Rammers at George Lucas Station

Well who decides here was it an accident, a suicide attempt or did you try to kill the guy?
FD assumes now that anyone over the speed limit is a potential killer and if he hits someone, he will be a criminal. And this is a problem.
If the patch goes live just like that, every time you hit someone with significant speed, you will be a criminal and the station will kill you.

And no fire zone means just that - no fire. Ramming is allowed and should be allowed. If you kill someone, they can charge you for that, if you do damage to the hull - you get a fine. If there is no damage done to the ship, nothing happens. Suicide attemps will not count at all.

Yes, it's a problem. And its a problem caused by "players" like you. It's unfortunate that FD chose this solution when the obviously better one would be to ban you and your friend from playing in open.
 
There is a way, dodging a collision is way easier than actually hit someone at full speed. Try it.
Sure, if you fly blind, focus on your landing pad and you dont care about avoiding the guys around you, there is no way to help you. In my vulture i can dodge most collisions. You have enough space to dodge in all directions, use it.
And mostly you dont even have to dodge, your huge shield and shield booster is there for a reason - to protect you. Not only from weapons. And if you throw away your shield for max profit while trading, thats your risk.
So basically, every time someone comes anywhere near you when docking at a busy station you're supposed to just boost away like a frightened deer even though nine times out of ten that person is simply someone else trying to get in and dock? Or are you possessed of some magical way of knowing the intentions of that blip on your scanner?
 
Yes, it's a problem. And its a problem caused by "players" like you. It's unfortunate that FD chose this solution when the obviously better one would be to ban you and your friend from playing in open.

Don't argue with these kinds of people, don't try to fight them. Just ignore them. All they are trying to do is get a rise out of people and annoy as many as possible.
 
I dont actually have the game yet but i thought that if you didn't dock or leave the station docking area within X amount of time the station opened fire on you?

Another idea i guess is station tractor beams to immobilize the griefing ship?
 
I don't know how this would end up..maybe have an extended loitering free zone infront of the letterbox, just like the docking pads have. I know the 'rammer's' could just keep coming back but that would keep on disrupting their game.
 
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Well who decides here was it an accident, a suicide attempt or did you try to kill the guy?
FD assumes now that anyone over the speed limit is a potential killer and if he hits someone, he will be a criminal. And this is a problem.
If the patch goes live just like that, every time you hit someone with significant speed, you will be a criminal and the station will kill you.

And no fire zone means just that - no fire. Ramming is allowed and should be allowed. If you kill someone, they can charge you for that, if you do damage to the hull - you get a fine. If there is no damage done to the ship, nothing happens. Suicide attemps will not count at all.
Well then,,,,,

they should avoid it by flying carefully.
Physician, heal thyself,,,,,,,,,,, :D

To avoid the fine.
 
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If simeone is ramming my car by parking - he will receive a bill from my advocate and this will include all costs i have + compensation.
Please FD, make it this way ! Ramming will be allowed and all participants will be happy !
Such a rammer must habe a big wallet though...
 
If simeone is ramming my car by parking - he will receive a bill from my advocate and this will include all costs i have + compensation.
Please FD, make it this way ! Ramming will be allowed and all participants will be happy !
Such a rammer must habe a big wallet though...

I think the only solution would be to not allow docking at that station if they are fined for the ramming more than 5 times, because the amount of the fine won't make much difference nor will the amount of times they die from ramming people
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Deny docking permission if they receive more than 5 ramming fines in the space of 24 hours, banned from that station for life, there are only a handful of popular stations and they won't have anywhere to go after that to ram
 
I think the only solution would be to not allow docking at that station if they are fined for the ramming more than 5 times, because the amount of the fine won't make much difference nor will the amount of times they die from ramming people
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Deny docking permission if they receive more than 5 ramming fines in the space of 24 hours, banned from that station for life, there are only a handful of popular stations and they won't have anywhere to go after that to ram


Stupid idea. Just a good fine, like a million per kill max. Would do the trick. They would farm 2 hours to get 3-4 kills, thats enough. No bounty whatever. Just a lifetime fine, no crime. I can live with it.

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I fail to see how it's worse, when it seems to be a very big problem for a lot of players. Maybe just remove it near stations, and leave it elsewhere....

Its worse than anything. Now you cant even collide with people by accident, you get an instant wanted tag and will die because the station needs max 10sec to kill anything in this game. And this is stupid.
 
Stupid idea. Just a good fine, like a million per kill max. Would do the trick. They would farm 2 hours to get 3-4 kills, thats enough. No bounty whatever. Just a lifetime fine, no crime. I can live with it.

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Its worse than anything. Now you cant even collide with people by accident, you get an instant wanted tag and will die because the station needs max 10sec to kill anything in this game. And this is stupid.

How would that have any effect at all?
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I have just I unfriended someone I play with because they tried out an exploit with bounties and were able to earn around 15 million an hour and they tried to get me in on it
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No fine at all will effect them doing this as they admitted they used this to get money, 1 million is nothing to some people with A grade anacondas
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And with the new system you only get a bounty if you hit someone while travelling at over 100, banning them from the station if they hit people often is the only way they won't be able to ram people any more
 
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Well the bounty system can be exploited too - just get the cheapest ship that can travel to the system with your bounty and let the authority scan and kill you > done.

The fine will have an effect - people who dont use exploits, need some time to get the money back. And if they exploit something (and no, ramming is not an exploit right now, its a part of the gameplay - this is why they try a speed limit and dont remove it completly) - they will be banned for using exploits. Easy and and simple way to stop them. And even if they got 1kkk - they will spend iz on something else before they ram so many people down.
I expect the PVP aspect to grow and become a major part of the open world, thats what i want here and the game can provide it if the developer dont ruin the gameplay.
 
You know that ramming in stations is 'wrong'? This is not about ramming in combat - (I don't even like getting the paintwork scratched, never mind deliberately damaging the structural integrity of the only thing between me and vacuum.)

At Ridley Scott in Zaonce this afternoon, as I was leaving the station I was rammed repeatedly. I didn't have time to identify the "attacker" because I was busy trying to not get stuck in the 'birdcage'. (there was already a ship stuck there)
This was no accident - I was in a small ship and well over to the greenlight side.
This was in a 'no fire zone' - the intention of the no fire zone is for there to be no attacking - ships of opposing factions can dock and not worry about being blasted out of existence while they are unloading cargo. Without this 'convention' stations would be regularly destroyed by 'enemies' and space travel would cease.

The Universe is a dangerous place and we need to create and maintain some safe places.

Give people the benefit of the doubt when it comes to Zaonce, people try to rush in and out and a lot of it is because of the people that gave the area a bad name because of ramming. It seems to me if you spend too much time goofing around, you leave yourself open to this kind of abuse. therefore people rush so they can hopefully avoid being messed with as a preventative measure.

I know I hit 3 people yesterday and it wasn't on purpose and apologized after the fact. One was a vulture coming in while I was on my way out, I was in motion and trying to be a little speedy because a commander had his hardpoints deployed outside the station. The vulture come up over the lip of the letterbox from below and there was nothing I could do because there is not a whole lot of wiggle room for an Imperial Clipper in the slot. Later that night I hit two people on my way in to the station because it was late (early?) 3 AM and I was tired and in a rush. Not intentional, but it still happened as there were two on the way out back to back and I was on my way in. An Asp and a Lakon 6 I believe. It was an accident but I honestly can't say if they believe that or not and one of the Commanders put in local chat "Cmon". I really felt bad but that didn't help them any :(

What I worry about is people who may have a legitimate oopsie and getting reported because of all the paranoia that these d-bags are causing......

P.S. If any of the commanders I collided with see this I do want to say I am truly sorry and if you had significant damage and were set back send me a private message and I will do my best to make amends.
 
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Guy in a sidewinder tried ramming me at a station a few days ago, so i lit him up with my 2 C3 Beam Lasers, killed him in a few seconds. Then his friend (also in a sidewinder) tried to do the same, he didn't survive for long either, they kept respawning and tried again and again... and again... They must have gotten pretty annoyed about 45 - 60 minutes later because they gave up and called me some bad names haha. so i responded by continually killing them when they tried to leave the station.

i racked up quite a fine but it was worth it haha :D :D :D
 
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Guy in a sidewinder tried ramming me at a station a few days ago, so i lit him up with my 2 C3 Beam Lasers, killed him in a few seconds. Then his friend (also in a sidewinder) tried to do the same, he didn't survive for long either, they kept respawning and tried again and again... and again... They must have gotten pretty annoyed about 45 - 60 minutes later because they gave up and called me some bad names haha. so i responded by continually killing them when they tried to leave the station.

i racked up quite a fine but it was worth it haha :D :D :D

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