Can't disagree with that. Elite 2 did some things a lot better than ED is doing.
On the plus side a lot of those things are fixable for ED, it's just a case of will they? and when? Still waiting on stuff like smuggling, passengers etc.
1984 Elite vs 2014 Elite
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Can't disagree with that. Elite 2 did some things a lot better than ED is doing.
On the plus side a lot of those things are fixable for ED, it's just a case of will they? and when? Still waiting on stuff like smuggling, passengers etc.
Bingo. Saw myself in there. If I could rep you multiple times, I would.
That was kinda what I meant, but missed a bit out. Typing on some wacky Linux recovery browser. Focus is needed!! Exactly though. What I said about ED being in its infancy is important, and its clear from the 1.0->1.1->1.2 progress that 1.0 was released about a year too early. What I'd like FDEV to say would be that "2.0" will be released in January 2016 and give us a complete breakdown of what to expect. However, ongoing sales might suffer, and I'm happy to play through the micro-updates, or head off on an exploration disctraction waiting for 1.3, 1.4 etc. as the game progresses. The very core of the game, the ship graphics, the galaxy and especially the sound are awesome, and that's really important. The UI isn't magic. It needs a second form of interaction, e.g. mouse/cursor or some kind of in-game "smart device" screen which allows function control at the touch of a button.
I can't agree with that. Sure some of the most groundbreaking games were made at that time, but that doesn't necessarily mean they were good.
Thank you ALL for your replies. Helps me to understand what ED was made for.
I just turned 34 last month, and I can't help it but I feel too young for ED. It's the first time I've felt this way for a game.
I feel like I missed something crucial on the way to ED.
BTW, FPS isn't just about CoD guys........
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This I agree totally with. I really feel like a space pilot, piloting my own ship. Where in EVE I felt like a manager and laughed every time when I was called a pilot. Like saying I'm a soccer player when playing Fifa Manager.
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your not too young for the game BUT do get a copy of Elite+, Frontier or Frontier First Encounters then you will have a better understanding of how it all works and what all us old codgers are waffling about
I didn't expect me to be led by anyone or anything. But I did expect something to happen when I did something. Like If I killed off hundreds of pirates from the same faction, that faction would send assassins to claim some sort of black market bounty.
ED is both incredibly realistic, and incredibly stupid.
I haven't played SC yet. Was going to but after I saw the latest updates causing huge freezes and stuff I decided to wait until beta comes out, hopefully next year.
Elite Dangerous IS a sequel. It's the fourth game in a series. You wouldn't expect Star Wars 7 to have Wookies that speak English with a British accent and Jedi Knights using machine guns instead of light sabres? Or a remake of Back to the Future to use a Ferrari instead of a DeLorean? How about GTA6 to be about vintage 1920's car chases at 15mph? Or the Star Trek reboot to star a ship named "Fortitude" and have it bright green and shaped like a 1920's rocket? "Die Hard 6: Dieing for a Nap" without Bruce Willis saying "yippee kai ay mother *r"? A sequel MUST stay true to it's roots... it must be everything that made the original popular and then some more. If it changes the "story line" substantially it's not a sequel, it's a theft and a rip off.
You ask if ED fans want it too much to be like the earlier games? I ask you instead why you choose a sequel then expect it to be significantly different to it's predecessors? That's like going to see the reboot of Ghostbusters and complaining that it doesn't have enough car chases and police shootouts and violent black cops singing "bad boys".
<grins> There is something delightfully ludicrous about that concept!
your not too young for the game BUT do get a copy of Elite+, Frontier or Frontier First Encounters then you will have a better understanding of how it all works and what all us old codgers are waffling about
... or Oolite... the open source version of the original game.
1984 elite was one man in his space ship.
2014 was meant to capture that but it's got confused and gone off in bizzare direction. It started with no offline, followed by military ranks (already posting towards war game and taking sides) then came wings and now 1.3 looks it's going to dilute the original idea further. Remaking some kind of star wars has overwhelmed some very basic and fundamental aspects that made elite one of a kind
2014 was meant to capture that but it's got confused and gone off in bizzare direction. It started with no offline, followed by military ranks (already posting towards war game and taking sides) then came wings and now 1.3 looks it's going to dilute the original idea further. Remaking some kind of star wars has overwhelmed some very basic and fundamental aspects that made elite one of a kind
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This sort of event is exactly what we can hope for in future. Persistent npcs are in the DDA. It's a feature they outlined before production.
Not everything in the DDA is guaranteed to make it into the game but I can only imagine FD already want stuff like this or, if they read your post, would definitely agree it would be a cool feature.
Npcs that react in bespoke ways to your status is exactly what the game needs. The reputation system is the basis for that. Believe it or not, the whole reputation system didn't even exist a couple months before launch. And it's been improved a lot since then.
But it's still only a base function. I wouldn't be surprised if 1.4 or 1.5 introduced significant npc interaction content based on the reputation system. 1.3 is the first update that promises to add content that truly differs depending on your status.
We will get more.
Yup im STILL WAITING for the Krait
. Also all the other ships that were in Elite and the Frontiers. If anything if your making a Elite game you have to have the iconic ships like the Krait in there Hope so, that's one of the first & simplest things needed if we're ever going to get out of the cockpit and have anything to interact with.
Yup im STILL WAITING for the Krait
No sir
Mamba me up anyday.
Hope the Mamba is a low sig smuggler special , otherwise sad face.
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Yup im STILL WAITING for the Krait
Based on the information garnered do far, there's no indication the Krait is one of the 30 planned ships.
Probably good that we don't have the Energy Bomb in this version......
You know, something can be true to its roots and still be evolved...
For me, the new game has a very different atmosphere to the original. More serious, more realistic, more textured and insanely detailed. Although it's easy to criticise the emptiness of much of it, the lonely feeling you get when you're way out in deep space is unlike anything I've experienced in a game before. I kind of agree with a lot of the criticisms, but I'm still compelled to fire up the FSD again.
Also the combat is MILES better than anything we had in the original or its sequels.
Also the combat is MILES better than anything we had in the original or its sequels.
That is actually a good idea. I don't like GTA much, but I would buy that if they had a good representation of a large city as it was in the 1920's or 30's