Dear FDev

I can't help you if you are going to be wilfully blind.....
And I can't help you if you're going to ignore something said by someone who's been on this forum a lot longer than most and has seen what's been discussed from the first day of the kickstarter.

And I wonder why they wont open a shop to sell the SHIPS!.....???.........
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Because people cry out "Pay to Win....Whaaaaaa".....yet, YOU say the game is not competitive......lollol.
Because Frontier are not following Star Citizen's business model.
And it's not competitive, regardless of what sarcastic comment you think of next. Maybe CQC will be competitive, but it's designed to be. The main game is designed to not be competitive. Disagree with me? Fine, take it up with Michael Brookes.
 
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You'll know, if you've been hanging around the forums, that there's a thread dedicated to discussions on the Solo vs Open vs Group debate - further discussions on the game modes should be conducted there lest this thread be merged / closed accordingly.

.... and you forgot a "possibly" after "would" - no-one knows what would definitely satisfy both sides of this debate.

We must face it, for real.........this is a REAL DEAL "Catch-22"......for you true SciFi Nerds out there, think of the Kobayashi Maru........there is no "win" on this one. FD have painted themselves in to a corner.......
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I think ED will go down in the history books as a beautiful technical achievement let down by poor game design decisions.....and the Solo/Open thing will be a lesson to games studios around the world for YEARS to come............utterly boneheaded move..... The Single Player Multiplayer game.......what were they thinking???? I mean, can you imagine??>#
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"""""NEW FROM EA....Battlefield 5 now with Solo/Open........Tired of getting shot by other people but you really like capping flags? No problem, now, while others are getting shot to hell in open mode, you can go invisible, and capture the flags without worry and no one can stop you..............""""" WHHHAAAT?..........
 
Yeah, CQC is like small island in ED where you can be competitive. It's built around this idea. It also good decision business wise - people sometimes want quickie hull smashing against other players, no strings attached.

However ED itself will stay this slow burn, strategic scope with heavy leaning towards PvE.
 
And I can't help you if you're going to ignore something said by someone who's been on this forum a lot longer than most and has seen what's been discussed from the first day of the kickstarter.


Because Frontier are not following Star Citizen's business model.
And it's not competitive, regardless of what sarcastic comment you think of next. Maybe CQC will be competitive, but it's designed to be. The main game is designed to not be competitive. Disagree with me? Fine, take it up with Michael Brookes.

"And it's not competitive, regardless of what sarcastic comment you think of next. Maybe CQC will be competitive, but it's designed to be."
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Thanks for proving my point buddy, much appreciated....glad you agree with me. It IS a competitive game, both you and FD think so....cheers.......
 
We must face it, for real.........this is a REAL DEAL "Catch-22"......for you true SciFi Nerds out there, think of the Kobayashi Maru........there is no "win" on this one. FD have painted themselves in to a corner.......
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I think ED will go down in the history books as a beautiful technical achievement let down by poor game design decisions.....and the Solo/Open thing will be a lesson to games studios around the world for YEARS to come............utterly boneheaded move..... The Single Player Multiplayer game.......what were they thinking???? I mean, can you imagine??>#
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"""""NEW FROM EA....Battlefield 5 now with Solo/Open........Tired of getting shot by other people but you really like capping flags? No problem, now, while others are getting shot to hell in open mode, you can go invisible, and capture the flags without worry and no one can stop you..............""""" WHHHAAAT?..........

I suggest you contact CIG, as they plan to make similar design into Star Citizen - or so I heard (PvP slider is basically similar construct). Stop them before it's too late and your prediction turn out wrong! :)

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"And it's not competitive, regardless of what sarcastic comment you think of next. Maybe CQC will be competitive, but it's designed to be."
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Thanks for proving my point buddy, much appreciated....glad you agree with me. It IS a competitive game, both you and FD think so....cheers.......

Small mode CQC is competitive - in big ED which is not competitive.
 
We must face it, for real.........this is a REAL DEAL "Catch-22"......for you true SciFi Nerds out there, think of the Kobayashi Maru........there is no "win" on this one. FD have painted themselves in to a corner.......
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I think ED will go down in the history books as a beautiful technical achievement let down by poor game design decisions.....and the Solo/Open thing will be a lesson to games studios around the world for YEARS to come............utterly boneheaded move..... The Single Player Multiplayer game.......what were they thinking???? I mean, can you imagine??>#
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"""""NEW FROM EA....Battlefield 5 now with Solo/Open........Tired of getting shot by other people but you really like capping flags? No problem, now, while others are getting shot to hell in open mode, you can go invisible, and capture the flags without worry and no one can stop you..............""""" WHHHAAAT?..........

whats wrong with you?
 
"And it's not competitive, regardless of what sarcastic comment you think of next. Maybe CQC will be competitive, but it's designed to be."
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Thanks for proving my point buddy, much appreciated....glad you agree with me. It IS a competitive game, both you and FD think so....cheers.......
"And it's not competitive" = "It IS a competitive game, both you and FD think so" .... k thank you for proving how little you know.
 
Two words - emergent gameplay. Some people look for competition with other people for all their lives. This game clearly defines it as not mandatory. Some people wish it did.

The tone of people wanting solo forced into open is not normally very polite. It might be a factor in why solo players prefer it that way.

ED is quite a 'mature' game. A lot of OP's comments are echoed on this board by players who sound like the problem is this game is not for them.
 
The tone of people wanting solo forced into open is not normally very polite. It might be a factor in why solo players prefer it that way.

ED is quite a 'mature' game. A lot of OP's comments are echoed on this board by players who sound like the problem is this game is not for them.
Repped for being a mature sensible reply
 
The OP is just another attempt at turning Elite into 'Eve from a cockpit'. I just hope this gets all the attention it deserves..... none. These outburst are just getting old.
 

Nonya

Banned
Braben has already told the world that player interaction and PvP would be "rare" in the Elite: Dangerous universe, so don't expect anything to be done to differ from that "vision".

No worries though, when No Man's Sky releases I think a large portion of the player base will jump ship to that and then eventually wind up in Star Citizen when it eventually releases.
 
The tone of people wanting solo forced into open is not normally very polite. It might be a factor in why solo players prefer it that way.

ED is quite a 'mature' game. A lot of OP's comments are echoed on this board by players who sound like the problem is this game is not for them.
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You mean it is a game for older people? You think they will put that in the Xbox adverstising? "Elite DANGEROUS: The slow, quiet, mature game, with no competition ......... the sort of thing you can do with a glass of wine while watching the TV or listening to the radio....".......
 
The OP is just another attempt at turning Elite into 'Eve from a cockpit'. I just hope this gets all the attention it deserves..... none. These outburst are just getting old.

to be fair if this game was "eve from a cockpit" it would probably be one of the best money making games in history, eve has a lot of content which is also dynamic and emergant because of the human factor, but the point and click nature aren't very exciting
 
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Braben has already told the world that player interaction and PvP would be "rare" in the Elite: Dangerous universe, so don't expect anything to be done to differ from that "vision".

No worries though, when No Man's Sky releases I think a large portion of the player base will jump ship to that and then eventually wind up in Star Citizen when it eventually releases.

NMS is single player game and has no MMO like structure as ED does. It also has MP similar to Dark Souls.
 

Robert Maynard

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to be fair if this game was "eve from a cockpit" it would probably be one of the best money making games in history, eve has a lot of content which is also dynamic and emergant because of the human factor, but the point and click nature aren't very exciting

Presumably that would be up to CCP to develop as EVE is their IP....
 
to be fair if this game was "eve from a cockpit" it would probably be one of the best money making games in history, eve has a lot of content which is also dynamic and emergant because of the human factor, but the point and click nature aren't very exciting

Similar to Star Citizen, this is assuming that lot of things works as they should. It would end up like X series just with EvE like universe with only humans...it would be interesting, but best money making games? There still would be grind parts, and there would be lot of clicking too.
 
to be fair if this game was "eve from a cockpit" it would probably be one of the best money making games in history, eve has a lot of content which is also dynamic and emergant because of the human factor, but the point and click nature aren't very exciting
EvE the online game, I have no problem with. I've not played it myself, but I am sure it is a good game. To survive as long as it has against the likes of World Of Warcraft, it must be doing something right.

EvE players however ... they don't have a good reputation (justified or not) and have tried to invade other space games and influence development. That is something I am against. So to any EvE players here on this forum: If you're here to enjoy Elite Dangerous for what it is and let Frontier develop it how they want to, great ...
 
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It's not competitive in a way that you go hull verus hull. It's more strategic like competition. It's not pure combat PvP like EvE for example.
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Pure combat, EvE? What? Sir, have you any idea how far off from the truth this statement is? EvE has... stop, let not go there...well, a lot, please use games you have experience with for examples and lets not use that particular three letter game, its got too much on ED and anyone who played it finds these kinds of remarks, honestly, ignorant.
PP isn't too far a throw from some of that games available modes of conflict, although here it is NPC problems mostly.
EvE players is just another word for gamer, mates. :)
 
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