General / Off-Topic Doctor Who: 50th Anniversary
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Hell yesThat was bloody fantastic!
This is a real spoiler...
I had no idea that Tom Baker would be in it, but instantly recognized the voice... My first Doctor
Me neither and me too. I think my heart did a brief flipflop the moment I heard it.
It struck me afterwards that he is the earliest one still alive. I remember watching the last of Jon Pertwee's when they first aired, and the regeneration, but Tom Baker is the one I really grew up with.
And that revisiting old faces line (paraphrased) adds something to the canon.
It struck me afterwards that he is the earliest one still alive. I remember watching the last of Jon Pertwee's when they first aired, and the regeneration, but Tom Baker is the one I really grew up with.
And that revisiting old faces line (paraphrased) adds something to the canon.
It was an excellent programme and well worth the wait.
One thing that sprung to mind for me was that Hurts Dr regenerated into Capaldi's Dr, which begs the question that now that Hurts Dr has changed his timeline could it be that Matt Smith's Dr will either stay on Gallifrey or die and not regenerate and a new line of Drs can be sneakily added to extend the line?
If you look at what Hurt was wearing (leather jacket etc.), I suspect he was regenerating into Chris Ecclestone's Doctor not Capaldi's
Fabulous episode and a great tribute!
Thinking about it, they could only really do an episode with Matt Smith, David Tenant and John Hurt. Here is why ...
William Hartnell -- No longer with us
Patrick Troughton -- No longer with us
Jon Pertwee -- No longer with us
Tom Baker -- Has aged
Peter Davidson -- Has aged
Colin Baker -- Has aged
Sylvester McCoy -- Has aged
Paul McGann -- Has aged
John Hurt -- As he is now
Christopher Eccleston -- Wants nothing to do with Stephen Moffat
David Tenant -- As he is now
Matt Smith -- As he is now
Peter Capaldi -- Not been introduced yet
William Hartnell -- No longer with us
Patrick Troughton -- No longer with us
Jon Pertwee -- No longer with us
Tom Baker -- Has aged
Peter Davidson -- Has aged
Colin Baker -- Has aged
Sylvester McCoy -- Has aged
Paul McGann -- Has aged
John Hurt -- As he is now
Christopher Eccleston -- Wants nothing to do with Stephen Moffat
David Tenant -- As he is now
Matt Smith -- As he is now
Peter Capaldi -- Not been introduced yet
If you look at what Hurt was wearing (leather jacket etc.), I suspect he was regenerating into Chris Ecclestone's Doctor not Capaldi's
Fabulous episode and a great tribute!
Spoilers!..
...hence Hurts comment about hoping his ears didn't stick out as much
I really enjoyed it, and I thought the dialogue fairly crackled along, but I did find one thing jarring...
The Gallifreyan mentioned that ALL 13 Doctors were there. Doesn't he mean the first 13 Doctors? Or does this mean they are pulling the plug after Capaldi?
Just watched it, I enjoyed it, it was pretty much like the R I Christmas lectures I used to watch until they stopped broadcasting them a couple of years ago.
They're available to watch on the RI website
If you look at what Hurt was wearing (leather jacket etc.), I suspect he was regenerating into Chris Ecclestone's Doctor not Capaldi's
Fabulous episode and a great tribute!
He is regenerating into Christopher Ecclestone as he mentions the ears not standing out so much and one of the first things CE says is about the ears in Jackie's flat. Also in the Night of the Doctor you see Paul McGann regenerating into a very young John Hurt
Incredible!
Dunno about you guys...
...but I'm going full-on nerd tonight!
Good call with the fez.
If you look at what Hurt was wearing (leather jacket etc.), I suspect he was regenerating into Chris Ecclestone's Doctor not Capaldi's
Fabulous episode and a great tribute!
I'm not so sure, if you slow down the regeneration scene you can see they are beginning to superimpose a new face onto John Hurt and it doesn't look like Ecclestone.
In canon, Time Lords only have 12 regenerations (13 incarnations). However, also in canon, the High Council of Gallifrey can award a new full set of regenerations to a Time Lord, (ref. The Master's reward for helping The Doctor during the Game of Rassilion in The Five Doctors). But we'd need Gallifrey for that to work - which before yesterday, we didn't have.
Plot device for Moffat - The Doctor finds Gallifrey and frees it from it's temporal stasis and as a reward...
Until Gallifrey was freed again, we couldn't have any incarnations of the Doctor after his 13th, so only the first 13 could turn up for it's salvation in the time war (it's be a paradox too far even for Doctor Who to have anything later).
Plot device for Moffat - The Doctor finds Gallifrey and frees it from it's temporal stasis and as a reward...
Until Gallifrey was freed again, we couldn't have any incarnations of the Doctor after his 13th, so only the first 13 could turn up for it's salvation in the time war (it's be a paradox too far even for Doctor Who to have anything later).
Watching this right now
Ahh!... Thanks for the explanation. I guess Bill Gates worked for Dr Who
"12 regenerations are enough for anyone."
From last night, we know that the Doctors preceding Matt Smith's don't know that they've saved Gallifrey - they think it's destroyed. If Hurt is regenerating into Capaldi, Capaldi wouldn't know he'd saved Gallifrey either (as he'd pre-date Matt). Which would put an almighty kink in any plan to find Gallifrey (which we've been set up for from the end of last night). Coupled with Frank's observation about the ears, it reinforces the idea of a Hurt-Ecclestone regeneration.
Peter Davidson's 5ish Doctors reboot is worth a watch on iPlayer http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b03lv3mj/The_Five(ish)_Doctors_Reboot/
Without ruining any of the plot, what we already know about John Hurt's Doctor is that he came after Paul McGann. Although there's been no confirmation about who would succeed John Hurt's Doctor, there's a good chance of it being Eccleston, increased due to the whole '12 regenerations' rule.
In any case, Capaldi succeeds Smith. We know this, and I'm surprised there's so much debate over it.
In any case, Capaldi succeeds Smith. We know this, and I'm surprised there's so much debate over it.
Thanks! I enjoyed that one better than the actual episode. The new series of Doctor Who has a classic case of spectacle creep, which makes me long for the days of William Hartnell, where he only saved the Earth a three or four times in his whole tenure.