General / Off-Topic Spelling: Griefed.

It's griefed, not grieved.

I KNOW I KNOW. But it's important. 'I was grieved' doesn't really make sense, because it means people cried at your funeral. 'I grieved you' would technically actually be 'I grieved for you'. Implying you cried at my funeral. Which is nice, but not what you meant.

The verb here is 'to grief' meaning to harass someone else (in the online gaming world meaning of the world).

'to grieve' means 'cause to be sorrow'. Which might sound right, but doesn't actually work because it isn't the passive.

Here, the verb in it's active form, it's past simple.

CMDR Jeff Ryan griefed me. <--- Jeff Ryan killed me unfairly. The bad man.

CMDR Jeff Ryan grieved for me <--- Jeff Ryan was really sad when another man (or even he) killed me unfairly.

So that's active, using the past simple. The passive is often used in the forums because we can't say who did the action. The passive form is created by taking the object of the active sentence and making it the subject, so me becomes I. You then add the verb 'to be' in whatever grammar form you want, in this case the past simple, so was if it's singular or were if it's plural (or you) and the particple of the verb. Which in this case in both example is the same as the past simple because they're regular verbs.

So we have Whatever the action was done to + to be (in the correct grammatical form) + participle.

So:

I was griefed!!! <--- Some bad man, probably that Jeff Ryan fella killed me unfairly. The bad man.
I was grieved!!! <--- Demonstrating surprise on arrival in heaven so many people cried at my funeral.

We can play around however we like though:

I have griefed you. <--- In the past I killed you a lot.
I have grieved for you <--- In the past I cried a lot for you.

Or

I'll grief you. <--- Probably a threat using the future form to harass you.
I'll grieve for you. <--- I'll cry at your funeral buddy!

We can even throw in a conditional or two.

If you grief me, I'll call my buddies to grief you back. <--- First conditional, this is what'll happen.

If you grieve for me, I'll tell St. Peter to let you. <--- If you cry for me a lot, I'll have a word with the big guy. I'm probably about to die.

If you griefed me, I'd call my buddies. <--- Same as above, but we're just hypothetically chatting. This is the second conditional. Or what I call the Pub Conditional, because we use this a lot in pubs.

If you grieved for me, I'd tell St. Peter to let you in. <--- Similar to above, but this time we're just saying. I'm not dying.

Hope that clears things up.

Shaun.

PS. I'm an English teacher these days, does it show?
 
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Spelling police !!!
I'm going to do the next sentence all in typos just to annoy you.
becus itz relly hrd tu rite lyke thes jus tu anoy u.

Seriously though, bad spelling and grammar on the internet annoys me a lot, but it's also impolite to correct people, and just I want to get all spelling police on their asp too.

Peace & fly safe all you bad spellers out there :D

EDIT: Did you know my spelling actually improved when I started posting on forums online? It's because I could go back and correct what I'd written and look up how to spell hard words. It's also why a lot of my posts have "Last edited ..." on them.
 
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I'm actually pretty easy going. And lax as hell with particularly bad spelling and grammar. I even defended someone recently everyone was having a go at. Because you don't know the context, whether they're just REALLY bad or someone from another country struggling to express what they mean. So yeah, I agree. It's also why I opened a thread rather than target some poor guy or girl who was the last to use 'grieve' in their post that I read and set off this post.

I also hate grammar police and people who get irked with homophones (words that sounds that same but have different spelling, like their, they're, here, hear etc) EVERYONE does it, even people who correct other people for doing it and know better sometimes let the odd homophone slip through. I even do it myself.

Two things annoyed me about grief/grieve.

a) It pops up a bit too much lately.
b) It was something like 2am when I wrote the post and I'd had a beer.

PS. I did have fun writing the OP.
 
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I wish you luck with this one. :)
I think you're hiding to nothing.

As GBS said.

"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and
besides, the pig likes it."
 
It's griefed, not grieved.

I KNOW I KNOW. But it's important. 'I was grieved' doesn't really make sense, because it means people cried at your funeral. 'I grieved you' would technically actually be 'I grieved for you'. Implying you cried at my funeral. Which is nice, but not what you meant.

The verb here is 'to grief' meaning to harass someone else (in the online gaming world meaning of the world). ?

You are mixing tenses.

Grieved is a current state of being.

Greiffed is a past point where an effect occurred.

As for the word Greiffed being English, unless you're an American, then any word is English if it is understood within a specific context. Otherwise a word will only be English is if becomes understood within an assumed context through usage.

Americans think Bicester is pronounced bi-ses-ter, which basically sums them up.
 
You are mixing tenses.

Grieved is a current state of being.

Greiffed is a past point where an effect occurred.

As for the word Greiffed being English, unless you're an American, then any word is English if it is understood within a specific context. Otherwise a word will only be English is if becomes understood within an assumed context through usage.

Americans think Bicester is pronounced bi-ses-ter, which basically sums them up.

Incorrect. Both come from two different verbs. To grief and to grieve as I explained above. Both are active verbs. You're correct in that words gain meaning from context, but grieved is not the same as griefed. (Though they have the same etymology).

The passive forms are: She is grieved for by her parents. Her parents are sad she's gone. She is griefed by her parents. Her Mum and Dad are harassing the hell out of her in WoW. Much better players.

Incidentally the etymology is interesting. Because the verb 'to grief' comes from the noun 'grief' which is from the verb 'to grieve'. So there IS a link. But they're not the same.

PS. Because if you think about it 'to grief' is really an abbreviation of 'to cause grief' though it's now an acceptable verb in its own right.

PPS. I haven't googled anything yet, don't make me.
 
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dayrth

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My Comprehensive School was in an area in the town called "Wearde" ... 100% true, I went to a school nicknamed "Wearde" :D

Was it this one:

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Was it this one:

That looks scarily familiar ... either you lived there as well, or you used Google.

EDIT: The school itself wasn't actually called "Wearde" it's official title (when I was there) was "[town] Comprehensive School" ... it's since changed that name to something more posh.
 
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Incorrect..................... but grieved is not the same as griefed. (Though they have the same etymology).

I didn't say they were.

I suggest you try not being clever and read wot were ritten.

Because, after all, clever is a state of being.

Clevered is just silly.
 
Ok, calm down you two. Don't make me turn this ship around, or there'll be no expansions for you from Braben Claus at Elitemass!!!!!! :p
 

dayrth

Volunteer Moderator
That looks scarily familiar ... either you lived there as well, or you used Google.

EDIT: The school itself wasn't actually called "Wearde" it's official title (when I was there) was "[town] Comprehensive School" ... it's since changed that name to something more posh.

I don't live there, but I do know Saltash. It's just called Saltash Community School now.
 
I don't live there, but I do know Saltash. It's just called Saltash Community School now.
Normally I'd tell you to keep something like that confidential ... but I did post "Wearde" and I did a Google search for "Wearde School" and it's not hard to find it ... so, I'm OK with you posting the name of the town where I grew up.

(It's not like an objection would have a leg to stand on :))

ANYWAY ... back on topic ...

Griffen .... wait ... Grieffined ... no, wait I'll get it ... Grieffedd .... isn't that a Welsh town? .... Griefed ... There we go :D
 
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I didn't say they were.

I suggest you try not being clever and read wot were ritten.

Because, after all, clever is a state of being.

Clevered is just silly.

grieved is the past simple and the participle of grieve.
griefed is the past simple and the participle of grief.

Neither is a 'state of being' unless we're using the passive form (which I think is what you mean) and it applies to both case.

'I was griefed'
'I was grieved'

Of course griefed, grieved and also clever are all adjectives (you can use the participle of verbs as the passive adjective, but that applies in both cases), which might also be what you mean.
 
grieved is the past simple and the participle of grieve.
griefed is the past simple and the participle of grief.

Neither is a 'state of being' unless we're using the passive form (which I think is what you mean) and it applies to both case.

'I was griefed'
'I was grieved'

Of course griefed, grieved and also clever are all adjectives (you can use the participle of verbs as the passive adjective, but that applies in both cases), which might also be what you mean.

Nope.
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