Elite PS4

[Beachlight7]

Can there be any real expectation that it bombs, is there that much lack of confidence in the industry? A lot of money has already been put in by private backers.
When ED does announce it will be interesting to see how quick SC jumps in reaction.

 

[Zieman]

If the PC game is a success, then it's entirely up to Frontier whether they make console versions or not. The same argument goes for a Linux version.

What do you mean, if ?!?
Please, have some faith (in my eyes E: D is already a success).

 

[Beachlight7]

We all know a space trading combat game is good, it can't fail unless the engine they use is not good enough to do what is expected of them. I dont know anything about the engine though, only it's called cobra and is scalable, whatever that means in context.
Could the on-line aspect be a weakness? Or untested on massive global scale so a reason why there maybe still doubt?

 

[Shishakli]

a reason why there maybe still doubt?

If anything, marketing and exposure seem to be a problem.

 

[Beachlight7]

If anything, marketing and exposure seem to be a problem.

Maybe, that would fix itself if the game was great though and it had expected glowing reviews. A free demo would clinch it.
I don't know if it applies in the PC market but for consoles there is this weird and annoying statistical rule that developers use, it simply states that game sales are higher if a demo is not provided to customers. A business practice that does nothing for customer relations.

 

[Memnoch]

...it simply states that game sales are higher if a demo is not provided to customers. A business practice that does nothing for customer relations.

Yeah, that is a terrible decision. But its far harder to just stop making crappy games so it's simpler to just lie to your customers and tease them with pointless pre-order fluff.

 

[Calebe]

Here is a scenario that goes like this. Just to play devil's advocate. There will be no announcement for any consoles till they say when the Mac version will come out as that was a stated goal. As of now we only know 3 months after release, and release date not announced so that comes first.

Now to the point BL7 will hate but possible. Frontier has an on going relationship with Microsoft, so perhaps there is a deal where Elite comes to the X-Box as the only console port that will be done. As Microsoft has a network the console gamers stay in their world and the PC gamers in theirs. So the upgrades for the PC can come at anytime without worry about the console. Sure that leaves the PS4 people out, but that is not unique. Halo is an X-Box exclusive so could this. With the adamant pushing by BL7 for a console port this solves it. Sure he won't be able to use his chosen platform, but hey it is on a console, and the game tweaked to run best on the X-Box.

After all why should the X-Box people suffer when it could be the Sony supporters? Oh wait are you saying put it on both? Why? As it is now a lot of people would like to play some PS3 games and X-box 360's ones for years, but as you know they were exclusive to their consoles, pc gamers had to deal with it. Well turn about as they say is fair play.

Calebe

 

[Aewarin Jameson]

and I'd rather see E: D running on my toaster before a PS4 now...

Will you support single slice toasting machines ?

When I bought mine the deluxe 6 slot machines were out my price range so I could only get the one, and the manufacturer has yet to release an add-on extention module to increase that number.

 

[Beachlight7]

Here is a scenario that goes like this. Just to play devil's advocate. There will be no announcement for any consoles till they say when the Mac version will come out as that was a stated goal. As of now we only know 3 months after release, and release date not announced so that comes first.

Now to the point BL7 will hate but possible. Frontier has an on going relationship with Microsoft, so perhaps there is a deal where Elite comes to the X-Box as the only console port that will be done. As Microsoft has a network the console gamers stay in their world and the PC gamers in theirs. So the upgrades for the PC can come at anytime without worry about the console. Sure that leaves the PS4 people out, but that is not unique. Halo is an X-Box exclusive so could this. With the adamant pushing by BL7 for a console port this solves it. Sure he won't be able to use his chosen platform, but hey it is on a console, and the game tweaked to run best on the X-Box.

After all why should the X-Box people suffer when it could be the Sony supporters? Oh wait are you saying put it on both? Why? As it is now a lot of people would like to play some PS3 games and X-box 360's ones for years, but as you know they were exclusive to their consoles, pc gamers had to deal with it. Well turn about as they say is fair play.

Calebe

I doubt Frontier would choose to do a deal with a failed console design.

 

[SuperG]

I don't think frontier is with exclusives but I not exclude it. It will be windows mac. If going to consoles the xboxone and PS4 they might go for both. Or if the team is to small PS4 first because it now the easiest of the two to develop for. Then Xbox one wenn the tweake there engine around it 32MB ESRAM buffer. The Xbox360 and PS3 are still a huge target market. Could be done to. But because there very limited for specs so it would be a extreem reducing of the game you have on PC so might be bit to much reducing to port to.

Ports are done often in bad way but there are exception. With the right effort funds and platform gameplay tweaks it can be done right.

Often its lack of focus wenn the funds arent up to the task a all platforms at once release so no platform focus. Often the main target platform gets lucky the others not.

But focus release one at a time especialy for a small team is the first step to get a more focused result.

And with that because PC is already the main target it will not suffer from a port.

Also they have a lot to do and gamers demand clearity but to early promisis they cant commit to are much worse thing to do. So they don't make that desision right now. And from PR standpoint it the right thing to do.

 

[Steve O B Have]

Get back on topic please - this kind of behavior is doing no-one any favors. You've all had fair warning about playground tactics in the forums so don't be surprised when warnings and infractions turn up in your inboxes. Frankly if you are going to ignore someone, just do it, there's no need to advertise the fact.

 

[Beachlight7]

I don't think frontier is with exclusives but I not exclude it. It will be windows mac. If going to consoles the xboxone and PS4 they might go for both. Or if the team is to small PS4 first because it now the easiest of the two to develop for. Then Xbox one wenn the tweake there engine around it 32MB ESRAM buffer. The Xbox360 and PS3 are still a huge target market. Could be done to. But because there very limited for specs so it would be a extreem reducing of the game you have on PC so might be bit to much reducing to port to.

Ports are done often in bad way but there are exception. With the right effort funds and platform gameplay tweaks it can be done right.

Often its lack of focus wenn the funds arent up to the task a all platforms at once release so no platform focus. Often the main target platform gets lucky the others not.

But focus release one at a time especialy for a small team is the first step to get a more focused result.

And with that because PC is already the main target it will not suffer from a port.

Also they have a lot to do and gamers demand clearity but to early promisis they cant commit to are much worse thing to do. So they don't make that desision right now. And from PR standpoint it the right thing to do.

I get what you are saying, though I would say the Frontier team is not that small is it? How many staff are their currently?

 

[Asp Explorer]

I doubt Frontier would choose to do a deal with a failed console design.

What exactly about the Xbox One makes it a failed design? It does exactly what it's supposed to do - play console games, which is also exactly what the PS4 does.

It may not be as advanced as I would like it to be, but it's hardly a failure. The PS4 is no better. A bit disappointed with both of them to be honest. Both had to be replaced due to hardware failure, but after getting working units I'd say neither was a true failed design, but certainly not a massive step forward from the previous generation - at least from the games available so far, which have been a huge let-down.

 

[Beachlight7]

In itself not failure, but failed against it's direct competition, the PS4, which out of the box is 50% more powerful and is shown in the multi-platform titles launched so far, rendering about 50 to 60% more pixels and at the same time more consistent frame rates.

 

[Steve O B Have]

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