NPC (solid triangle) and is rapidly dropping away.
After what seemed like an age, the 'Old Girl' got her act together and off we jumped, into the next system, only to be met by what appeared to be another player with weapons hot waiting at the star. I turn and burn to my next jump. It seemed to take an age for the drive to cool down, then for her to spool up for the next jump, all the time leaving me sweating like a stuck pig as I am expecting the Interdiction to start. But nothing, off we went, and the rest of that stage of my journey was a smooth run in.
The thing is, it took me a good 15 minutes and a trip into the garden for a 'ciggie' to calm myself down.
But then, I remembered, that is what I love about Space games. Be it Eve, or Elite, no other game seems to be able to match them for that pure adrenalin rush when things appear to be going 'hot'.
OK, had things gone wrong, it would have set me back a good two, three weeks work, as I rebuilt back to the point that I am at now. But you know what, it was worth it for that rush.
I don't know what FD can do to get more into Open. Just giving a trade bonus to Open traders will not work. It has to be something special, something that we can call our own and something that will get more of us into Open play. Something that does add reward for the risk we are taking and shifts Open play away from all risk for no reward.
OK, I'll admit, that on the whole I do not have a high opinion of the majority of player pirates.
At best I see them as well meaning, but selfish player who are only interested in promoting their prefared game play style at the expence of others. As worst, many are out right griefers and gankers who can only get their jollies by outright aiming to spoil another players game, while using the excuse of "I'm only role playing" to be openly abusive and offensive.
However, today, I was reminded of what Open play can offer in the way of adding excitement to the game.
After getting back into the game, after the new patch, I was wanting to relocate my T-6 from the south of civilized space to the north, in readiness for my epic exploration mission to the galactic hub and beyond. I have the 'Old Girl' in semi explorer mode, but still have 2 x 32 cargo slots. The thinking being that I'll do a bit of credit rebuilding as I 'womble up north'. Some of the kit I have bought, as suggested as being 'must haves' for making the T-6 into a decent explorer having bit deeply into my credit reserves.
So, off I set, mainly carrying low end cargo, mineral extractors and the likes, but also with a few rares too. The first incident that I had to deal with was an apparent 'tail'. for about 6 jumps, just as the 'countdown started' another player would drop out of hyperspace. Nothing drastic, but enough to get the old 'twitch meter' going. Anyway, he eventually dropped off the scene. I'm guessing he was just another pilot just following the same rout as me for awhile.
Eventually, I dock up, refuel, sell off the cargo and stock up with some minerals, which I can sell at the next 'pit-stop' I have planned.
I had gone about two jumps, winding up for the third, when I see another player zoom in, with weapons hot (hollow triangle symbol). I am instantly interdicted, I go for the interdiction fight, where I do well to start with, but eventually things start to go against me. So, I wind back the throttle and submit. I drop into normal space, slam the throttle open, hit the speed boost and start turning and burning for the next jump point. By this point, my heart is pounding, there's a bead of sweat on my brow and it takes my all to stop my hands trembling as I get ready to have that 'special sort of loving' inflicted on me, as only other players know how. But then I noted that my attacker is an NPC (solid triangle) and is rapidly dropping away.
After what seemed like an age, the 'Old Girl' got her act together and off we jumped, into the next system, only to be met by what appeared to be another player with weapons hot waiting at the star. I turn and burn to my next jump. It seemed to take an age for the drive to cool down, then for her to spool up for the next jump, all the time leaving me sweating like a stuck pig as I am expecting the Interdiction to start. But nothing, off we went, and the rest of that stage of my journey was a smooth run in.
The thing is, it took me a good 15 minutes and a trip into the garden for a 'ciggie' to calm myself down.
But then, I remembered, that is what I love about Space games. Be it Eve, or Elite, no other game seems to be able to match them for that pure adrenalin rush when things appear to be going 'hot'.
OK, had things gone wrong, it would have set me back a good two, three weeks work, as I rebuilt back to the point that I am at now. But you know what, it was worth it for that rush.
I don't know what FD can do to get more into Open. Just giving a trade bonus to Open traders will not work. It has to be something special, something that we can call our own and something that will get more of us into Open play. Something that does add reward for the risk we are taking and shifts Open play away from all risk for no reward.
Hi there, have you been in the open play? I have been in the open play since day one, an do you know what? It is not so scarry to be there, actually.... I'm lucky IF I see a real player at all, because the universe is so big. The few I meet actually is friendly. Think about it.. You fly around in this galaxy with a lot of NPC's... Boring.. and finaly you meet a real player... Is that the first thing you want to do to shoot him down? No actually you want to talk to him, and maybe you get a friend. I have never been shot down by a real player since the release. There are almost non real players.
Actually, I will say that FD must end single and group player mode so we can get more players in to the open world/play. Open play is dead, its nothing, its crap the way it's now... Noboddy to see...
Stop being so afraid, and come in to the open play... I have never met a "griefer" or a "ganker".
Anywhy, who want to shot down a real player, you do not earn any monney on that anywhy.. The stolen gods.. vell you do not get a lot of monney on the black market. IF you are lucky to get some stolen goods, most of it is destroyed when you shoot em up.
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Said the spider to the fly!
Joke! - Great post... almost tempted to flip, but in a high pop area for spiders!
Said the spider to the fly!
Joke! - Great post... almost tempted to flip, but in a high pop area for spiders!
I'm in Pethes system for now.. a anarcy... killing NPC for livving.. Now a days they have teamed up, and are harder to kill in some cases. But I have still not been killed by a real player... no one has even started shooting at me.. But the NPC... Well they can give me quite a punch... Last run for 20 mins ago, I was down at 40-50 % hull before i had to run with 3x cobras on my tail.. I made it with my cobra, and headed back to base... Did not want to go for a new round killing npc's..... the game is boring, and there are no real players to interact with... Boooooooooriiiiiiiiiiing.
If there onely was some real players there, so we could team up and do some npc killing to gether... game might have been more fun... And for the frigter boys out there... I'd do some escort for you if you need protection...
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I enjoyed your post. I always play in open even though I have not yet ventured into PvP, being the humble trader that I am. For me, the threat of piracy from a real player, wether they demand cargo or are just some 'Reaver' type psycho (or griefer as they seem to be called) adds something to the game that AI alone can not do. Maybe it's a hangover from my days of non stop Quake (well, Painkeep ) deathmatches but I do wonder sometimes why there is so much animosity in open play.
It is true that if my ol' Type 6 gets blown to bits with a cargo full of gold I am going to be a bit grumpy, but I'll just respawn and get truckin' That's why it's callled Elite: Dangerous isn't it
) deathmatches but I do wonder sometimes why there is so much animosity in open play. It is true that if my ol' Type 6 gets blown to bits with a cargo full of gold I am going to be a bit grumpy, but I'll just respawn and get truckin' That's why it's callled Elite: Dangerous isn't it
That rush is exactly why I don't do open believe it or not.
Let me tell you something - I did my time in nullsec back when I played the "big E". And the way my heart pounded when the adrenaline hit my system was just too bloody intense. I could never find a way to be calm, no matter how much of credit buffer I gave myself. Could never fight straight, could never shoot straight because I couldn't find a way to stay calm.
I know me limits lads, and that's why I stay in Solo. But I don't begrudge a man for wanting the extra thrill of open.
Let me tell you something - I did my time in nullsec back when I played the "big E". And the way my heart pounded when the adrenaline hit my system was just too bloody intense. I could never find a way to be calm, no matter how much of credit buffer I gave myself. Could never fight straight, could never shoot straight because I couldn't find a way to stay calm.
I know me limits lads, and that's why I stay in Solo. But I don't begrudge a man for wanting the extra thrill of open.
Way to go Cmdr. +1
Actually, ED allow anyone to play as he want when he want.
Which is a big step for MMO games cause this allow players to choose how they want to play and with whom they want to play.
So your question is in fact "why won't peoples play with me ?" and you answer is "force them to play with me".
Remind me a bit Kindergarden ...
Make a announce on forums, find peoples as you wish, make a group, join a group, join multiples groups.
The game allow it.
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