Ships Lakon Diamondback, how much will it cost?

cometcruiser

cometcruiser
puca said:
Dropship is terrible, though. Nobody other than novelty seekers will buy your ship, they will just save 1-2 more millions and buy an asp. Ship needs a reason to exist at a particular price point.
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I always thought the Asp would have been better having a size 4 or another size 5 compartment, instead of the many number of smaller ones. For the mining role, fitting large shields, and a large fuel scoop and other larger modules was restricted by the lack of a size 4 or another 5. If the Diamondback, had limited number but larger ones, and wanted to fill the mini Asp explorer role, you could not be an effective explorer, due to lack of smaller compartments, limiting you ability to carry exploration equipment. You need up to 3 compartments to explore before you even think about shields. Two spots for scanners, one for scoop, and then repair units on top of that. The Asp gets all the smaller compartments it needs to be an explorer. Without the size 4's it is not the ideal mining vessel. You use up the large points with shields and scoop and have no space for the larger refinery modules.

The diamond back, could be putting large shields and have 3, size 6 or 5 spots left for refineries, but have no space for scanners, so placing it in a little role for itself. It would not be a good explorer, but an average trader and a good miner.
 

Tuub t Tute

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I know ED can go a bit TARDIS with some ships, so trying to objectively scale size against cockpit in the concept art is always going to be sketchy (see what I did there...) The Asp cockpit looks a bit bigger in relation to the ship as it is a tandem 1 up 1 down, whereas the T6 and T7 are single chair.
With that in mind, the concept art puts the Dback somewhere between the Asp and the Dropship to my eyes. If it is going to be "A multirole ship about the size of a Dropship but you don't need the faction for it" then you need to look at base internals on the Asp and the Dropship. 92t vs 132t with standard shield modules. So if it is dropship sized, it might be a bridge between the Asp / T6 and the T7 / Clipper so maybe 152 Cargo, 4 med hardpoints, 4 utilities, nothing bigger than a size 5 module internals. Speed and Agility less than a Vulture but better than a T7.

It has to be a compromise ship, as we have seen there is no new "Win button" ship after the Python was adjusted.

TLDR: factionless dropship with no large hardpoint and maybe 5M more cost?
 

Derath

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puca said:
You just want to hoist the black flag in it!
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I'd only hoist the black flag if they say they fixed combat logging, at least they fixed the people bounty farming each other, though in a way that leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

Also slow sucks for black flag!.... Except for slow targets too, ok I admit i've got beef with Anacondas they made them stupidly well shielded then let them jump out from every engagement anyway while gradually making all the weapons that actually worked on them worse lol its so much hard work to pirate an anaconda, a little bit too hard if you ask me. This is why I was hoping 1.3 had the corvette & fixed all the cheating holes so I could go on a vengeance spree, still no dice but theres always the future.
 
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Alien147

Alien147
Interplanetary shuttle with no FSD. Used for transferring from the spaceport where you sold your Sidewinder to one where there might be a Hauler. 7,500 credits.
 

Entilzar

Entilzar
Its already been mentioned in the newsletter, it will be an armed explorer, guess that's for when the aliens come,

Id guess around 40 - 50 mil

Enty
 

mysterious42

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Entilzar said:
Its already been mentioned in the newsletter, it will be an armed explorer, guess that's for when the aliens come,

Id guess around 40 - 50 mil

Enty
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where do you get that lol ? :p if i might ask

it seems as big as a vulture. id say 5-6 millions probably... as sort of heavy fighter like vulture
 

Entilzar

Entilzar
mysterious42 said:
where do you get that lol ? :p if i might ask

it seems as big as a vulture. id say 5-6 millions probably... as sort of heavy fighter like vulture
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just a guess based off what FD usually do with ships on first relelase, will probably go in credit heavy , ppl whill whine saying too much then they'll drop it to a sensible price. Also an asp is 6 mil so id expect a combat explorer to be more expensive then the current explorer non combat offering currently employed by most out in the black.

Enty
 
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Starender

Starender
Price: 15 millions (around 45 millions fully equiped)

Mass: 260t (ASP is 280t)

Shield: 200 (between vulture and asp)
Armor: 180
Landing Pad: Medium

Speed: 280 (can reach 310 max)
Boost: 360 (can reach 400 max)
Agility: 6

Jump range: 23Ly (combat) to 27Ly (explorer)
Fuel tank: 32t
Hardpoints: 1 big, 2 medium, 2 small
Utility mounts: 4

Internals: 5, 5, 3, 3, 3, 1, 1
Cargo (no-shield): 92t max

The Lakon Diamondback can be considered expensive for it's size but also reasonably priced once you see how balanced it is overall. Perfect for Combat/explorers, it can also be turned into any profession but won't be anywhere as good an ASP for exploring or a T7 for trading.
Bounty hunters, pirates and miners especially likes the Diamondback for its good mobility to travel around the universe and still be able to pack a good punch and some cargo.
 
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Petersen

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Starender said:
Price: 15 millions (around 45 millions fully equiped)

Mass: 260t (ASP is 280)

Shield: 200 (between vulture and asp)
Armor: 180
Landing Pad: Medium

Speed: 280 (can reach 310 max)
Boost: 360 (can reach 395 max)
Agility: 6

Jump range: 23Ly (combat) to 27Ly (explorer)
Hardpoints: 1 big, 2 medium, 2 small
Utility mounts: 4

Internals: 5, 5, 3, 3, 3, 1, 1
Cargo (no-shield): 92t max

The Diamondback can be considered as expensive for it's size but also reasonably priced once you see how balanced it is overall, perfect for Combat/explorers, it can also be turned into any profession but won't be as good an ASP for exploring and trading for example. Bounty hunters, pirates, miners especially likes the Diamondback for its good mobility to travel around the universe and still enable to carry a good punch and some cargo.
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That jump range is way too short. If it's not breaking 40 ly, it's not worth such a step up in price from my Asp. I realize that 1 Class 3 weapon is better than 2 Class 1 weapons, but I have a hard enough time outfitting my Asp just fitting two Class 2s and a shield (while being a competent exploration ship), much less finding the power for a Class 3 on top of it. No. Give me a clumsier Vulture with a Class 6 FSD, Class 5 Reactor, and a couple more internal slots (another 5 and 2), and a 32 ton fuel tank, then I'll be happy (so long as it's center-seated and has a nice cockpit).

Also, wasn't the D-back said to be "affordable"? I get the feeling it'll be a step between the Adder and Asp, probably 2 million credit hull cost.
 

Ben Salient

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DiamondBack ? Basks in the sun , Lethal , and goes anywhere/everywhere .. otherwise it won't live upto it's name..
just hope the Drives don't RATTLE ... that would really be annoying :)
 

Starender

Starender
they said "reasonably priced", not affordable :p of course no one is sure what it means exactly, i agree on the fuel tank i edited it, but it seems that you want a ship with a mass of 320t to fill that much more internals, that would be better for trade/mining but also a lot worse for speed/agility and a bigger ship = easier to hit.

i won't cry if you are right but the stats i did make it the perfect ship for me :p but i really hope it will be "ASP size"
 
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Lupis

Lupis
Starender said:
they said "reasonably priced", not affordable :p of course no one is sure what it means exactly, i agree on the fuel tank i edited it, but it seems that you want a ship with a mass of 320t to fill that much more internals, that would be better for trade/mining but also a lot worse for speed/agility and a bigger ship = easier to hit.

i won't cry if you are right but the stats i did make it the perfect ship for me :p but i really hope it will be "ASP size"
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I think maybe T6 price range?
 

jabberwalkie

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Without knowing really anything about the ship stats, I'd guess this will probably be slightly less expensive than the Fed Dropship. I just don't see why they would put out another ship that is around a million credits. If anything I bet this will slot into the gap between the Asp (6 mil) and the Type 7 (17 mil), which is below the Fed Dropship at 19 mil.
 

GimpstersGhost

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I am fairly certain that the Diamondback will be a small sized frame, roughly Viper/Vulture sized and have a hull cost of less then 5,000,000cr. Think long range less well armed and armored Vulture. It is a small reasonably priced multi-role ship will not much cargo space. To me this means one or two big internal bays, (Shield and Fuel), a single med sized internal bay for a fuel scoop or cargo rack and a few small internal bays for either combat or scanner modules. Two to four weapons of medium or small size and a few utility mounts, no more then four.
 
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