Technically my fault...but still unrealistic and dumb

If police officers are shooting at someone... can you also start shooting at that person?

Try walking in on a group of cops in a gunfight and firing off a few rounds in real life, and see where that gets you.

I think that line of argument isn't going to be helpful in this discussion. If we compare to "real life", then all things should be equal. In this case, we are not allowed to go bounty hunting and kill people on sight who are Wanted by the authorities either.
 
I think that line of argument isn't going to be helpful in this discussion. If we compare to "real life", then all things should be equal. In this case, we are not allowed to go bounty hunting and kill people on sight who are Wanted by the authorities either.

THANK YOU!.. I can't believe the backlash I'm seeing and some of it from mods? really? Let the man rant and move on.

Sometimes I just don't know about this community.
 
You are a pilot, you may have a rank within Federation or Empire but you are not a member of System Authority Forces.

I know this, I mean how the game currently functions, your rank has nothing to do with how the authority treats you - but at the same time, that SHOULD mean something, the main faction the system was under control by was a Federal faction, and by proxy, that should also extend to their authority forces.

I know I'm dumb and stupid for shooting them before the scan was finished, but from an immersion perspective, I should already be Allied to them. I don't mean to say I'm right about what I did and that getting shot to death was a glitch, but it should count for something.
 
I think that line of argument isn't going to be helpful in this discussion. If we compare to "real life", then all things should be equal. In this case, we are not allowed to go bounty hunting and kill people on sight who are Wanted by the authorities either.

The events have happened in a "no fire zone" and before the scan was complete. Hence, the bounty for an assault and OP became not that much different from the adder that was hunted down.
 
Alright, alright, you all win, I'm just upset about this. I get the message, I shouldn't have done what I did and I was dumb to do it.

I'm wrong, you don't need to tell me any more.
 
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Yeah, this gameplay is missing from ED. The game is still early with features

I'd like to see the addition of deputisation in the game. So once Allied to a faction, you can be recognised as an irregular volunteer in its system authority defense forces. That way, you essentially, have a dispensation to join in an attack without the scan completing, and also more leeway on freindly-fire.
 
I'd like to see the addition of deputisation in the game. So once Allied to a faction, you can be recognised as an irregular volunteer in its system authority defense forces. That way, you essentially, have a dispensation to join in an attack without the scan completing, and also more leeway on freindly-fire.
yes exactly
 
That way, you essentially, have a dispensation to join in an attack without the scan completing, and also more leeway on freindly-fire.

Why? Seriously. Is it toooooooooo muuuuuuuuuch to wait a second for the scan to complete before you pew pew pew?

Smart pilots might see the scan completion time as an opportunity to line up their shot and charge their railguns.
 
What I can't stand is when an npc is already hostile to you but you can't shoot back because you haven't scanned them yet. I mean, come on FD! This is broken!
 
Alright, alright, you all win, I'm just upset about this. I get the message, I shouldn't have done what I did and I was dumb to do it.

I'm wrong, you don't need to tell me any more.

Your largest mistake was to start bounty hunting by the station. If you assault someone in a no fire zone and get a bounty for it then the station opens fire at you, and as a result your chances to survive are 0. Had it happened anywhere else system authority vesslest probably would not have been able to destroy you, a Python is a sturdy ship for system authority vessels to easily destroy it.

What I can't stand is when an npc is already hostile to you but you can't shoot back because you haven't scanned them yet. I mean, come on FD! This is broken!

Nothing is broken. You can shoot only at wanted ships and you need to scan them to identify the status. Moreover, you can be hostile with a faction but unless the ship belonging to this faction has broken the laws - it is clean. Hostile and wanted might not mean the same.
 
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It's not the having, it's the getting

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Garfield cops...
 
Your largest mistake was to start bounty hunting by the station. If you assault someone in a no fire zone and get a bounty for it then the station opens fire at you, and as a result your chances to survive are 0. Had it happened anywhere else system authority vesslest probably would not have been able to destroy you, a Python is a sturdy ship for system authority vessels to easily destroy it.
I already said I was wrong, what more do you want? I know what I did was stupid, I know I got a bounty and subsequently got destroyed. Come on, you've all told me this about a billion times already, I think I got the message...
 

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I already said I was wrong, what more do you want? I know what I did was stupid, I know I got a bounty and subsequently got destroyed. Come on, you've all told me this about a billion times already, I think I got the message...

I've added the details that it is very dangerous to attempt bounty hunting it close to the station. ;) This might be useful advice for those who are going to read the post. The consequences of firing at a clean ship anywhere else (e.g. at RES) are usually not that harsh.
 
Your largest mistake was to start bounty hunting by the station. If you assault someone in a no fire zone and get a bounty for it then the station opens fire at you, and as a result your chances to survive are 0. Had it happened anywhere else system authority vesslest probably would not have been able to destroy you, a Python is a sturdy ship for system authority vessels to easily destroy it.



Nothing is broken. You can shoot only at wanted ships and you need to scan them to identify the status. Moreover, you can be hostile with a faction but unless the ship belonging to this faction has broken the laws - it is clean. Hostile and wanted might not mean the same.

This is nonsense. When you are rep hostile with a faction you are kill-on-sight for them; it only makes sense that the obviously hostile ships that are already trying to kill you, should be clear to engage, whether they are wanted or not, and whether you have scanned them or not, provided that you are not yourself wanted.
 
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I'm familiar with this, but it was literally wanted right after I shot it, like a split-second before, and I still got obliterated instantly...

The way i think of it is that the bounty hunter is basicly acquiring a warrant from a scan basicly its requesting permission to engage from the authorities of a system, additional claims can be made with a kill warrant scanner for other active bounties from other groups before there blown up.
 
This is nonsense. When you are rep hostile with a faction you are kill-on-sight for them; it only makes sense that the obviously hostile ships that are already trying to kill you, should be clear to engage, whether they are wanted or not, and whether you have scanned them or not, provided that you are not yourself wanted.

If another ship has hit you - then it becomes wanted unless you are in an Anarchy system. Otherwise, the laws are equal for everyone and hostile does not necessarily mean wanted.

And you will be able to engage in combat with enemy ships in 1.3 if the power of your choice is at war with them.
 
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