PVP arena mode confirmed - xBox Trailer

There's no subscription for the Xbox version, you can play solo with a silver Xbox Live account. For open and group play you need a Gold Live account.

MIchael

Following up on this, does this mean CQC will have a vs. NPC component, whether it be to fill out teams or allow people using Solo Play to engage with it? Or will it be PvP only?
 

Michael Brookes

Game Director
just a quick question here.... If they can play with a silver xbox live account (I assume this to be a free account essentially) but can only play SOLO, then does that mean unless they upgrade to a gold account (I am assuming this is a subscription account) they won't be able to play the CQC content?

So essentially if they want to play in OPEN they need to have a gold account... Is this also going to happen in the windows PC version where we will be required to pay to play in open?

Oh nice looking trailer :D

Silver is a free account - as with other multiplayer titles on Xbox One you need to have a Gold Live account to play multiplayer. This does not affect the PC version.

Michael
 
CQC is PVP only.

Michael

Ah ha! Pandering to the PvP crowd i see! Look, look, everyone! Come and look at the violence inherent in the system! :D

Just kidding, can't wait to see it go live on PC and give it a whirl. try not to take too long about it, although presume MS have you tied to some sort of duration based agreement on this one.
 
So I almost never wade into these arguments as they rage, but what the hell!!!!


Q) Do I think we should have got CQC at the same time as XBOX?
A) Yes I do, but I realise that is quite naive in a world where a relatively small publisher is trying to get the title on the platform of a giant. FDEV will have had to sell a bit of their soul to get in there and they'll be hoping that they get a return on that bit of soul that lets them keep the team together financially and carry on building the game. Their stakeholders will want to see financial returns and growth and this move helps secure a future for the game for longer.
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That one thing that isn't true this generation, Sony and Microsoft are clamoring over each other to get exclusives onto their systems. There hasn't been a better time for small publishers to take these big guys for every penny they have and to force their original ideas on to consoles, even big publishers like EA are look to diversify their lineup away from pow pow and instant gratification, games like Unravel which has gain a bit of a following at E3.
 
6 month wait confirmed. It's insulting for FD to say it's to beta test the CQC module. It's not, it's a 6 month exclusivity deal. To do this with a kickstarted game is taking the micky, to claim it's to beta test it for our benefit is deceitful. If it was a true beta test it would last "As long as it has to" (remember than one FD???) it doesn't HAVE to last 6 months. It's been sold to Microsoft for 6 months worth of exclusivity, END OF STORY!

Anyone happy about being lied to? How are certain fans spinning this one? (got most of them on my ignore list, I think I'd get banned if I saw their defense of this one).

seriously...where does it say that?
The Close Quarters Championship or CQC is an instant team-based action in the Elite: Dangerous galaxy, debuting exclusively on Xbox One in July.
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The CQC will be exclusive for Xbox One until Holiday 2015, when it will come to PC and Mac.
so from that i understand that the xbone can test it at the beginning of july, while we get it at the end (thats where the summer holidays start in germany)
 
It says holiday 2015. I guess the *speculation* is that is December. But it could be closer to 5 months than 6 depending on July release date.
 
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It says holiday 2015. I guess the *speculation* is that is December. But it could be closer to 5 months than 6 depending on July release date.

so just crazytalk...
holidays (googled it):
summer holiday at the end of july
autumn at the end of october
winter around christmas
atleast thats for schools i guess...

so if it is in the work for a while now, and tested soon on xbone...why should there be a 6 month timespan in between until the beta arives on pc?
 
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seriously...where does it say that?
so from that i understand that the xbone can test it at the beginning of july, while we get it at the end (thats where the summer holidays start in germany)

"Holiday" for game companies normally means in time for US Thanksgiving, although as it's a European country it could mean in time for Christmas instead. If they meant June-July-August, they would have said "Summer".
 
Why do i have a feeling CQC is just a copy of Battle arena of Star citizen... SC did it to test things before the actual game... but what is its purpose in ED ?

Isn't it abvious? Prevent boredom.

The game in its PC form wouldn't be well recieved by Xbox reviews once they play for more than a few hours and hit that inch depth. Even most PC reviews agree it is marred by the of lack of content, unimaginitive missions, grinding gameplay, and insufficient diversity in the universe, particularly man made areas.
 
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"Holiday" for game companies normally means in time for US Thanksgiving, although as it's a European country it could mean in time for Christmas instead. If they meant June-July-August, they would have said "Summer".

by now we should know that FD sometimes is not the best when it comes to formulation...
they are also just human (i guess)
so who knows what they meant? i think it would be weird to have a 6 month gap between those two betas
 
Some more details about CQC:

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No mention of a Cobra and yet there is a Cobra in the trailer :S

from https://support.elitedangerous.com/kb/faq.php?id=147
Why, why, why do Frontier 'PR' choose to use an Americanism ('Holiday') rather than speaking plain English? Could it possibly be that they think that they are obfuscating, and that some people will not understand what they have been told? Really, guys, it is hard to imagine how your PR could be worse. Some (at least) of us are big boys and quite grown up. Straight talking is nearly always best.

6 month wait confirmed. It's insulting for FD to say it's to beta test the CQC module. It's not, it's a 6 month exclusivity deal. To do this with a kickstarted game is taking the micky, to claim it's to beta test it for our benefit is deceitful. If it was a true beta test it would last "As long as it has to" (remember than one FD???) it doesn't HAVE to last 6 months. It's been sold to Microsoft for 6 months worth of exclusivity, END OF STORY!

Anyone happy about being lied to? How are certain fans spinning this one? (got most of them on my ignore list, I think I'd get banned if I saw their defense of this one).
Given that I have no real interest in CQC, I am not agitated about the loss of the promised 'first go'. Nevertheless FD PR have made a pigs ear 'ole of this yet again. We knew there was going to an XBox version, and we knew there was going to be exclusive content. So why didn't they make a nice clear statement that "there will be exclusive content for the Xbox (and for the PS4 when that comes), but those are on-off exceptions to the PC getting it first". Again some (at least) of us are big boys and quite grown up. Straight talking is nearly always best. Letting it come out in dribs and drabs, in a manner where not everyone sees it, so there is more outrage everytims another group stumbles across the information, is just stupid.

Where does it say 6 month wait?

Edit: sorry misread office blurb. Could be 5 months though ;)

It says holiday 2015. I guess the *speculation* is that is December. But it could be closer to 5 months than 6 depending on July release date.
We should read it as 'for Christmas'. It thus could be Nov or Dec - does it really matter at the moment? It is months away. Presumably the deal with Microsoft was for a 6 month exclusivity, but we don't really know when the clock started ticking. Again, does it really matter (other than, again, wouldn't it have been easier just to state when the exclusivity deal ended? Some (at least) of us are big boys and quite grown up. Straight talking is nearly always best.

Have I said that straight talking is nearly always best?

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"Holiday" for game companies normally means in time for US Thanksgiving, although as it's a European country it could mean in time for Christmas instead. If they meant June-July-August, they would have said "Summer".

If they meant June or July or August, they should have said, you know, June or July or August. It is a deliberate attempt to obfuscate (even if it will be clear to the Americans). FD's PR is truly awful. They have not got a clue.
 
Well "Holiday" is American for Christmas as someone pointed out. Though there are other American holidays prior to then.

Perhaps someone at FD would be kind enough to confirm so the full backlash may begin in earnest!

I agree with the post upthread that suggests FD have probably got their hands tied on this one - let's be realistic they aren't the senior partner in FD/MS negotiations.

Does seem a shame though that most of the dedicated PVPers - who would probably welcome this with open arms and many of them are beta backers - have to wait till then end of the year - if that is indeed the case..
 
Well "Holiday" is American for Christmas as someone pointed out. Though there are other American holidays prior to then.

Perhaps someone at FD would be kind enough to confirm so the full backlash may begin in earnest!

I agree with the post upthread that suggests FD have probably got their hands tied on this one - let's be realistic they aren't the senior partner in FD/MS negotiations.

Does seem a shame though that most of the dedicated PVPers - who would probably welcome this with open arms and many of them are beta backers - have to wait till then end of the year - if that is indeed the case..

Yeah, I really want to know if I will have to wait until christmas for CQC or if it will come sooner. Holiday is a very vague term.
 
On the bright side, maybe 6 months will be enough for them to find and kill most of the bugs and avoid the kind of fiasco the PP release was from our point of view (I say "our point of view" because I doubt it was a fiasco from theirs as they just don't seem to give a... er to care).
 
So it's Carmageddon... in space? Eagle and Type-9 in a race, better get out of way or you'll be pancakes.

Looks great. And if it gets around insurance when you're killed then even better. No more combat loggers, well, less of them.

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Sorry, could not resist. :p
 
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On the bright side, maybe 6 months will be enough for them to find and kill most of the bugs and avoid the kind of fiasco the PP release was from our point of view (I say "our point of view" because I doubt it was a fiasco from theirs as they just don't seem to give a... er to care).

I am willing to bet that the majority of the development team care passionately, and that many of them argued that PP was not good to go.
 
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