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You pick and choose your supporting comments while ignoring a bunch of conflicting evidence even when it's presented on a silver platter. There's a huge difference between "the game doesn't stop me doing this thing" and "this thing makes the game enjoyable for everyone".



Again, something we agree on. The mechanics don't work. If they DID work the anarchies would be more dangerous and the civilised areas would be safer. As it is now the anarchies are pretty much unpopulated and the civilised places are the dangerous ones... and the starter systems with the greatest number of sidewinders are the most dangerous. However (conflicting evidence you keep ignoring coming up here) the fact that FD are pushing their "crime and consequence" thing (as much as I think the basis of it is broken) shows that while they don't intend to stamp out crime, they also intend for it to have strong consequences... contrary to the vision you seem to think FD have of a pvp utopia. In short, they intend for it to be TREATED AS A CRIME... not as a sanctioned, "normalised" action.



Ahhhh.... we should only do things which make the game more enjoyable for everybody.

Seems pretty reasonable.
 
Ahhhh.... we should only do things which make the game more enjoyable for everybody.

Seems pretty reasonable.

It does to me to be honest. Everyone paid the same amount of money, to do otherwise is just selfish. Not realistic, no, people being people, but reasonable, yes.
 
It does to me to be honest. Everyone paid the same amount of money, to do otherwise is just selfish. Not realistic, no, people being people, but reasonable, yes.

Oh, come on man.

Pirating is encouraged behavior. It comes with penalties, but it is encouraged. If I interdict a type-7 full of palladium, demand its cargo, they try to run and I blast em.... did that make the game more enjoyable for that person? Some people would find it fun, but many many many others would hate it. It would ruin their day.
They may even come on the board to call me a griefer.

Should I stop being a pirate because some people don't find my actions enjoyable?

Certainly not.
 
Again, something we agree on. The mechanics don't work. If they DID work the anarchies would be more dangerous and the civilised areas would be safer. As it is now the anarchies are pretty much unpopulated and the civilised places are the dangerous ones...

Indeed, and a certain proportion of people will always take advantage of flawed mechanics. However we should blame and fix the system, since that can be fixed and people cant.
 
Is there anything someone can do about (and I use the term loosely) people that interdict you and kill you while your ship is empty while you are try to play the game and trade its getting beyond a joke now

Haven't read all the answers, but groups and solo are your options.

Mobius PvE group with consensual PvP in conflict zones is a good alternative. Over 8000 commanders and growing:

http://elitepve.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4

Fly safe Commander :)
 
Bzzt. You just lost this argument. The ED version of Godwin's Law just got you.

Yes I lost an argument because you said I did. Such authority, wow.

People should be able to murder to their hearts content, and pay a heavy price if caught. I cant get over how many people play an MMO game and then complain about player interaction. Its the freedom in this game, the freedom to do whatever you want, that makes it so great, and then you have people have a complete sook when they lose a pvp engagement because they were stupid and were trading in open without shields or dont know how to properly utilize all the tools available to them in order to survive a hostile encounter.

The game is called Elite: Dangerous, not Elite: safe.

The torrent of tears in this thread and indeed on these forums could fill California's Dams.
 
Should I stop being a pirate because some people don't find my actions enjoyable

Stop pirating those people, yes you should. Open is a mixed mode, not a PvP only mode no matter how many people try to claim that it is, so PvP should be consensual and responsible. Those people will probably stop playing or switch to Solo so you will not be able to pirate them anyway, so why not consider not sending them away with a negative experience of the game?
 
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Haven't read all the answers, but groups and solo are your options.

Mobius PvE group with consensual PvP in conflict zones is a good alternative. Over 8000 commanders and growing:

http://elitepve.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4

Fly safe Commander :)

To be fair, people get kicked for 'consensual pvp' in conflict zones after a few people get killed by someone vastly superior, so its consensual as long as certain people dont have to rebuy a hull.
 
Stop pirating those people, yes you should. Open is a mixed mode, not a PvP only mode no matter how many people try to claim that it is, so PvP should be consensual and responsible. Those people will probably stop playing or switch to Solo so you will not be able to pirate them anyway, so why not consider not sending them away with a negative experience of the game?

So, I should say... "excuse me, kind sir. I was thinking of demanding your cargo, but... only if it makes you happy."

I have a feeling I would be a pretty poor pirate.
 
Stop pirating those people, yes you should. Open is a mixed mode, not a PvP mode so PvP should be consensual and responsible. Those people will probably stop playing or switch to Solo so you will not be able to pirate them anyway, so why not consider not sending them away with a negative experience of the game?

This is the stupidest thing I have ever seen.

Person interdicts someone: "Sir can I interest you in being pirated?"
"NO thanks"

Pirates arent nice people, they will remove your cargo by force if they need to. It adds to the immersion of the game. You cant play in open mode, enjoy the great things you can do in it, and then not take the risks associated with it, thats just the way it is, stop whinging about it and accept it.

Its not like solo mode isnt available, its been there from the start.
 
To be fair, people get kicked for 'consensual pvp' in conflict zones after a few people get killed by someone vastly superior, so its consensual as long as certain people dont have to rebuy a hull.

I find that hard to believe. Proof, or it didn't happen buddy. :)

Fly safe.
 
This is the stupidest thing I have ever seen.

Person interdicts someone: "Sir can I interest you in being pirated?"
"NO thanks"

Pirates arent nice people, they will remove your cargo by force if they need to. It adds to the immersion of the game. You cant play in open mode, enjoy the great things you can do in it, and then not take the risks associated with it, thats just the way it is, stop whinging about it and accept it.

Its not like solo mode isnt available, its been there from the start.



Hey, now.

Steve's a pretty good guy. We can disagree with folks without being jerky.

Sandmann on the other hand, give em your best. ;)
 
Yes I lost an argument because you said I did. Such authority, wow.

People should be able to murder to their hearts content, and pay a heavy price if caught. I cant get over how many people play an MMO game and then complain about player interaction. Its the freedom in this game, the freedom to do whatever you want, that makes it so great, and then you have people have a complete sook when they lose a pvp engagement because they were stupid and were trading in open without shields or dont know how to properly utilize all the tools available to them in order to survive a hostile encounter.

The game is called Elite: Dangerous, not Elite: safe.

/pendantic_mode
Elite Dangerous is so called due to the rating you need to attain prior to the Elite Federation of Pilots approaching you to join - it has nothing to do with the levels of risk (dangerous) which whilst appropriate isn't the reason. Sadly FD didn't implement this yet so you need to reach Elite (for now)
/pendantic_mode_off

I agree that you're free to do what you want when you want. My only gripe is that the punishment does not fit the crime - 1.3 should address that (to some degree)

I play open, but it's irrelevant where someone plays to have an opinion - calling a different group of players (PvE) "carebears" is derogatory which I suspect was the reason behind the "bzzt" post. You don't need to call people names to have a valid point (and you had one) For example : when you were last killed did you wipe your commander, or did you take the "carebear" approach and claim insurance* ? (See, I bet you did when you were killed, but it's not nice being called something just because your preferences are different)




*Self imposed IM ;)
 
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