A Lavigny-Duval Current Preparation Status, stop Preping Vaka, prep Lutni

Hmmm.
I spoke too soon.
Only 4 expansion systems, not 6.
I didn't get any money yet either.

Bugs perhaps, who knows. I thought a maximum of 10 systems could be prepared?
 
Hmmm.
I spoke too soon.
Only 4 expansion systems, not 6.
I didn't get any money yet either.

Bugs perhaps, who knows. I thought a maximum of 10 systems could be prepared?

If we lost more fortification systems to undermining, our CC for this cycle would be smaller than predicted.

Did the whole cycle flip over, or did we just get a vote?
 
Hmmm.
I spoke too soon.
Only 4 expansion systems, not 6.
I didn't get any money yet either.

Bugs perhaps, who knows. I thought a maximum of 10 systems could be prepared?

This seems strange... let's have a close eye on it and prepare old screenshots, so we can file a bug report. I hope it's not a "It is correct according to the backround calculation, you just don't see it" thing.

I certainly hope the UI recognises the fortification/undermining states. Otherwise this would be another big joke.
 
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I think this highlights the importance of being organised. Carverda and Lutni should have been at the top to make sure we could expand to the most profitable systems. Lakluita is ok (not as good as Carverda or Lutni though), but the other three shouldn't have been in the top five.
 
Can someone put up a list of close undermining systems for those that want to go in and kill the other powers ships?

If we can coordinate an offensive and let others carry and move cargo, we can keep the other powers in defensive mode ...especially the ones that border our territory
 
Please all feel free to copypasta the document.

If someone could make a new thread that would be great as well, as I'm on my way to work this minute :)
 
Go go guys,

If beta is anything to judge by, it is important to get the desired systems quickly into the top ten so players who do not see the forums can just pick them out from the top 10 list :)

Good luck.

btw. I was sure the cycle tick was tomorrow so I haven't even pledged yet. :p
 
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Ha, same here. From the list in the spreadsheet I would choose Mudhrid, because of the funny name and it's near my starting system.
 
Find in the link below an initial list of Preparation Candidates for Cycle 2.

Discussion, scrutiny and further input are now invited:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/...kD-2DnQczoSeZZyRrUZN21o/edit?usp=docslist_api

Things of Note, before this thread bites the dust.

Patreus somehow got to expand into Vaka. I didn't see the last minute maths on his other systems, but that really doesn't make sense.

Whatever, that is the situation.

If EDC wants to control Vaka and the support of Fergal and myself (and possibly Lavigny's Legion from reddit, though don't quote me on that), y'all will have to spearhead undermining his expansion starting now. You will have to totally overwhelm his expansion, which means interdicting his supply ships and stealing Field Supplies, not ship destruction. While you are at it, if you can, prepare Udihikoja if the game allows you. Preparing Udihikoja is utterly pointless if we cannot totally undermine his expansion. If it looks good, some of us may help out on preparation after we fortify and figure out the rest of the strategy. Good Luck.

The rest of us, fortify, fortify, fortify, but do not go over 100%. If you prefer the Crime Sweeps, get started as soon as you can, because we've got 4 systems to expand into, and two of them are on the end of Torval space. In the Crime Sweeps, do go over 100%, but try not to be too wasteful. Huzzah!

Now, what's next?
 
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I think that Avrils power could not afford vaka as it was too far down the list. So it went to the power that held the next most votes. Either that or they pumped serious merits into it just before week expired.

So much for the 100's of millions that The Elite group pumped into it..Its lost to them for good now. All they can do (at a lot more expense) is to stop it expanding or to undermine it if it does expand. But it is lost as a bounty hunting paradise for them. As denton is not combat focused. If the people that really want it as home are serious they can defect to Denton... Congratz to the members of Avrils power that stopped a stupid selfish action by a small group of players who were not working in your powers best interest.
 
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I think that Avrils power could not afford vaka as it was too far down the list. So it went to the power that held the next most votes. Either that or they pumped serious merits into it just before week expired.

So much for the 100's of millions that The Elite group pumped into it..Its lost to them for good now. All they can do (at a lot more expense) is to stop it expanding or to undermine it if it does expand. But it is lost as a bounty hunting paradise for them. As denton is not combat focused. If the people that really want it as home are serious they can defect to Denton... Congratz to the members of Avrils power that stopped a stupid selfish action by a small group of players who were not working in your powers best interest.

It was 6th on Patreus's list!

Here is the thing that could have happened: We had the most data, we couldn't afford to expand there, because the 'projected earnings' includes the supposition that all of our fortifications are successful and not nullified. I believe we had 4 fortifications nullified. So we didn't get the option.

He had four other choices in front of it, he was beaten out on all of those preparations, and they were his best. I don't remember the systems, so I don't know who beat him. He got to expand in Vaka because nobody else could.

That said, it is still not 'lost' now. Expansion is not a foregone conclusion. Honestly, if we were tactical thinkers, we would let it abide and save that battle for later.

If we were stubborn and could command, cajole, or inspire people to our cause, one could coordinate undermining of Patreus's expansion. For Imperials, that is stealing cargo, and necessarily earning a bounty on your head in Vaka. For any Alliance, Indies, or Feds who happen to be in that system for some random group that everyone likes... They get to earn 15 merits towards undermining by destroying Imperial Supply ships. That is a horrible thing to do and you will get the higher bounty for doing it. No Imperial should relish the thought of lonely space truckers getting blown up for carrying supplies for a megalomaniacal senator.

I cannot support this course of action.

It is Senator Patreus's responsibility to expand into Vaka while keeping its people and traders safe. What anyone else there, be they EDC or not, is up to them.
 
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What this shows is that we need to stop picking fights. Work on systems near other powers only when we have to, and look to expand around them rather than in to them.
 
CommanderRyder;2379265 Vaka has been our home since first Beta said:
Get over it..you lost it to Denton. It will never be owned by another power . All they can do is prevent expansion or undermine it. And Im sure denton will put up a fight if that happens so more resources wasted on a lost cause that you could use to help the power you currently support (Unless yo defect to Denton but you are all pro fighters it seems ..thats your dilemma).

Oh and I also saw that some guys there that are real that they lost Vaka now threaten to undermine ADL and seem to be seeking support to sabotage ADL from within..Ya real nice guys.
 
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