New Backer - Can't help but feel a little shortchanged
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Hello WhoaTony.
The answer to your question is quite simple....
Elite Dangerous will be a better quality game than Star Citizen. Like most things in life, the more you pay for something, the better quality you get.
I hope that helps. Regards, Oddball.
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That's a little controversial.
I think they're both going to be very high quality, in their own right. Having backed both, I hope they are both awesome games, but different enough to appeal to each audience.Man, you guys are killing me here. I had already settled on the fact that 80 quid would be excessive. That's almost $150 for me in Aus. Shame I got into this thing today, had I had the time to go over all the newsletters and updates throughout development, I might be more confident in deciding to go all out.
Still, thanks for convincing me that what I pledged already will be money well spent. I really do need to save for a HOTAS guys
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Still, thanks for convincing me that what I pledged already will be money well spent. I really do need to save for a HOTAS guys
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Yeah, I can't say I agree with you there when there's no game to go on for either. And for the record, I spent around $150 for Star Citizen as well, but that was over the course of a year, I might have done the same for this had I pledged earlier. Oh well.
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Sadly, I've not always found that to be the case... However, by your logic the fact that Star Citizen's backers have donated more money to the project than Elite's backers, means that Star Citizen's backers will get a better quality game for their monies. But your logic is wrong. Fingers crossed, both games will be great.
Incorrect. Please read the original post. The poster wanted to know the difference between the two games and why ED is more expensive than SC. I gave a reason, you didn't. If both games are just as good as each other, they would cost the same.
Where did that come from?!
actually she agrees
so shall we talk about money then?
she raised it to 6000
I think you've inspired me to start an indie project of my own. Like totally the greatest game ever made, but it's gonna be very exclusive and premium. A game that simulates everything you can imagine can be yours if you pledge $100,000,000,000 minimum. Release date: tba
Interested?
You made an unqualified judgement call, and backed it up with an illogical statement. Much as I love you, that was an unhelpful post.
Not really. It is not directed at you, more towards the original poster. He's an original SC backer who has come here to spoil things and create conflict. They've been here before and they'll be here again.
Ah so you decided to call him out as a troll?!
Well that explains ypur comments then on this subject :smilie:
Ah thanks for the responses guys, it's starting to make a little more sense.
Ok, so my mind is a little more at ease about not immediately paying for the expansions. I guess they are in fact old fashioned 'expansions' and not the light content 'DLC' that the term implies.
It kinda seems like these expansions will not really involve the space-sim aspects of gameplay much, my only concern is that too much of the content that we can do in space will be pushed to being only available from restricted areas (planets, stations). In other words, I still want to be able to fully enjoy the 'space' aspect of the game without suddenly feeling like I'm missing out on key elements.
I guess we'll see... now that I've pledged, I want this game to be as good as possible along with everyone else
Yeah, I really can't justify it to myself at the moment. I'm holding out for a few new PC related upgrades first (such as a decent HOTAS).
Unfortunately I'm not a part of the seemingly majority here with a decent disposable income. I do however already like this community more than what SC's been reduced to.
Dude, dont kid yourself all us £80 (actually im at 85 now, wanted a physical copy too) have money to spare, that cash was my fuel money for getting to work, im walking to work this month, it's either worth it you or it isn't.
I think you're wrong in the short term, but may well be found to be correct in the long term Oddball.
To the OP: Star Citizen will be a quality game, I have no doubt. But as its built on the Cry Engine its scope for expansion may be limited. They can add more ships and more missions. They can add another hand created star system for $50,000. But as far as I know Cry Engine cannot ever compete with Elite's Cobra engine in terms or realistic celestial mechanics, interaction on full scale planetary surfaces, of just the sheer scale Cobra offers. Its game engine may always hold back its scope for broadening into different aspects, and its scale will always be infinitesimal compared to Cobra. I think Cry-tech will obviously expand with time but how much is that going to cost CIG to license new features? What license have they bought? All these will determine the direction CIG take.
Elite has the scope to go on expanding its content, both micro content and macro content, and in turn that will add to its longevity. Frontier haven't licensed an engine from another company, they built their own and are are using their own technology. And that engine was built with massive scale and scope in mind.
So I disagree SC will be the lesser game initially, but I agree that as time goes by Elite could well leave SC behind and make it look like the lesser quality game when future gamers look back at both. Its also why I think backing Elite Dangerous is the better long term investment as I think it'll be around longer.
Hope this doesn't come across as an "Elitist" post, its just my opinion based on what I've learned about both games' development and the approach both designers are coming from. But time will be the judge.
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I have understood these DLC's as updates that will be added for free at a later date??
Brian
Only if you've backed at the £80 level. If you're below that level then you'll have to pay for expansions!
Hear hear! I also think that the quality of Elites backers adds something that SC will lack, maturity.
Brian
+1
it's like an antwar
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really? you got that from the OP?
I have to say I didnt one bit, and found the whole thread to be fair and non confrontational until this point! :/
As for which will be the better game.... i dont really look at it that way. With so slim pickings on the 3D space game front lately, I think the market is more than big enough for both of them, hence why both of them shall have a place of pride in my games collection
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Well, I thought the same at first, but after reading his answers, he explained rather valid concerns from his POV, so please let's not go there. Also attacking people isn't what we do in forum....unless trolling goes on for too long
I backed at the £85 level after really considering what I thought was the right amount. I don't really think it's "worth it" to me in terms of the relative value of what I'm getting.. most of that is loaded in to just getting the game. I thought about just backing for about the value of a full price game, on the basis that it would support development and I would get the things I want.
But in the end I thought this is David Braben and co. making the next Elite. I've been waiting for since Frontier, and that if it's done well it will have a lot more value than most games - and I'm the sort who thinks most games that I spend more than a night or so playing are good value. So to me, while the rewards will be nice, it was more an expression of support for the game than a judgement purely based on the value of what I get.
On the note of SC, I backed that too and hope it will be amazing too. Although for a little less as I'm less invested in it than Elite, and I'm not interested in buying ships for real money.
But in the end I thought this is David Braben and co. making the next Elite. I've been waiting for since Frontier, and that if it's done well it will have a lot more value than most games - and I'm the sort who thinks most games that I spend more than a night or so playing are good value. So to me, while the rewards will be nice, it was more an expression of support for the game than a judgement purely based on the value of what I get.
On the note of SC, I backed that too and hope it will be amazing too. Although for a little less as I'm less invested in it than Elite, and I'm not interested in buying ships for real money.