UNKNOWN ARTEFACT: Sound Engineers, apply here!

sohara

sohara
Murp said:
I can say with near complete certainty that this is not the case. Think about it. They wouldn't be transmitting in English, much less the name of the station and not coordinates or something.

I'm pretty sure that it's just radio chatter I picked up from the station :)
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Agreed - I think we can conclude that the station name is part of the ambient noise from the sector, definitely not the Artefact.
- The audio is present without the Artefact,
- The audio is not present on other recordings.
= Evidence wins :)


Forgive me for the next part, but indulge me for but a moment!

I've been thinking about the fact that the purrs speed up over time - It's very odd that the howls don't follow this pattern. They remain static at 30 second intervals, while the purrs become quicker and higher pitched.

It could be that the pace quickens because the Artefact is decaying, or 'dying' in open space.

But what if that's not the case? What if it's part of a 'spin up' process? One could extrapolate from this that the longer the recording goes on, the more bits you'd be able to cram in between each howl, theoretically. The bandwidth between each howl is increasing.

I suspect that once we find a way to stabilise the Artefact in order to obtain a longer recording, we may be able to test this theory.
 
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SteveLaw

SteveLaw
mkten said:
Forgive me for the next part, but indulge me for but a moment!

I've been thinking about the fact that the purrs speed up over time - It's very odd that the howls don't follow this pattern. They remain static at 30 second intervals, while the purrs become quicker and higher pitched.

It could be that the pace quickens because the Artefact is decaying, or 'dying' in open space.

But what if that's not the case? What if it's part of a 'spin up' process? One could extrapolate from this that the longer the recording goes on, the more bits you'd be able to cram in between each howl, theoretically. The bandwidth between each howl is increasing.

I suspect that once we find a way to stabilise the Artefact in order to obtain a longer recording, we may progress further with this.
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I do like that. It may not even be spinning up to a message but spinning up to do something. How do we stabilise?
 

Ferigad

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SteveLaw said:
I do like that. It may not even be spinning up to a message but spinning up to do something. How do we stabilise?
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Hehe, we had both the same idea Steve. Posted it earlier in the other topic about the UA. Actually i think at the moment, that´s the most plausible for me, that this container is a spy satellite. The Cylinders at the back are radio antennas for surveillance, that part at it´s front (or back) is the mainframe, AI Tech. As soon as it sees a terran ship, it goes on self destruct. The sounds are a countdown, counting up (or down) and changing pitch . At each whale song, we see lights on the probe, indicating the boost of power or instability on the main reactor or battery of the unit. As soon as it reaches critical mass, it implodes on itself, leaving nothing back, except for atoms.

I now thats a boring theory, but the one that makes personal the most sense for me with the data we got.
 

sohara

sohara
SteveLaw said:
I do like that. It may not even be spinning up to a message but spinning up to do something. How do we stabilise?
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Currently, we can't. It follows a pre-set game rule - what is ejected, must inevitably perish. It's a mechanic designed to stop 'jet can spam', something that plagued EvE Online for a while. Once you jettison something, it starts a timer - once the timer expires, the object is removed.

It would be interesting if we found an alternative method of listening to the Artefact to prolong the signal.

A few suggestions:
- Don't listen to the Artefact, listen to the ship carrying it. Perhaps you could also ask the CMDR to open their cargo scoop in hopes of gaining a certain acoustic advantage!
- Listen while docked in a station. I remember someone claimed they could hear something strange while outfitting their ship... can't remember the source.
- Eject the Artefact into an Oxygen-rich environment, like a station. I think this has been tried already, however.
 
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Murp

Murp
Ferigad said:
Hehe, we had both the same idea Steve. Posted it earlier in the other topic about the UA. Actually i think at the moment, that´s the most plausible for me, that this container is a spy satellite. The Cylinders at the back are radio antennas for surveillance, that part at it´s front (or back) is the mainframe, AI Tech. As soon as it sees a terran ship, it goes on self destruct. The sounds are a countdown, counting up (or down) and changing pitch . At each whale song, we see lights on the probe, indicating the boost of power or instability on the main reactor or battery of the unit. As soon as it reaches critical mass, it implodes on itself, leaving nothing back, except for atoms.

I now thats a boring theory, but the one that makes personal the most sense for me with the data we got.
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Well, ALL canisters degrade in space, plus it doesn't degrade in your hold.
 

AH_ImADot

AH_ImADot
Have you tried putting the objects "together"? Eject the UA and maybe Hafnium near each other, then gently bump one so the two bump into each other. Maybe "something wonderful" will happen.
 

Murp

Murp
AH_ImADot said:
Have you tried putting the objects "together"? Eject the UA and maybe Hafnium near each other, then gently bump one so the two bump into each other. Maybe "something wonderful" will happen.
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If you want to suggest something unrelated to sound, please go to the main thread or another related thread.

EDIT: Also, this has already been tried.
 
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Sideromelane

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I'd be curious to see what would happen if you plugged the raw audio into a BBC micro emulator.

Or maybe there are a lot more of these things out there to find, and eventually once we have enough of them, the handful of bits can be assembled into something that can be compiled.
 

Ferigad

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Murp said:
Well, ALL canisters degrade in space, plus it doesn't degrade in your hold.
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But degrades your ship ^^ even better then just to blow up itself when it´s presence is discovered and somebody want to bring it away, don´t you think? :p
 

Alec Turner

Alec Turner
Alec Turner said:
So I was chatting to a work colleague who doesn't play Elite about all this yesterday. He's into shortwave radio and signal processing and stuff so I sent him this ...

http://youtu.be/pmfcAqK48po

Today he emails me and says "does elvill gateway mean anything to you?". I nearly had a heart attack! It turns out the nearest station to 109 Virginis is "Melville Gateway" so I guess it's just in the background noise. Damn he has good ears tho!
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OK, there was some confusion over what I said. When my colleague said he "heard" that phrase I assumed he literally heard it. It turns out he heard morse and it translated as elvill gateway.

He's just replied to my query as to exactly where it occurred ...

Could you let me know the exact time in that original recording at which you heard "elvill gateway"

0'58 - 1'10 - I can hear the 'M' now (dash dash), it's just a different pitch to the other dots and dashes.

and also could you give this one a listen .. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2FQzPIZqms
.. and let me know if you hear anything similar around the 1m to 1m08s mark.

I think there's something around 1'28 but I can't make it out. Maybe if
you could feed the audio into a waterfall display you'd see the morse,
although it wouldn't be as clear as you'd get with a proper radio morse
signal as it's a chirp rather than a pure tone.

 

Murp

Murp
Ferigad said:
But degrades your ship ^^ even better then just to blow up itself when it´s presence is discovered and somebody want to bring it away, don´t you think? :p
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No actually, I don't. I noticed the corrosion the second I picked it up, and I'm not dead yet. Would be better to just blow up.
 

slashgoh

slashgoh
I got the word "AIM" from the first "byte": 010011 taken from previous transcryption.
I used a Morse code analyzer that try to put spaces between letters in order to get a true word.
I'm not able to go ahead with the followong bytes....
Someone ha already tried this way?
 

Don_Von_Hulio

Don_Von_Hulio
Sure are alot of complicated theories. Anyone tried to relate it to a date this month. Possibly a chance to figure out 1.3 release before they announce it. If anything, that would be the only logical explanation because there is currently no way of explaining what it is until an update comes along.

Or by referencing the lore books that cost money.
 
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Alec Turner

Alec Turner
Just to re-iterate the significance of my previous post (and perhaps some people already knew this but I certainly didn't), there IS morse code in the background audio (presumably from every station) that transmits the name of the station.
 

SteveLaw

SteveLaw
Bloomoo said:
I've been playing with the various recordings of the 'voice' and I've managed to make the last bit somewhat clearer.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/tmsbzjrojl16ngk/he_bo_3_voice1.wav?dl=0

compare this with the other versions posted earlier,
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0hIXtltcwMq
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1DcReyHZVyf

I don't want to say what I think it's saying for now, to avoid planting ideas in people's heads.
But I'd be interested to hear what other people think.
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Nothing for me, sorry.
 

Stankbeast

S
Bloomoo said:
I've been playing with the various recordings of the 'voice' and I've managed to make the last bit somewhat clearer.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/tmsbzjrojl16ngk/he_bo_3_voice1.wav?dl=0

compare this with the other versions posted earlier,
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0hIXtltcwMq
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1DcReyHZVyf

I don't want to say what I think it's saying for now, to avoid planting ideas in people's heads.
But I'd be interested to hear what other people think.
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I can't understand a single word from it?
 

Petersen

P
I just downloaded all the audio files in the OP (obviously not the youtube videos because I'm too lazy to figure out how to rip out the audio).

In the very first ones from Aluto, I notice a very peculiar property I never noticed before.

Firstly, I know the Aluto ones start...oddly. They start in the middle of a howl instead of in the middle of a sequence of purrs. But that's not the interesting thing. The interesting this is that it seems like the very first purr in the first sequence of purrs is a lower pitch than the subsequent purrs.

I'm also noticing a lot of volume variance. There's one point in that recording where there is an almost imperceptibly quiet purr. from 3:19 to about 3:21.

The variance in volumes really bugs me. It makes me think we're missing purrs, but the purrs come at inconsistent times, too, so we can't just line them up and figure out how many purrs (bits) we're missing.

Also, as he mentions, his Kaunan 1 A recordings exhibit some extremely peculiar behavior where the howls fall on the 8th(!) purr (since the previous chittering), but then there are 2 more purrs before the next chittering!
 

EAGLE 5

EAGLE 5
Bloomoo said:
I've been playing with the various recordings of the 'voice' and I've managed to make the last bit somewhat clearer.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/tmsbzjrojl16ngk/he_bo_3_voice1.wav?dl=0

compare this with the other versions posted earlier,
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0hIXtltcwMq
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1DcReyHZVyf

I don't want to say what I think it's saying for now, to avoid planting ideas in people's heads.
But I'd be interested to hear what other people think.
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It sounds more like singing to me not speech.

Double Edit: And the last time I heard something like that it was the Breen in Star Trek which were known to hide coded messages in recordings of their sung nursery rhymes...
 
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