News Elite: Dangerous Steam Keys

Yeah, that's a fair interpretation. We don't think of it as a tax though, just part of working with third party retailers.

Does this mean that if I buy ship paint (or anything else) here on the FD site, Steam will still get the 30% cut? (After / if I use a Steam code)
 
no matter what I do, the partener key thing doesn't appear for me =(

Edit: got it working by login in with another browser.
 
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Does this mean that if I buy ship paint (or anything else) here on the FD site, Steam will still get the 30% cut? (After / if I use a Steam code)

It seems - yes.
Thats why i am not linked to steam account.

I am trying to support a game around 10-20 bucks by month with buying some stuff like t-shirts, mugs, paintjobs, etc, and i do not want to support steam, but FD and Elite.
 
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A while ago I bought The Secret World and activated it on Steam. It requires an account at Funcom in the same way that Elite requires an account at Frontier.
I logged into my Funcom account to purchase £5 of Funcom points with my credit card and was informed that I couldn't buy them, instead I would have to put funds in my Steam wallet and purchase them that way. This is part of the reason why I happen to think once the 2 accounts are linked, transactions are liable for Valve's cut.

You would be correct based on the current information that has been posted by FD staff. Some people are blind to this because it doesn't fit with their perfect world vision of Steam and Valve.


Was some clarification in this case from yesterday?


Yes, despite the deliberate misinformation spread such as below. This person when shown the current information on several occasions, did not respond to it, chose to ignore it.


Negative. This is still hearsay based off of what some people interpreted from a developer's brief topic post, which didn't shed any definitive light in one direction or the other, apparently.


This, of course, will not stop people from proclaiming the statement you quoted as fact.


A wierd interpretation of "facts" - we can only believe FD staff right now.


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Hm, nobody is interested in financial agreements, nobody want to know 'how much'.


People just want to choose the most favorable for developer way of access the game. Steam give anything to game, so wil be better when all people payments will go directly to developer, without steam cut.


Clarification is answer for a question 'redeem a key or better not'. Everybody would like to know what they should do.


Clearly following on from the first post by Ed and the one linked on page 25, it intimates not using your Steam key is more beneficial to FD. Here it is again: http://imgur.com/lpm1OuJ


Agreed. I'm an alpha backer and have bought a further (circa) £75 of merchandise and skins through the store. If I move to steam will they get a cut of the £275 I've already given to FD? Or is it only future purchases?


Future purchases would appear to be it. See details above. Although you have certainly supported FD well. Props to you sir, I wish I'd had the money to do the same.


Does this mean that if I buy ship paint (or anything else) here on the FD site, Steam will still get the 30% cut? (After / if I use a Steam code)


This is the only supported understanding right now based on what FD have told us.


It seems - yes.
Thats why i am not linked to steam account.


I am trying to support a game around 10-20 bucks by month with buying some stuff like t-shirts, mugs, paintjobs, etc, and i do not want to support steam, but FD and Elite.


Then until we hear from Ed or another FD staffer otherwise, don't use the key.
 
A quick question - and apologies if it's already been asked in the lat 35 pages! - will there be a time limit for the Steam key redemption?

I don't want to use it just yet, as I'd like FD to get as much proceeds as possible from future purchases I do, however Steam is a much better platform regarding downloading and updating so I would switch to Steam if there was actually a time limit on the key redemption.

Does anyone know? Thanks.
 
Does this mean that if I buy ship paint (or anything else) here on the FD site, Steam will still get the 30% cut? (After / if I use a Steam code)

I think is when you generate the code, not when you actually use it.

By generating a Steam key all future purchases made with your Frontier account will also be associated with your Steam account

So, if you have generated it, the harm is already done, just feel free to activate it on Steam and give it a good review.
 
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There is no harm. The only difference about the Steam and the normal launcher is the link to the shop in it.
Don't use it, because it goes to https://steam.elitedangerous.com where you pay over steam.
Instead go to https://store.elitedangerous.com and make your purchases there to support only the developers.

That's interesting. I'd still like confirmation of that, because the dev said all the purchares from your Frontier account will be linked to steam.
 
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There is no harm. The only difference about the Steam and the normal launcher is the link to the shop in it.
Don't use it, because it goes to https://steam.elitedangerous.com where you pay over steam.
Instead go to https://store.elitedangerous.com and make your purchases there to support only the developers.

It'd be really great if there was a way Steam users could 100% financially support FD. As things stand, it doesn't look like it, but I'd be quite happy if this turned out not to be the case.
 
There is no harm. The only difference about the Steam and the normal launcher is the link to the shop in it.
Don't use it, because it goes to https://steam.elitedangerous.com where you pay over steam.
Instead go to https://store.elitedangerous.com and make your purchases there to support only the developers.

Have some Rep for this. I really wondered how Steam could guess I bought a ship skin over the webstore.
I can also only wonder about Frontier Development. They were only firing up people in this thread and made a rather poor and uninformed impression! Seriously!
 
Do we actually know yet if registering via Steam means Valve take a cut of purchases via the Frontier shop?

All I've seen is this http://imgur.com/lpm1OuJ which seems a bit vague and unsure.

And Edward's statement in the first post is somewhat vague?

By generating a Steam key all future purchases made with your Frontier account will also be associated with your Steam account. This won't affect how much you pay for the game or for paint jobs, but sticking with the EliteDangerous.com store remains the best way to support ongoing development with 100 percent of your money on future purchases.
 
Do we actually know yet if registering via Steam means Valve take a cut of purchases via the Frontier shop?

All I've seen is this http://imgur.com/lpm1OuJ which seems a bit vague and unsure.

And Edward's statement in the first post is somewhat vague?

Edward wrote:
By generating a Steam key all future purchases made with your Frontier account will also be associated with your Steam account. This won't affect how much you pay for the game or for paint jobs, but sticking with the EliteDangerous.com store remains the best way to support ongoing development with 100 percent of your money on future purchases.

OK, I was enlightened. Sorry, i am not native english, and maybe thats why it was not clear.
"By generating a Steam key all future purchases made with your Frontier account will also be associated with your Steam account. " means: directly from Frontier store AND when you link Frontier account and Steam account. So if you LINK accounts - generate key, and even you buy from FD store, there will be a Steam CUT.
"but sticking with the EliteDangerous.com store" means: be ONLY in FD store, NOT linked to the Steam...

Half Life 3 confirmed. I am not generate key.
 
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"By generating a Steam key all future purchases made with your Frontier account will also be associated with your Steam account. "

I read this as 'any further purchased content (where ever that may be) will show up on your Steam copy of the game', which is exactly what would be relevant for a customer to know and thus make a statement about.
 
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There is no "partner key" option in my dashboard at all :/ friend gave me link to partner key page too but it only opens empty page for me.
 
I'm happy to still own games which are not bound to some sort of DRM. I really don't understand the need for a steam key. I do feel like everything i got in my steam library is not really owned by myself. You never know what Valve is doing with their EULAs. Unless it is not gamebreaking, i wont submit to an additional layer of DRM. Seriously, why would someone would do something like this. I don't see any benefits from it, whether it is the overlay, playtime, exposure on friend list or anything else which basically can be done without steam. Still we thankfully do have a choice.

Cheers,
CMDR Wingprak

You are playing ED, wich requires an account to play, you cant play without one, and you are always connected. That IS a type of DRM. Besides, any EULA you agree to in software has a clause saying that you are NOT buying the product, you are only paying for the right of being able to use it, but ownership still belongs to the developer in some cases, to the publisher in other. You can thank that last bit to the DMCA it makes possible for devs/publishers to go for you if you try to tinker with the files of said software.
 
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