I have to say the thread had me chuckling. Since I play solo I do not sweat it. To poor to play open, lmao. I finally got my Asp but still only c rated..
Bullet
Bullet
Victims of Piracy Support Group
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What happened to the days when an MMO wasn't an MMO unless you could kill one another on sight everywhere. Instead we have devolved into making carefree playgrounds where you follow a carefully crafted pve railroad and need to visit special area's to find some PvP. They made them boring. Sucking all the excitement from the threat of potential attack everywhere right out of the games...Where did it go wrong?
Thankfully Elite is different. It's like MMO's used to be in the good old days. The threat is back, and with it the joy of playing is back. It's wonderful. Still they made a separate carefree 'solo mode' for those individuals who prefer it. But of course to some people that is not enough, they want more: they want to play in the 'dangerous' open mode without the danger....It's just like people insisting on playing some games on nightmare difficulty setting then complaining on the internet that it's too hard and should be made easier...Sigh
Ps. In the three months that I've played the game I've probably seen well over a thousand other players ingame. I got interdicted and attacked by another player exactly once. Once...Obviously its not as if every other player is a megalomanic serialkiller out there to get you.
Thankfully Elite is different. It's like MMO's used to be in the good old days. The threat is back, and with it the joy of playing is back. It's wonderful. Still they made a separate carefree 'solo mode' for those individuals who prefer it. But of course to some people that is not enough, they want more: they want to play in the 'dangerous' open mode without the danger....It's just like people insisting on playing some games on nightmare difficulty setting then complaining on the internet that it's too hard and should be made easier...Sigh
Ps. In the three months that I've played the game I've probably seen well over a thousand other players ingame. I got interdicted and attacked by another player exactly once. Once...Obviously its not as if every other player is a megalomanic serialkiller out there to get you.
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Are you replying to my OP or someone else in this thread because at no point did I say I don't want the danger. At no point did I say I want it easier ..I said the exact opposite. I'm fitting out a decent ship with decent weapons and going to kill every pirate I can get my hands on. How the hell is that wanting it easier.
The experience woke me up, put a fire in my belly and sent me on a new mission and it absolutely is not the safe option. The reality is I didn't even intend it to be a complaint of any sort , just a story, a description and then a resolution. Maybe I went a little over the top with describing how I felt AT THE TIME but that's all it was ..a description.
I am getting so sick of this crappy argument on both sides. I'm pretty sure if I posted a thread about Christmas crackers the same argument would ensue.
I couldn't give a rats if you play in open or solo, I couldn't give rats what you think is fair and who you think you should be allowed to kill and how you think your victims should react - DONT CARE. go hijack someone else's post or better still take your arguments to the threads that are actually set up for your clap trap.
It is what it is. I like it how it is and I am going to like it even more how I am going to make it.
If you're a pirate keep looking over your shoulder 'cause I'm coming.
I do not mind pirates trying to kill me, with the emphasis on TRYING. I like to do things to pirates that I used to do to them on EVE Online, bait and kill. What might look like a lonely T7/T9 or an ASP might just have friends waiting to spring the trap in Vultures, FDL's and Pythons. In fact I was assisting a fellow alliance member in this very operation in my Vulture, poor pirate loser never stood a chance.....
+ 1, exactly. I am OK to play in Mobius, at some point the psychos will only have each other to kill in Open.
That story sounds too familiar to be a coincident... but even if it was, the point remains the same, I guess... however, if that happened a few days ago, it was probably me, who pirated you
So let me tell you something about your favorite pirate's point of view:
I interdicted you, and the first thing I saw, was you boosting away (=attempting to flee). I though about opening fire right away, but made my demands anyway and give you a bit of time to react to them, because I didn't want to be mistaken for a psychopath. What you probably forget to tell us, is that I asked you to stop your engines before anything else, so when I didn't see your reverse thrusters firing, I decided it was time to attack. It was already too late, though, I couldn't take your engines out, before you managed to jump. I just got lucky to being able to pull you out again, but let's talk about what we both can learn from the event:
What I learned: If the interdictee boosts and doesn't stop his ship after a few seconds, don't waste your time letting him think about your demands... shoot! Repeat your demands, _after_ his engines are taken out.
What you could have learned: If you are interdicted and your interdictor demands you to cut your engines... do it. Don't go to your panels, don't open the chat window... just stop your ship to show the pirate you are willing to cooperate. This takes the fuss out of the situation. After that is done, you have time to chat. If you had stopped your ship and gave me time to scan you, guess what would have happened... after realizing you weren't carrying anything of value, I would have let you leave WITH your cargo and without scratching your ship's paint
Easier solution for the trader: play Solo or Mobius. There, problem solved.
Here's a response that is totally equivalent to your attitude, so I can better deminstrate why I don't endorse it:
"If you don't like [traders/pirates], then go play [Eve/Solo mode]"
Both versions of the above statement are bad.
Fwiw, I will still be playing open. I will also still prefer to run/blow up my ship than give you a single ton of cargo. Of course, if I can kill you instead, I will.
Why are those statements bad?
Piracy and illegality is part of Elite and always has been. Corporate States were safe, Anarchies were dangerous, and there were all the points in between. That was 30 years ago. Now, given the magic of the modern internet thing that was invented, we can enjoy the game with other players, thousands of other players. This means that we're no longer facing ultimately predictable and "dry" AI but we never know what we're going to be facing up against. But the piracy and illegality remain a core part of Elite now and so they should; and as has been pointed out solo mode is there for more sensitive souls.
I can't understand how anyone is complaining about this. What exactly is the issue here?
OP (and anyone else who doesn't like pirates), I suggest you kit out a Sidewinder with cargo scanner, FSD interdictor and a couple of gimballed burst lasers, and spend a couple of days pirating (via the 'blow the hatch off' method) Cobras and smaller ships.
This will give you an excellent insight into how to make a pirate's life harder, once you resume your crusade.
Have a lot of fun, Commanders!
This will give you an excellent insight into how to make a pirate's life harder, once you resume your crusade.
Have a lot of fun, Commanders!
Majinvash
Banned
So you don't believe me? Ah well.
I'll give you a challenge. Try flying a T9 filled with gold to and from Leesti. Tell me how you hold up. I'll check in on this thread later.
Fly safe
Hi, we do this all the time.
However we know its dangerous, we do it because we know people will attack AND.......... it has heavy escort..
Guess what, we have only lost the ship once.... guess how many times people have tried?
Thats the part you are missing, so scared and crying about PVP, you miss the whole aspect of what Elite is about.
IF you are getting attacked, work out a way to win.
I am a member of The Code, we have groups after us. They come off worse because not only are we good pilots, with big boy ships setup to deal with PVP but we also work together.
The working together part is FAR more important that having your 1337 A Rated FDL,Conda of doom. This is what many players lack and certainly what the over opinionated PVE community fail to use. ( Farming NPC's in a wing is so easy its untrue )
You attack us, you will find ( instancing allowing ) 2 or 3 wings dropping in on you. This is not by luck, this is by understanding how the game works and playing the game.
Now right now, I am sure you are whining about how that is unfair and how traders cannot compete wa wa wa... my question to you is.. WHY??
What have we got you haven't?
Those statements are bad because they both show one player dictating to another how to play and telling them to leave unless they comply.
As for why I am posting this, have a proper read of the thread and find the person who was complaining that if I choose to take my chances (running if I can/fighting if I must) as a trader and maybe die instead of killing engines and dropping cargo as soon as I get interdicted, I am being a %&#% for breaking immersion for the pirate, presumably because a "real" trader would rather take a small loss than try to run...
Seriously, who doesn't turn around to to see who they are facing? Why would anyone want to show their rear end to the pirate, giving them a chance to get the drop on you?
If you don't do this, you're doing it wrong and it probably explains why some people are dying so quickly.
*cough* Everquest *cough*
The grandfather of PvP MMOs - where you couldn't just kill another person on sight but it had to be within regulated rules.
Good job...
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People (generally) aren't complaining about piracy as a "thing". It's a good and useful part of the game.
What they are complaining about is that it's rampant across the ENTIRE game especially in systems and faction-controlled areas that should by rights be "safe" from piracy.
It's far too easy to be a pirate in Elite. It's like the "Beginner" mode at the moment...
Yes, I absolutely would rather lose my insured ship (note that this is not the same thing as dying - my escape pod works nicely) than give you a single tonne of my cargo!
I honestly don't see how that is anything other than immersion enhancing. I have a family to feed (and protect from the peculiarly frequent earthquakes!) back on Reorte - I spend my time and energy trading in deep space to give them the life they deserve, not to give presents to lazy freeloaders with all the moral fibre of a turnip. Yes, I'm a trader, but a heavily armed one - all you're getting courtesy of me is a repair bill, or (just as likely) an insurance excess to pay...
Besides, if I give you my cargo, how am I going to afford the A-Rated thrusters that I'll need for escaping the gravity well of your mum?
Besides, if I give you my cargo, how am I going to afford the A-Rated thrusters that I'll need for escaping the gravity well of your mum?
Oh no he didn't....!!
Oh no he didn't....!!
OH yes he did! ..LOL.
Piracy is RAMPANT! RAMPANT!
I mean, just the other day, I saw another player in game! He didn't interdict me, but he looked shifty!
And I've heard you can earn THOUSANDS of credits in a mere period of days in the piracy profession, thousands of credits! Unbelievable, truly something needs to be done.
My post was directed at the people posting on the previous pages about how player piracy/killing should be abolished. Not at you.
Playing a pirate is the most fun thing for me in this game. I attack CMDRs mostly and I use a Viper. I scare off ASPs and even some Conda's. This, I found very strange.
I always attack without warning and keep firing until the shields go down. Pirates work on a tight schedule >). After that I ask for a drop, up to 4 tons. 4 tons should hurt noone's budget. If the target keeps running I start to blast away the hull. You can kill most traders in three interdictons. Lately I started to use limpets. I skip the comms and try those instead. Unfortunately they don't work well against CMDRs. They attach, but complete syphon only 20% of the time.
They work well against NPCs. They complete syphon 90% of the time. Whenever I do some bounty hunting, I always deploy limpets. Even the Eagles drop a few tons. Stuff like coffee, tea or animal meat that goes over 1k/ton. Sometimes I get gold, combat weapons, stabilizers etc. But back to CMDR pirating.
It is fun and it puts the dangerous part to Elite : Dangerous. A 5 years old can evade or shoot down the brain dead AI. No danger whatsoever and very boring.
Tell me the game is boring when you need to run life and death gauntlet to nearest station. When you need to look for real wingmen to escort you through pirate infested areas. The terror when you try to plot an evasive course to protect your precious cargo and finally the feeling of achievement when you dock and sell the stuff. You are missing all this if you play solo or closed group. Or if you elminiate human pirating as a option.
I always attack without warning and keep firing until the shields go down. Pirates work on a tight schedule >). After that I ask for a drop, up to 4 tons. 4 tons should hurt noone's budget. If the target keeps running I start to blast away the hull. You can kill most traders in three interdictons. Lately I started to use limpets. I skip the comms and try those instead. Unfortunately they don't work well against CMDRs. They attach, but complete syphon only 20% of the time.
They work well against NPCs. They complete syphon 90% of the time. Whenever I do some bounty hunting, I always deploy limpets. Even the Eagles drop a few tons. Stuff like coffee, tea or animal meat that goes over 1k/ton. Sometimes I get gold, combat weapons, stabilizers etc. But back to CMDR pirating.
It is fun and it puts the dangerous part to Elite : Dangerous. A 5 years old can evade or shoot down the brain dead AI. No danger whatsoever and very boring.
Tell me the game is boring when you need to run life and death gauntlet to nearest station. When you need to look for real wingmen to escort you through pirate infested areas. The terror when you try to plot an evasive course to protect your precious cargo and finally the feeling of achievement when you dock and sell the stuff. You are missing all this if you play solo or closed group. Or if you elminiate human pirating as a option.
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