I think there are more important things to worry about, don't you? Is there not a profanity filter? The game can be stressful and people running away can be annoying. Who cares about what someone you will never meet, face to face, types at you. Put it into perspective.
To the FDL who can't handle being shot at...
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Mogz, with you on this one, I started the thread and it's about time it was put to bed. Some people got the point, some didn't, some we (both) sorted out and it's done now. Really thankful for all the opinions, whether I, or others agree with them or not, that's made a great debate, honestly but, as Mogz said, we're in danger of going round in circles.
We simply can't have bad language while we're try to kill each other Gentlemen! It's just not cricket!
"You mean you'll put down your rock and I'll put down my sword and we'll try to kill each other like civilized human beings?"
You fell victim to one of the classic blunders - the most famous, is never get involved in a land war in Asia. But only slightly less well known is this: Never go in against a Sicilian, when DEATH is on the line! Ha Ha! Ha Ha!
THUMP.
With regards to being worried about being banned by FD for language I think it's a lot of smoke with no fire here. With a bit of common sense, which FD would use when analysing these complaints, it should be easy to avoid any issues. If someone swears at you in game then essentially they threw the first stone and also, by using swear words have indicated they find that language acceptable. So swear away, FD would see the full chat log if they did report you. If someone tells you to expletive off out of the blue, then yes, that would be a problem for them.
Also, it's easy to be insulting without using swear words, often in more extreme ways than swearing. If they bait you into swearing at them and then report you it's pretty safe to say that you won't be the one facing any issues as they'll see what caused it.
Obviously homophobic and racist hate speech are a different thing and if they're using them freely then they've got more personal social problems to worry about fixing than playing this game.
It's all about context basically and most adults should understand the boundaries of that by default. There's also a big difference between swearing in general conversation and actually hurling abuse at someone, swear words or not.
Also, it's easy to be insulting without using swear words, often in more extreme ways than swearing. If they bait you into swearing at them and then report you it's pretty safe to say that you won't be the one facing any issues as they'll see what caused it.
Obviously homophobic and racist hate speech are a different thing and if they're using them freely then they've got more personal social problems to worry about fixing than playing this game.
It's all about context basically and most adults should understand the boundaries of that by default. There's also a big difference between swearing in general conversation and actually hurling abuse at someone, swear words or not.
Umm... No you don't.
And I don't suggest you try it.Hint; In COURT! If the judge is nice he MAY give you one free pass with a strong warning.
TLDR
As an adult its pretty simple:
If someone uses language that makes you feel bad block them
If someone makes threats then report their childish . (I hate internet tough guys) There are a lot of whiney little kids pretending to be adults in MMO's
To top it off unless your paying for my copy of ED you DO NOT get to tell me how to play PERIOD. (not that I attack anyone unless they are wanted or attack me first, however if I go pirate your all fair game).
See you in the black ladies and gentlemen
CMDR Mussie Out
As an adult its pretty simple:
If someone uses language that makes you feel bad block them
If someone makes threats then report their childish . (I hate internet tough guys) There are a lot of whiney little kids pretending to be adults in MMO's
To top it off unless your paying for my copy of ED you DO NOT get to tell me how to play PERIOD. (not that I attack anyone unless they are wanted or attack me first, however if I go pirate your all fair game).
See you in the black ladies and gentlemen
CMDR Mussie Out
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Muss.
Go actually READ the EULA that you electronically signed.
Someone gets abusive, they ought to expect to get reported. Abusive includes abusive language.
And get off your medium height horse. None of us here have any power in how YOU play the game. FD DOES! You agreed to play by THEIR rules when you started playing, so you don't have the right to moan IF someone decides to report you for breaking them. You may get 'let off' by the person you are being abusive towards, you may not. That is their decision. IF you get reported, FD may decide it's not worth bothering about, that's THEIR decision. But that's the risk anyone who is abusive in-game takes.
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Ian Phillips
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I just reported you for this quote in the hope that it will waste Ian Phillips' time
I already spend far too much time reading the forums.......
Ian Phillips
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Romeo and Juliet ?
Swearing just shows a lack of vocabulary. The English language has some superb adjectives that are even better than swearing, and quite often once you start swearing it is implicit that you have lost the argument. Anyway in PvP I would find it far mor menacing to stay silent, plus the fact I cant type and shoot at the same time.
Being ex military there is little profanity I have not had either heard of or had thrown at me, and it really does have little effect, and once it starts in a PvP it is quite comical, like handbags at three paces.
Best thing to do is to think up some real put downs, of which Churchill was a master:
Woman to Churchill "You Sir are drunk"
Churchill to woman "and you madam are ugly, but at least in the morning I will be sober".
Being ex military there is little profanity I have not had either heard of or had thrown at me, and it really does have little effect, and once it starts in a PvP it is quite comical, like handbags at three paces.
Best thing to do is to think up some real put downs, of which Churchill was a master:
Woman to Churchill "You Sir are drunk"
Churchill to woman "and you madam are ugly, but at least in the morning I will be sober".
Ian Phillips
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The issue was about abuse/abusive language in game and ways of dealing with it.
All the talk of legal rights, lawyers, having someone arrested for swearing on a game chat (really guys?), being abusive to cops is just off topic hyperbole and has no bearing on that, so please stop. Thanks.
All the talk of legal rights, lawyers, having someone arrested for swearing on a game chat (really guys?), being abusive to cops is just off topic hyperbole and has no bearing on that, so please stop. Thanks.
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Yup. Told you that some years ago now. Your punishment is you get to moderate. *evil maniacal laughter fades to coughing.
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Actually its a rather large horse. Grow up a little mate.
EDIT: Just to clarify using bad language in an abusive manner cause you died in a game is childish and shows weak character, running to the admins when you can just block is stupid.
Playing the game my way is about how i use my ship not how i treat other people.
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Never been in the cells, but been in custody once, and the police were so nice to me. Cups of tea, handshakes after my *ahem* story was told. I commented on their attitude, and the attitude of the arresting officers (who actually gave me a run home one day, and walked me to the end of the street on another), and they said they like to treat people the way they would be treated themselves. I can't imagine it always works out that way, but I suppose if you go in there with a slouch and some attitude it's everything by-the-book.
Back to the topic here: Swearing is totally unnecessary. It's just a game, and it's PEGI 7 (hard to enforce in an online game, but still applies). I would NEVER consider anything beyond a bit of cheek (sorry pirates. Biowaste jokes/taunts are part of what you do!) You cannot justify "adult" actions in a game which can be played by children. Keep it safe out there, unless it's with a cannon.
Swearing is the height of bad manners.
Blowing up a wanted commander is not. Its part of the game.
Now I have a minimum limit of 1000 credits bounty before I attack someone. That allows for the silly mistake of someone hitting the wrong ship by accident. Anything over 1000 credits you are fair game.
So, to go back to the original post, I would not have attacked him because he probably just shot the wrong ship by mistake. But calling you names is bad manners.
Glad you all made up!
Blowing up a wanted commander is not. Its part of the game.
Now I have a minimum limit of 1000 credits bounty before I attack someone. That allows for the silly mistake of someone hitting the wrong ship by accident. Anything over 1000 credits you are fair game.
So, to go back to the original post, I would not have attacked him because he probably just shot the wrong ship by mistake. But calling you names is bad manners.
Glad you all made up!
Yes, this. Resorting to swearing in a hostile context just shows that you've lost your cool.
From my years playing EVE, I quickly learned that you can really get someone mad by remaining calm and polite in the face of abuse.
When someone's mad, they don't think straight and they're easier to out-think and out-play