New PC Build for Elite. Budget £700.What would you change?

I would change just one thing...

Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£41.00 @ Amazon UK)

Regardless of what people say I think if you add up the power required you will be at the max very quickly. TBH I would say look for a 700W -750W just in case you add a DVD/BR RW, internal drives, SSD and normal HD's.

I know my processor uses 125W and I have 4 HD's plus burner for my Blu-rays. I had a 550W PSU and it lasted 4 weeks.
They say that it will run your system, but do you really want to take a change?

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OK seriously, can you all just WATCH THIS. PLEASE.

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Most common false assumption with PSUs. I did it myself for long enough lol.

Welcome back btw.
Haha, I never left :D My forum contributions have lessened somewhat after ED's hardware/driver compatibility improved after Gamma/Release - the support sub is relatively spartan nowadays :)
 
I would change just one thing...

Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£41.00 @ Amazon UK)

Regardless of what people say I think if you add up the power required you will be at the max very quickly. TBH I would say look for a 700W -750W just in case you add a DVD/BR RW, internal drives, SSD and normal HD's.

I know my processor uses 125W and I have 4 HD's plus burner for my Blu-rays. I had a 550W PSU and it lasted 4 weeks.
They say that it will run your system, but do you really want to take a change?
+rep by the way.
 
Yes I will do, but I was actually looking at his budget and the 750W which I got actually cost less than the one he is going to buy.

I do understand that his rig is fine as I know shop owners that test motherboards and rigs like this on 300W supplies, but if, like me, you run a few more things other than just 1 hd and a dvd player more power is needed. I will always say its better to be safe then sorry, why pay out for something which may not be good enough in 6 months time when you can get a better one a little cheaper and it covers you for your next upgrade.

They can give me abuse, but unless he has a masters in mind control I will always have my own free opinion.
 
well i reckon for that spec the psu he has chosen should work fine, i however have got a 93% efficient 1000w psu, but only because I run sli (which i could get away with a 750w) but might want to upgrade to a higher graphics card/cards at some point ;)
I always feels its better to get a little more power than you need, so expansion is cheaper :)
 
Yes I will do, but I was actually looking at his budget and the 750W which I got actually cost less than the one he is going to buy.

I do understand that his rig is fine as I know shop owners that test motherboards and rigs like this on 300W supplies, but if, like me, you run a few more things other than just 1 hd and a dvd player more power is needed. I will always say its better to be safe then sorry, why pay out for something which may not be good enough in 6 months time when you can get a better one a little cheaper and it covers you for your next upgrade.

They can give me abuse, but unless he has a masters in mind control I will always have my own free opinion.

IT doesn't matter that it cost less --- are you paying attention to the op's budget?!!?!?!?

:)

(I'm kidding... read above for context, believe me, nothing you say is going to matter ... to some posters, the 400 watt power supply is far superior to anything, at any price-- even if it's less $$$.. watch)
 
I would change just one thing...

Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£41.00 @ Amazon UK)

Regardless of what people say I think if you add up the power required you will be at the max very quickly. TBH I would say look for a 700W -750W just in case you add a DVD/BR RW, internal drives, SSD and normal HD's.

I know my processor uses 125W and I have 4 HD's plus burner for my Blu-rays. I had a 550W PSU and it lasted 4 weeks.
They say that it will run your system, but do you really want to take a change?
No need, check my earlier post. Discounting a faulty PSU, a high quality 450W is more than enough for the OP's needs. Just don't buy cheap no-name trash.

I have a Phenom II X3, SLI'd 570s, 3x SSHDs (hybrids) & lots of cooling, all happily running on a Coolermaster 700W, with plenty wattage to spare.

Simply check here to see what you use (or run a wall power meter): http://www.extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp
 
Look don't get me wrong - if upgrading was an issue then I'd probably say sure go with a bigger PSU.

Thing is though, he would also need a new mobo for SLI or Crossfire first. New mobo and PSU *and* graphics? Wait, that's a new PC. :p
 
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OK seriously, can you all just WATCH THIS. PLEASE.

Are you SERIOUS!!!!!

OK you are correct when it comes to power draw and some other things, but this is where you are missing everyones point. Try adding up the power required by all of the items in your system. 125W for CPU, then add for Grafics card, SSD/HD's DVD/Blu Ray lights and bells. Some how you pass the 200W mark. All we are saying befor you throw a great mardy is, what if you need more power to run this, or what if you want to upgrade later you could save money by saving this amout or paying this much more.

If you do not wish to listen and need a Video to make a pointless point which everybody agrees with you then you clearly do not understand why everybody who has pointed out the issue with a small power supply.

As I found out, being an electrician and watching my power supply blow up as it was too small (550W), NOT adding up the amount of watts needed to run each and every component on your new computer system could cost you even more money. My system tops out at 570 Watts. Now if you are totally stupid, which I hope you are not, you would recommend that I use a 700W or a 750W power supply.

Simple when you think about it.

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I have a Phenom II X3, SLI'd 570s, 3x SSHDs (hybrids) & lots of cooling, all happily running on a Coolermaster 700W, with plenty wattage to spare.

Why get a big PSU if you didnt need to? get peoples points about PSU's?
 
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Are you SERIOUS!!!!!

OK you are correct when it comes to power draw and some other things, but this is where you are missing everyones point. Try adding up the power required by all of the items in your system. 125W for CPU, then add for Grafics card, SSD/HD's DVD/Blu Ray lights and bells. Some how you pass the 200W mark. All we are saying befor you throw a great mardy is, what if you need more power to run this, or what if you want to upgrade later you could save money by saving this amout or paying this much more.

The point I'm trying to make is that basically, unless the OP decides to go SLI or Crossfire, his 430W PSU will be good enough for just about any graphics card you can imagine over the next few years anyway.

An extreme high-end GPU only draws 300W max. Add 100W for the CPU and 20W for the rest and you're still below 430W.

Cutting it close though right? Thing is I already know that this particular PSU is capable of drawing 500W+.

This "430W" Corsair topped out at 549W here - http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Corsair-CX430-Power-Supply-Review/1200/8

So that means, in a nutshell - that with *the most powerful CPU and single GPU combination available, his PSU will still be good enough.* When I said earlier that it would run a Titan X I wasn't lying (note I'm not advising this).

As I found out, being an electrician and watching my power supply blow up as it was too small (550W), adding up the amount of watts needed to run each and every component on your new computer system could cost you even more money. My system tops out at 570 Watts. Now if you are totally stupid, which I hope you are not, you would recommend that I use a 700W or a 750W power supply.

Simple when you think about it.

I wouldn't buy a 550W if my system needed 570 Watts in the first place. The OP's system cannot possibly get near 300W, let alone 430W.

This is the point. Yes in your case you would go with a 750W supply. In this case 430W is more than enough.

You draw 570, you buy 750. His draws 250, he buys a 430. He has the same Wattage headroom as you, more as a percentage.
 
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Look don't get me wrong - if upgrading was an issue then I'd probably say sure go with a bigger PSU.

Thing is though, he would also need a new mobo for SLI or Crossfire first. New mobo and PSU *and* graphics? Wait, that's a new PC. :p

What is it with everybody? If he is on a budget he will be looking for some items to last him more than 6 months. If he gets a bigger PSU now in 18 months time when he upgrades he will not have to pay out again, GET THE Point!

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The point I'm trying to make is that basically, unless the OP decides to go SLI or Crossfire, his 430W PSU will be good enough for just about any graphics card you can imagine over the next few years anyway.

An extreme high-end GPU only draws 300W max. Add 100W for the CPU and 20W for the rest and you're still below 430W.

Cutting it close though right? Thing is I already know that this particular PSU is capable of drawing 500W+.

550W here - http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Corsair-CX430-Power-Supply-Review/1200/8

So that means, in a nutshell - that with *the most powerful CPU and single GPU combination available, his PSU will still be good enough.*



I wouldn't buy a 550W if my system needed 570 Watts in the first place. The OP's system cannot possibly get near 300W, let alone 430W.

Hay the people in here are right about you. Just remember never to apply for a job as an electrician, I wouldn't want you wiring up any plugs.

PS when quoting somebody make sure its quoted correctly
 
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Hay the people in here are right about you. Just remember never to apply for a job as an electrician, I wouldn't want you wiring up any plugs.

PS when quoting somebody make sure its quoted correctly

Said the "electrician" who blew up his power supply because he couldn't even count up Watts properly. :rolleyes:

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What is it with everybody? If he is on a budget he will be looking for some items to last him more than 6 months. If he gets a bigger PSU now in 18 months time when he upgrades he will not have to pay out again, GET THE Point!

Haha, do you buy a train ticket to Glasgow when going from London to Birmingham "just incase" too? Christ.
 
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Why get a big PSU if you didnt need to? get peoples points about PSU's?
Because it cost me £37, bargain haha! PC only draws around 570W; room to spare is a bonus for future upgrades.

in my first reply here you'll also see I recommended a bigger PSU & going SLI as well, better value for money :)
 
Said the guy who blew up his power supply because he couldn't even count up Watts properly. :rolleyes:

Hay at least I am able to listen to other peoples opinions without giving them abuse for thinking a 450 Watt power supply isn't big enough. I made a mistake on my own machine due to the fact that I had only accounted for 1 SSD and 1 HD. I am human after all, but to sit there and shout out everybody when the OP asks for advice is stupid.

If the OP to get sound advice from a number of view then allow it instead of screaming from the roof tops telling everybody they are all wrong and you are the only person which believes he is right.

Nobody wants him to pay out for something he does not need. If he SAVES money on a gold award power supply and its a 700 Watt power supply then isn't that worth it? The computer will only draw what it needs and no more, but at least he not going to pay out again when he upgrades once again.

The more you scream the less people will respect you. I personally think your an idiot, but hay plenty of people think that about me and I can give sound advice lol.

You have you personal point just like the rest of us. As we do not know what he has running and everything else the 430 Watt supply may be OK, but if its under power will you pay out for his new power supply when it goes BANG!
 
Because it cost me £37, bargain haha! PC only draws around 570W; room to spare is a bonus for future upgrades.

in my first reply here you'll also see I recommended a bigger PSU & going SLI as well, better value for money :)

Yep, I paid £35 for my Gold rated 750 PSU. I originally worked out I only needed a 450 due to not running the other HDs and DVD/Blu-Rays. It was nice and running lovely at 446 Watts, but then I connected the rest of my stuff and the power supply went pop lol lol. I nearly pooped lol lol. :) Anyway none of my other 400 Specially Build PCs have failed and thats because I put power supplies in them which are bigger then required, due to the fact that people tend to upgrade everything except their power supplies.
 
I am right, this is what you're struggling to comprehend while it's crystal clear to everybody else.

Yes yes, you're right. Feel better?

I'm done with this silly thread... leading horses to water... teaching pigs to whistle etc.

Have a nice day being right. :)

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I gotta take a page from your book and stop responding to trolls. This kid just wants to pick a fight. I can't even figure out what he's trying to pick. Maybe he's trying to start an argument on in-game ships again :)

Some people just can't let go of a small point to see the big one, and I'm all done trying to show him something he doesn't want to see. :)
 
Hay at least I am able to listen to other peoples opinions without giving them abuse for thinking a 450 Watt power supply isn't big enough. I made a mistake on my own machine due to the fact that I had only accounted for 1 SSD and 1 HD. I am human after all, but to sit there and shout out everybody when the OP asks for advice is stupid.

I don't see where I'm giving people abuse? If you think I am then please report it to the mods.

If the OP to get sound advice from a number of view then allow it instead of screaming from the roof tops telling everybody they are all wrong and you are the only person which believes he is right.

I challenge anyone to prove me wrong by simply showing me the power draw of a system of this performance level. Who accepts the challenge? It is very easy for me to do this because I know for a fact that it is impossible. Go get your supposed "hardware tech forum experts" to prove me wrong. I welcome all challenges! Amazing how confident you can be with the laws of physics on your side (did you see what i did there?).

Nobody wants him to pay out for something he does not need. If he SAVES money on a gold award power supply and its a 700 Watt power supply then isn't that worth it? The computer will only draw what it needs and no more, but at least he not going to pay out again when he upgrades once again.

Of course it's worth doing that but generally speaking you don't find those kind of deals.

The more you scream the less people will respect you. I personally think your an idiot, but hay plenty of people think that about me and I can give sound advice lol.

Well I'm not at all surprised to find that people think you are an idiot. As for you giving sound advice, I hope this was in a job before you became an electrician.

You have you personal point just like the rest of us. As we do not know what he has running and everything else the 430 Watt supply may be OK, but if its under power will you pay out for his new power supply when it goes BANG!

I will take your bet yes. I will pay for his PSU if it goes BANG! (I have tons of them in stock anyway). The rest of you will pay me the difference between this PSU and your 750W PSUs when it doesn't. Deal?

Are any of you actually willing to put your money where your mouths are?
 
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Some people just can't let go of a small point to see the big one, and I'm all done trying to show him something he doesn't want to see. :)

What matters to me is the truth, and having people stopping repeating this same garbage tech "advice" seen in forums throughout the web.

"Need 32GB of RAM", "Need a 750W PSU" etc etc. It all adds up to a gigantic waste of cash for zero benefit. The blind leading the blind.
 
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Why are you being so silly? Nobody cares about anything you say. We have all had enough of your TROLLing posts just to wind everybody up. If you are not arguing about being right about everything, your telling everybody they are wrong about being right. The best thing for everybody and the OP is for you to stop posting. Please do not think I am being nasty about this but if GOD told him to use a 700 Watt PSU we can all see you standing there telling GOD he knows nothing about PSU's and how much power the OP needs.

When somebody says " you are right" take it as a HINT that you are correct. BUT when somebody says " but I think it would be best to use something better " Do not jump down their throats for making a point. You may want to run the risk of under powering your system, and you may also have stupid amounts of money to spend, but people on here may have years of experiance when it comes to power supplies, computers and other stuff related to electricity which you may not know. Do not dismiss something just because you have seen it on the net so it has to be 1,000,000% true. Remember people on the net say Elvis is still alive when we all know he's actually dead.
 
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