Post on the forum explaining why it was a bad idea. Not try to compel others to ruin people's time in some childish act of a temper tantrum.
Piracy is Broken by 1.3
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Post on the forum explaining why it was a bad idea. Not try to compel others to ruin people's time in some childish act of a temper tantrum.
That's what we've been doing for the last 3 weeks since beta and FD said it's "by design". They didn't even put it in the patch notes.
Piracy is completely broken now so what do you suggest we do?
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Hah... this is why I find people's inability to extrapolate without focusing completely on the specifics quite regrettable...
Allow me to spoon-feed:
Piracy in-game is a profession equivalent to that of trading, mining, exploring, smuggling, and bounty hunting. In real-life it is considered an illegal act that is outside of law by the perspective of the established, majority morality.
The well-known sit-ins performed by civil right activists create an inconvenience for the white, dominant social power at the time. This is akin to us creating an inconvenience for the traders in-game (no, if you haven't noticed, killing them in game doesn't kill them in real life).
Piracy is an advocated profession within the Elite: Dangerous universe, advertised as a portion of the game which FD is responsible to see it being balanced and functional. Now look me in the eye and tell me the current state of piracy is functional.
Please do not jump the gun and try to read further than the literary and into the semantics instead.
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Piracy needs to cast fear into its prey, this can be considered a part of role play. It isn't a tantrum, more like a proper respond.
We are until next Saturday.
That's what FD have done with this fix for station dumping.
Also indiscriminately killing traders as a protest vote is supported by in game lore as seen in a lot of the piracy missions
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The issue is that, you see, good sir, our house got burned down by FD, and now we are trying to save it by creating a leak in the roof, if you get my drift...
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Precisely, thank you.Also indiscriminately killing traders as a protest vote is supported by in game lore as seen in a lot of the piracy missions
I think you can see a bit of an anti-player piracy attitude coming across in the power play - The only guy who vaguely resembles a pirate king is Archon Delaine, which forces all player pirates to either align with a pro-slavery boss or opt for a structured power. I think there are enough player pirates (and people who like having the player pirates there) to justify a pirate faction that allows for a variety of pirate types...a boss by all means, but with an anarchic feel that allows for a diverse range of role-playing
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I agree with that sentiment.
"We are until next Saturday."
Is next Saturday when this day of action is going to take place? You might want to advertise that fact otherwise people might not notice. How many people do you think will take part?
Is next Saturday when this day of action is going to take place? You might want to advertise that fact otherwise people might not notice. How many people do you think will take part?
You may want to consider a different color for your text. Unless you are doing it on purpose then please continue.
I think an operation this large will take more than this thread. I will be proposing a plan and submitting a report to my syndicate, then after that we will have to do some coordination with other groups. Thus there's quite a way from it being operational.
Sorry about that. I just use the default. What colour would you suggest I use instead?
Pirates on strike! I love it!
Most of the player pirates aren't even on the forum as they believe FD doesn't care about the role. This change means they're probably right.
Most of the pirates on the forum know other pirates in game and on reddit and GF here will be putting the word out to the player groups he knows.
Debating it on the forum is the main thing as it gives fd a clear signal that this change is wrong, that's why we're discussing it instead of jumping the gun and randomly shooting players up.
Yes, so how many people do you think will take part?
Another question, how will Joe Trader, who like 90+% of the game's players never comes near these forums, know that he has not been the victim of a random attack by some but instead has been a participant in a protest against a decision of the game's developers? Not totally hacking off the people you want to keep playing in open might be important to you.
One last thought, having had your day of action, what will you do if the developers refuse to give in to your demands?
FD really handled that fix very poorly; almost pure stupidity. Let me offer a workable solution: make station dumping a lethal crime, boom done. It was in earlier elite games too; no dumping in range of a station, same as the no-fire zone. Surely they could implement that?
FD ought to have included this change in their patch notes too. TRANSPARENCY, GUYS. This has been your problem since day one. And it has been one of the biggest complaints from users, too...
But to you pirates who are planning on "protesting" by killing traders, you won't sway FD, you'll just have a lot of people flying solo or joining Mobius. And tick off people who would otherwise probably agree with you that piracy is broken. IT's a poor move.
You're better off lobbying FD through a social media campaign IRL. Bad press, poor reviews for the game, etc. All of that will get things noticed much more effectively.
FD ought to have included this change in their patch notes too. TRANSPARENCY, GUYS. This has been your problem since day one. And it has been one of the biggest complaints from users, too...
But to you pirates who are planning on "protesting" by killing traders, you won't sway FD, you'll just have a lot of people flying solo or joining Mobius. And tick off people who would otherwise probably agree with you that piracy is broken. IT's a poor move.
You're better off lobbying FD through a social media campaign IRL. Bad press, poor reviews for the game, etc. All of that will get things noticed much more effectively.
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Knock off the condescension. My disagreement with your laughable analogy is not indicative of not comprehending it. You're wrong and advocating harmful actions against other players until FD gives into your threats. You aren't getting what you want so you're going to kick and scream until FD gives in. How inspiring.
Roleplay all you want. Don't come on to the forum and say that if FD doesn't change the game the way you want it you will purposefully act as disruptively as possible in-game until they acquiesce.
As with piracy we'll be dropping comms to whoever is interdicted as we do with piracy. Noone said it would be just a day either just that we will start on Saturday.
If they do decide to keep the "fix" then I'll turn to pure pking as a protest and that's just as valid as piracy and would actually be less effort than piracy.
If I can't roleplay a pirate as I have done I'll roleplay a protester as supported by the "kill trader" missions in game (protest your vote).
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Oh, it's fixed, I am happy once more.
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You see... I see some severe hypocrisy... the assertion of one's opinion to be right and the plain denial of another's reasoning by using the overrated phrase "you are wrong" is ... uh quite a cliche manifestation of one's incompetence in reasoning.
You see, you are expressing the exact arrogance you accuse me of having, it's called the confidence in asserting one's opinion. You are free to do so, and you indeed did. So I don't see what is "condescending" here other than potential self-pity as a result of lacking self-esteem. That, I cannot help you.
Okay... so players that combat log to spite piracy and whine about piracy in open on the forum are doing what precisely...?
At least we are roleplaying, what role does trader combat logging play, again?
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I never asserted you were wrong because you weren't capable of grasping what I was saying. That would be you. Additionally funny that you try to say you're not acting condescending in the same post you call someone incompetent. You have a serious attitude problem.
The rest of your post is a sad attempt at excusing bad behavior with other bad behavior. Pretty weak effort. Also, how is your post discussing the problems with piracy worthy of the forum, but others that have issue with it are whining? Weird how only your problems matter.
The rest of your post is a sad attempt at excusing bad behavior with other bad behavior. Pretty weak effort. Also, how is your post discussing the problems with piracy worthy of the forum, but others that have issue with it are whining? Weird how only your problems matter.
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It won't make any difference to me personally what you do (if I can't beat or runaway from a pirate I die anyway) but I can't help feeling that going down the route you intend will not end well.
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