Ruined Open? It is optional, fully OPTIONAL. If it's not something you like to pledge allegiance to a Power. How hard is that?
The Powerplay discussion thread.
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Just realize about the only systems of the game fully thought out are the flight systems.
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Beyond that, in the game world, everything else is just bull decisions by a rookie dev team that if they are accidentally solved, its because another rookie dev group implemented another new system that accidentally solved that problem but created 3 more. They remind me a lot of Sony Online Entertainment where with EQ1 you had a solid combat and spell system for grouping/killing big mobs... and the rest of the game world stunk to high heaven causing massive strife that years later was reclassified as being 'the good old days'. No.. it was just a company who couldn't really do game development well. And when a company came along that had their stuff together (Blizzard), they promptly got their ass handed to them. I have to imagine one of the myriad of competitors out there(Star Citizen, No Man's Sky, etc) will do the same to Frontier.
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But Welcome to ELITE DANGEROUS. Remember to click that SOLO button, sacrifice a Sidewinder if you get a Wanted tag, and in general learn to repetitiously waste your life flying between two stations until you die of boredom.
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Game Development simply isn't Frontier's speciality(keep in mind they can't even adjust their forums properly to allow people to make paragraphs). Making realistic space simulators are. Some people can overlook the former and try to make justifications... while if they stay, its largely for the latter.
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Beyond that, in the game world, everything else is just bull decisions by a rookie dev team that if they are accidentally solved, its because another rookie dev group implemented another new system that accidentally solved that problem but created 3 more. They remind me a lot of Sony Online Entertainment where with EQ1 you had a solid combat and spell system for grouping/killing big mobs... and the rest of the game world stunk to high heaven causing massive strife that years later was reclassified as being 'the good old days'. No.. it was just a company who couldn't really do game development well. And when a company came along that had their stuff together (Blizzard), they promptly got their ass handed to them. I have to imagine one of the myriad of competitors out there(Star Citizen, No Man's Sky, etc) will do the same to Frontier.
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But Welcome to ELITE DANGEROUS. Remember to click that SOLO button, sacrifice a Sidewinder if you get a Wanted tag, and in general learn to repetitiously waste your life flying between two stations until you die of boredom.
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Game Development simply isn't Frontier's speciality(keep in mind they can't even adjust their forums properly to allow people to make paragraphs). Making realistic space simulators are. Some people can overlook the former and try to make justifications... while if they stay, its largely for the latter.
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Regardless of who is correct phases like this are just not polite.
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Also, so much attitude, this is supposed to be a civil forum community.
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i feel your pain OP - i remember when i entered my first high conflict zone in the early days - no idea what was going on but so much action all around me. it was amazing! I decided to target an npc and join in the fun...whoah! was that ever a bad move! i learned the hard way but it was a good learning experience.
i also recall the first time i was killed by another CMDR due to my friendly fire in a RES - i had the mother of all hissy fits and swore i would never play in Open and would stick to Solo. but once the feeling of injustice subsides, you soon realise that its all due to inexperience.
Elite can be unforgiving at times, but that's what made it (pre PP) such an awesome experience. Perhaps go Solo for a while but hang in there CMDR - we have all felt the sting of an 'injustice' but that's what makes us better pilots.
i also recall the first time i was killed by another CMDR due to my friendly fire in a RES - i had the mother of all hissy fits and swore i would never play in Open and would stick to Solo. but once the feeling of injustice subsides, you soon realise that its all due to inexperience.
Elite can be unforgiving at times, but that's what made it (pre PP) such an awesome experience. Perhaps go Solo for a while but hang in there CMDR - we have all felt the sting of an 'injustice' but that's what makes us better pilots.
It is fair to expect instructions to be clear.
If you are PvP orientated and have such experience then naturally you would be predisposed to understanding that there is likely to be increased threat/risk. If however a player is not, and indeed has been away for a bit, and is still expecting ED to be merrily sticking to it's quite friendly multiplayer orientation at launch then yes, I would expect instructions to state this change of stance in PP.
Loving the aggression here.
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Slowly it rather feels like a whiny "mum, he killed me, tell him not to do it!"-community!
Every time i look at the forums and expect to find maybe some threads about... whatever... tactical gameplay, what new has been discovered, progress of a power, ... the forum is overvelmed by whiny "I got killed and it's the worst game of the world"-threads followed by "FD is the worst game dev in the world" and "I will never ever again turn on my computer, because of the psychical damage ED did to me"
Plz FD, maybe you can make an "CMDR Whiny"-section on the forumsd for those, who have suicidal tendencies because of the injustice they experienced in the game...
This is a polite, civil community - the first 1,000 times we explain to people to read the game information BEFORE doing anything. But everyone has a limit on how many times they say "poor baby, there there" before they snap and fall back on very short answers.
If someone jumps in to a game without doing a single ounce of reading up on what things do (FD even supply YouTube videos to make it really easy to learn) - then, they deserve what they get.
Oh, and the OP failed to understand, getting killed by a CMDR in Open, may have nothing to do with Power Play at all. PvP has always been in Open Mode regardless of its reasons. So there is a fail of even the basic understanding of Elite: Dangerous and what it is.
@OP Next time, try a PvE private group or Solo Mode.
Rubber gloves on.
Hits ignore.
Removes gloves.
Incinerates.
Username is apt.
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To the OP. Listen, we all have had that sinking feeling if pain when another player shoots you down and you start realizing,... Man, I was just beat, and this is going to hurt.
It hurts. It does. And THAT is what makes it Elite DANGEROUS and Elite Exciting for mang of us.
My friend, it is completely optional. If you can't hang and need a hug, dude, chill in solo.
Troublemaker gers a bad wrap above because he calls these types of players out as a care bear.
Dude, don't walk into a casino and lose a few hands at blackjack and then call momma and cry. Play online with fake money, aka solo, if it's too risky for you.
For many of US, open and the thrill of competition and combat is the only reason we play. And gamble, and play sports, and complete, and put our best out there in any competitive environment to see how we perform.
Did it ever cross your mind that you could tough it out in the pvp environment of open and make it a personal ENJOYABLE goal TO build up, train, make a list of all your enemies, and have fun trying to shoot them down with your battle hardened skulls down the road?
Gasp, it's fun for many of us!
Stick to solo my man. Everyone in ED can play as they wish.
It hurts. It does. And THAT is what makes it Elite DANGEROUS and Elite Exciting for mang of us.
My friend, it is completely optional. If you can't hang and need a hug, dude, chill in solo.
Troublemaker gers a bad wrap above because he calls these types of players out as a care bear.
Dude, don't walk into a casino and lose a few hands at blackjack and then call momma and cry. Play online with fake money, aka solo, if it's too risky for you.
For many of US, open and the thrill of competition and combat is the only reason we play. And gamble, and play sports, and complete, and put our best out there in any competitive environment to see how we perform.
Did it ever cross your mind that you could tough it out in the pvp environment of open and make it a personal ENJOYABLE goal TO build up, train, make a list of all your enemies, and have fun trying to shoot them down with your battle hardened skulls down the road?
Gasp, it's fun for many of us!
Stick to solo my man. Everyone in ED can play as they wish.
No, sorry but some of the posts on here cross the boundary and are abusive.
It's called read the power play notes, "But for me the best reward is how Powerplay changes combat," Lead Designer Sandro Sammarco says. "The Pilots Federation waives all penalties for engaging invaders in combat during times of war, so you'll have license to attack anyone from a rival power in your own territory without incurring a bounty. We're giving players a reason to engage in PVP against supporters of other factions, and a chance to feel like part of a team even if you prefer to play alone."
It's here for starters in the announcement of PP in newsletter 72.
I admit I don't see it in the manual but as I have an annoying habit of wanting to know what I'm getting into I tend to read up on things, how dare I be so prepared.
If you want to put your arm around everyone and say there, there don't worry about those nasty people, keep doing what you're doing, keep taking on new ventures without understanding possible consequences, look before you leap so to speak, then far be it for me or anyone else to stop you but I'm not made that way, the world isn't made that way and Elite Dangerous is certainly not made that way.
I don't sugarcoat things, I've no problem with the OP doing what he did, he'll learn the hard way but I do have an issue with him posting a thread blaming FD and everyone else when the blame lies squarely at his feet.
Well, there is a "Report" button for any post(s) you are unhappy about.
If I recall, the general rule is ~ do not respond to it, report it and pop in why you're reporting it in the box.
Let the Mods decide - that is what they are there for.
You also have a personal ignore list
To be fair, the manual has managed to confuse almost everybody about, for example, merit decay, which in the end seems to work in a way which doesn't resemble the description in the manual in the slightest. That's beside the point though, as is the "what did you expect?" flavour of response to threads like this. Good game design allows you to learn organically, without spending ages reading PDFs on the internet. Good game design encourages you to experiment, and introduces risks in a controlled way, such that the player knows they're taking them. Instead of jumping to FD's defence and lambasting posters like this, a better approach is to ask "what can we learn". There probably is scope for more guided experimentation here, in a way which prevents the player from unwittingly risking death within the first 5 minutes of signing up.
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I tend to agree....there should be a big warning stipulating the risks as you click the pledge button. That would be an easy fix.
Is Milton Keynes that dodgy? I've been running round there alone several times when staying over on business and survived unharmed!
There are four tutorial videos FD did which explain things really well and you can check them out on their youtube channel. When you select to pledge to a power it does give a legit reason for those in another one to consider you an enemy and attack you, although Fed on Fed and Empire on Empire is discouraged. I think it gives a bit more meaning to PvP but nevertheless even if you don't have a faction people can still attack you for 'no reason'.
However maybe Open isn't for you..Elite Dangerou..and all that. I wish they would remove solo and p/g its ruining the game in my view. Ultimately we all lose ships from time to time, its part of the game
It is 2015. The world of gaming has changed since the 80ies. Nobody reads manuals anymore. Nobody alt+tabs into a browser to watch some video tutorial before playing the actual game. If FD got anything wrong it is the tutorial side of the game. Barely anything of importance is explained. Many detailed descriptions missing in the game (e.g. stats of modules and their workings). Basically if anything new pops up in this game I will go into the Forums and check for the whiners' Posts - because they safe me from suffering the same fate. Do you think that this is modern game design? I don't. But I accepted it and deal with it to an extend. But I totally understand the OP.
