Explorations Data Sale Loss.

Just fake money, bud. Head back out and reap the benefits of the higher payouts!

Money really doesn't matter. I don't like the attitude. The traders always win. Who could buy FDL after 1.2? Only those with hundreds of millions. Where is justice? Explo guys again loose. Cancel the compensation for FDL owners or refund explorers. That's my point. I'll accept both.
 
Money really doesn't matter. I don't like the attitude. The traders always win. Who could buy FDL after 1.2? Only those with hundreds of millions. Where is justice? Explo guys again loose. Cancel the compensation for FDL owners or refund explorers. That's my point. I'll accept both.

No... it's tough. You sound like a spoiled child.
 
The point is to refund only the latest data selled since 1.2 went live. Couple of days only. It's really disspointing to loose a lot of cash only due to the fact that devs are changing the rules during the game.
Ok, but why stop at exploration data? Should FD "refund" everyone who repaired or refueled their ships just before the fuel and maintenance cost reductions? Or combat bonds?
 
Money really doesn't matter. I don't like the attitude. The traders always win. Who could buy FDL after 1.2? Only those with hundreds of millions. Where is justice? Explo guys again loose. Cancel the compensation for FDL owners or refund explorers. That's my point. I'll accept both.

Well, it doesn't matter. These are toys. This is like getting overly upset when the dog eats your Monopoly money.

IT'S A TOY, NOT A REAL JOB!
 
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No... it's tough. You sound like a spoiled child.
Rules must be the same
No retroaction. Or the fair one.

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Ok, but why stop at exploration data? Should FD "refund" everyone who repaired or refueled their ships just before the fuel and maintenance cost reductions? Or combat bonds?
It is not my buisness. Really. It's about fair play only. If you suddenly change smth, without any of notification be prepared. You refund ship expences? Very well - refund everything since 11th of March. Thats logical.
 
I sold around 20M Cr on Sunday and Monday. Sure I would have liked to get twice that, but it is no biggie, really. I already had a pile of money sitting there not being used since I had the Asp up to the spec I wanted, and unless they come up with a new even better exploring ship, there is no ship I want more than the Asp until I get to an Anaconda, if I ever do (though I will probably play with a Fer-de-Lance, just for nostalgic value). So I'm not getting all worked up about it.

Now I AM getting worked up about the missing bonuses from the first finder bonus bug. Poor timing on a buff/nerf is one thing. The game stealng credits from me because of a bug is quite another. So even though I don't NEED the missing bonus, I will carry on agitating about it.

Funny things, people.
 
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You lost nothing. You got a raise. You are, quite literally, complaining about getting a raise.

Boss: Johnson, you're getting a 10k raise this year.
Johnson: That's not fair! If you had given me this raise last year, I'd have an extra $10,000 by now!
Boss: ...
Johnson: !!
Boss: You're fired, Johnson.

Although funny, what OP means is this:

Boss: Johnson, we made a mistake and have under payed you for a year. You're getting a 10k raise this year.
Johnson: Great, thanks. But since you are correcting something that should have been there in the first place, shouldn't you compensate last year salary as well?
Boss: ...
Johnson: Boss..?
Boss: ...erm.
 
Although funny, what OP means is this:

Boss: Johnson, we made a mistake and have under payed you for a year. You're getting a 10k raise this year.
Johnson: Great, thanks. But since you are correcting something that should have been there in the first place, shouldn't you compensate last year salary as well?
Boss: ...
Johnson: Boss..?
Boss: ...erm.
No. It's a bitt different.
Boss: Jones. We made a mistake in sallary during the last year. Financial department will recieve compesation
Jones: And exploration department? Seems we have the same mistake.
Boss: Sorry guys, for you - higher salary since the next week.
 
If you want to make an argument that I can give some credit to, you could point out that while bounty hunters and traders have infinite opportunities to reap the benefits of a role rebalance, exploration data has an absolute limit. That limit is very, very high, but it's still there. I can always just go to the same RES and enjoy the new bounty values, but explorers can't re-explore for the new values.

For the sake of argument, let's say someone explored and sold data on 50% of the explorable items in the game. Now the rewards double. That player can now only gain 75% (Half the value of the previous 50% and the full value of the remaining 50%) of the new total exploration value of the game. It does technically put newer explorers at an advantage.
 
Yeah, i do feel a tad bit cheated

How do you know this wasn't a change brought on by feedback from 1.2 post launch? There's really no point in feeling cheated about something that you had no control over, and that was very likely a recent decision as opposed to something that may have been in the Beta last week. There's been a lot of talk from some corners of late about balancing the earning potential of various professions, it's very possible that this was done as a result of those requests. Don't let it get you down. Use that as motivation to increase your knowledge of the universe, and profit from it at the same time. :D

Go ye forth and discover, young Dragon.
 
No. It's a bitt different.
Boss: Jones. We made a mistake in sallary during the last year. Financial department will recieve compesation
Jones: And exploration department? Seems we have the same mistake.
Boss: Sorry guys, for you - higher salary since the next week.

What mistake? You were paid a certain amount for services rendered. Now the NPC market for data has changed, resulting in a pay raise for you.

There was no *mistake.* Prices for goods and services, as well as salaries, change. That's normal.

If you sell a banana today for $1, and tomorrow bananas cost $2, you don't get to charge all of your past customers an extra dollar for every banana they ever bought from you.
 
No. It's a bitt different.
Boss: Jones. We made a mistake in sallary during the last year. Financial department will recieve compesation
Jones: And exploration department? Seems we have the same mistake.
Boss: Sorry guys, for you - higher salary since the next week.

If it's anything like my work:

Jones: My pay line is missing quite a bit of money.
Finance Dept: What's a money? (starts dribbling).
 
It is not my buisness. Really. It's about fair play only. If you suddenly change smth, without any of notification be prepared. You refund ship expences? Very well - refund everything since 11th of March. Thats logical.
So let me get this straight - FD have just increased your earning potential as an explorer, taking nothing away from you in the process, and this is not good enough? You want them to give you the difference in what you sold a few days ago to what you would have made if you sold it today? If you bought a new car today and then next week the same car was reduced in price by a few hundred would you go back to the dealer and demand a refund saying it's not "fair" and they should pay you the difference?

And where are you getting this arbitrary cut off point of "since 1.2 dropped" from? What if this exploration data update had been implemented in a patch next week... would you still say it's not "fair" and demand a refund back dated to the last major update?

Be grateful man - FD have now made exploration that little bit more profitable which is a good thing.
 
What mistake? You were paid a certain amount for services rendered. Now the NPC market for data has changed, resulting in a pay raise for you.

There was no *mistake.* Prices for goods and services, as well as salaries, change. That's normal.

If you sell a banana today for $1, and tomorrow bananas cost $2, you don't get to charge all of your past customers an extra dollar for every banana they ever bought from you.
Why FD refund FDL bought yesterday? They didn't use it then? They didn't have money or what? Thats the main problem I see.
 
Well I'm angry only due to lack of info from devs beforhand. I could wait a bit longer but who saw it coming. Also it's strange they do return money for those who bought FDL. If they didn't it wouldn't be a problemm for me to potencially loose 21 mil.

You didn't lose anything
But according to your reasoning, i will complain to my employer tomorrow about getting a raise last moth.
I'll demand compensation for not getting paid enough for the last 3 years



Interdictions were supposedly reduced in fringe space. Haven't tried it myself yet, though. Stick to the scoop and boot.


It seems like it, 3 days of fringe hopping, and i didn't see a single NPC.
 
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As an explorer, I find it somehow strange that people now pay so much attention to how much money they make by exploration when trading is far more lucrative, and an average lengthy exploration trip could still easily bring in at least a couple of millions of credits already before this latest patch. Obviously this is just my subjective view on the matter - but just out of personal curiosity, I'd like to ask: what exactly does it matter if one gets X credits more or less this week than next week? Are you exploring mainly to get money?
 
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