Aha - thanks for that - If its no longer canon it seems odd that its in a mission tho. What happens if you take a UA there? You needed to be elite explorer to accept...and I'm not
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Aha - thanks for that - If its no longer canon it seems odd that its in a mission tho. What happens if you take a UA there? You needed to be elite explorer to accept...and I'm not
I am enthralled by the investigations you guys'n'girls have done, and are doing, and find the posivity so refreshing! It's the first thing I head for to catch up on when I have a spare minute or two.
However, if it proves that the spores, etc are "alien in origin" and turn out to be threatening to mankind, is it only me that finds it faintly worrying that we're transporting the UA over so much of our own space?
Not criticising, just saying ......
<RP>Has your ship been through quarantine procedures lately? How about your cargo, has that grain or Lavian Brnady been hit with a good dose of radiation? Or perhaps you're hauling slaves, whom I'm sure have all had their shots? No matter, I'm sure you haven't been to Volongu, Liaedin, LHS 3505, Furbaide, BD-02 4304 or any other outbreak system in your travels. Right?
Or perhaps you're not a hauler, maybe just a bounty hunter or mercenary who stays clear of such systems. Or mayhap a pirate? Certainly, all of those things are much cleaner & safer. After all, supporting Zachary Hudson, Senator Patreus or Archon Delaine certainly won't bring harm to all of humanity...
</RP>Of course, I'm grossly exaggerating. It's possible that the UA is something bad for all of us. But then so could be the Soontill Relics, the Sap-8 cores, Hafnium 178 is certainly deadly in high doses. We don't have the tools to know what these things do (other than GalNet posts). And FDev's said "They're coming." repeatedly, so it may not have much effect in the end.
TBH, I'd be happy to see ANY effect at this point, beyond slightly different Morse & color pulses. :/
Nice work. I'm finally back from holiday tonight, its been a fun distraction while I've been away, and I'll be back searching a bit tonight, and a bit tomorrow. I have an Isinor permit from the old days, if that helps. If anyone wants to wing up and farm SSS in Timocani (that's where I found one before) in Möbius pm me and I'll give you my commander name.
Edit: I'll be back about 2300 cest (GMT +2)
Edit: I'll be back about 2300 cest (GMT +2)
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Took the UA to Nanata & Oromecani tonight to record the Green/Purple pulses. Nanata is at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMaXK-P_U8o (overwhelmingly purple), Oromecani is at https://youtu.be/jMaXK-P_U8o?t=12m32s (almost even purple & green).
Went to Shinrarta but didn't record. Nothing special happened there.
Headed to Sol now. Will record the Green/Purple pulses, have a listen, check the stations (probably around Mars, since the Soontill samples were supposedly taken there). I'll also see if I can get the Voyagers to come out & play.
Went to Shinrarta but didn't record. Nothing special happened there.
Headed to Sol now. Will record the Green/Purple pulses, have a listen, check the stations (probably around Mars, since the Soontill samples were supposedly taken there). I'll also see if I can get the Voyagers to come out & play.
Aha - thanks for that - If its no longer canon it seems odd that its in a mission tho. What happens if you take a UA there? You needed to be elite explorer to accept...and I'm not
From all accounts of this mission, it's "just a mission", just like any other zero-cargo delivery mission. I can't verify this though, as I can't do them. Searching around the forums should yield someone who has done this before, I've definitely read a few cases. The destination isn't special; it's just randomised based on the usual procedural generation mechanics.
Yes, at least one of these has been allowed to decay outright.
It screams, explodes a puff of something and there is a flash of energy....
Ohhhhh,....
If we get another UA spare, can we try letting one decay in the presence of Hafnium 178, SAP8 Core Container and Painite?
I wonder if the "death blossom" is modified by having those items nearby when it goes bang.
On an aside, has anyone got/know where an actual video w/ audio of this happening is? All I can find is this gif...
http://i.imgur.com/X6FjMwf.gifv
Disregard: found it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKT6CVKclZg&t=2m25s
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Crikey mate... you and your buzzing...
Hang on... what's that lump on the side of your head... ... ... ... Oh my god... ... ... ... it's inside your head... one of those spores
Only kidding
A few more recordings for the pile.
* Mars - https://youtu.be/lSXPWcJst78
* Sirius - https://youtu.be/M9SKX5vz7Qo
* LHS 3006 - http://youtu.be/-Eo9PrSfwEQ
I spent a bunch of time flying around Sol, trying to see if I could find the Voyagers (to drop the UA near one of them). Unfortunately, even at over 1,000,000Ls away from Sol itself, no POIs for either Ancient Probe could be found. I don't know why I couldn't find them (used an Adv Disco, had found them previously/easily in 1.2.07).
And as you can see from the LHS 3006 video, there's doesn't appear to be any special behavior from the probe, even just 15Km from Leonard Nimoy Station. Nothing special on the Black Market, nor any special missions or anything. (Please, no commentary on the docking. Trying to smuggle in from the backside of a station & avoid scans is literally the worst & it's stupid-late here. I know the approach sucked.)
* Mars - https://youtu.be/lSXPWcJst78
* Sirius - https://youtu.be/M9SKX5vz7Qo
* LHS 3006 - http://youtu.be/-Eo9PrSfwEQ
I spent a bunch of time flying around Sol, trying to see if I could find the Voyagers (to drop the UA near one of them). Unfortunately, even at over 1,000,000Ls away from Sol itself, no POIs for either Ancient Probe could be found. I don't know why I couldn't find them (used an Adv Disco, had found them previously/easily in 1.2.07).
And as you can see from the LHS 3006 video, there's doesn't appear to be any special behavior from the probe, even just 15Km from Leonard Nimoy Station. Nothing special on the Black Market, nor any special missions or anything. (Please, no commentary on the docking. Trying to smuggle in from the backside of a station & avoid scans is literally the worst & it's stupid-late here. I know the approach sucked.)
If there are whale sounds and whatnot, I wonder if maybe it needs water or a habitable planet - has anyone tried dropping one in space next to a water world or earthlike? Just happened to be out exploring and I came across what I think is an earth-like, or at least a life bearing planet, when I zoomed in on the system map I heard a whale-like sound, got me thinking ;P
or perhaps ... an ammonia world
Tbh I've been thinking that a lot too lately. Makes whale like sounds so take it to a water planet. Or perhaps because it transmits morse code, and makes whale sounds, take it to a high tech system with a water planet.
I know one of the CMDRs who tried following the convoys followed one to FIONN, which is a high tech system. I'm wondering if there's a water planet there.
It kind of makes sense in relation to both clues, "have you listened to them" and the whole "you're thinking too hard" thing. If you're supposed to listen to them, but we've been over analysing the whole thing, a more simple break down of "listening" would note that the UA:
-Makes technological sounds
-Makes seemingly organic sounds
It's possible that combination is what is significant, and not what each one is individually conveying.
Big thanks to you and your helpers.
Lots of nice recordings.
I now think that the green lights on the pods are always the same. Two pods on the second row lights up.
Nice images of the litt "thorax markings".
To bad I don't know if they are Oressian or Kallaxian
I've just checked the Wiki and it appears two very simple tests may not have been attempted. Please could those already-busy darlings of the UA-possessing club consider:
1) Chaffing the UA. Perhaps it will confuse it long enough to force a response, either dropped into already present chaff or chaffed after dropping, or both? Since it is scanning, but quite possibly in a way not akin to our own standard systems, perhaps it scans in a manner which might be confused by chaff. Perhaps in the way that the previous (Wiki-noted) ECM test was done in the hope of prompting a response.
2) Coolant Purge in vicinity of UA. I have absolutely no reasoning behind this suggestion. I just noticed it was absent from the Wiki list of tests and figured it would be quick and comparatively painless just to eliminate it from the 'Possible (But Not Very)' list of potential response triggers.
1) Chaffing the UA. Perhaps it will confuse it long enough to force a response, either dropped into already present chaff or chaffed after dropping, or both? Since it is scanning, but quite possibly in a way not akin to our own standard systems, perhaps it scans in a manner which might be confused by chaff. Perhaps in the way that the previous (Wiki-noted) ECM test was done in the hope of prompting a response.
2) Coolant Purge in vicinity of UA. I have absolutely no reasoning behind this suggestion. I just noticed it was absent from the Wiki list of tests and figured it would be quick and comparatively painless just to eliminate it from the 'Possible (But Not Very)' list of potential response triggers.
1) I'm 90% sure chaff has been tested with no effect.
2) This is interesting. Not that I think popping a heat sink next to it would do anything.
Frosting the ship with the UA in the hold on the other hand could give some answers. Thargoids like it frosty.
Does it stop doing damage? Does it start doing something else.
@ Mrtree. Do you think the missing voyagers are due to a bug or have the been "removed" as an in-game event?
I've done that mission a few days ago, just to find out what it says afterward...
Laying out the mission
OBFUSCATED IN THE OUTER RIM
It's an honour to meet you Commander, your trips out into the black have become somewhat of a legend among pupils back at the Pilots academy.
I hope you don't think this too presumptuous... after all, I'm sure you've got plenty of your own expeditions already planned, but...
I recently came into possession of some rather interesting information, or well to be precise, Revolutionary Party of Nernets came into possession of said information, which they then passed on to me.
There are rumours, just rumours mind, that the residents of Nuenets have uncovered information about a certain celestial body. You know the one I mean. Place that isn't a place, door that is also the key. The myth.
It's probably nothing, but it's worth checking to be sure. Trouble is, Laliberte Enterprise is a long way off, and you know how the kids are, mostly aimless the lot of them.
Now if an experienced explorer was to head out there... well then, maybe, just maybe, we'd actually have a chance to figure out what's going on.
So what do you say Commander? Are you in?
ANSWERING THE CALL OF ADVENTURE
I never though I would live to see the day! I don't know where Revolutionary Party of Nuenets got those crystals from, but they're the real deal. It's too early to tell exactly what we've got here, but my gut tells me it's some kind of map.
All we need to do now is figure out the context of the coordinates.
Tell Revolutionary Party of Nuenets that I need more of these things if they want any real answers. It also wouldn't hurt to know where the Dark Wheel found them. Just knowing whether these things are human in origin would go a long way towards helping us decipher them.
This is why I think Unknown Artefacts, SAP8 Core Containers, Hafnium 178 and possibly Painite warrant investigation..
Painite is a rare crystalline mineral that fetches a hefty price on the commodities market. Demand is high, supply is very low.
SAP8 Core Containers have a foot long crystal suspended in a self-sustaining field. Breaking the field destroys the crystal (according to the item description).
Hafnium 178 is a unique nuclear isomer that appeared in-game at the same time as Painite and the UAs. It probably has a role as an energy source, or converting energy from another source.
Then you've got missions, like this one, saying that the crystals could be a map.
Crystals? Like Painite? Or the crystal in a SAP8 Core Container?
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Have we blown a Sap 8 up yet?
"This container holds a crystalline shard of unknown origin. Scans indicate that the foot long shard is suspended inside a modified, self-sustaining, fusion-core containment field. Any breach of the field will result in the containers destruction."
Description says a breach destroys the container, but what about the contents of the container?
"This container holds a crystalline shard of unknown origin. Scans indicate that the foot long shard is suspended inside a modified, self-sustaining, fusion-core containment field. Any breach of the field will result in the containers destruction."
Description says a breach destroys the container, but what about the contents of the container?
If there are whale sounds and whatnot, I wonder if maybe it needs water or a habitable planet - has anyone tried dropping one in space next to a water world or earthlike? Just happened to be out exploring and I came across what I think is an earth-like, or at least a life bearing planet, when I zoomed in on the system map I heard a whale-like sound, got me thinking ;P
or perhaps ... an ammonia world
I think I have done so by accident in my tests with my UA as I often have go very little distance from a station.
Wait so you can get in Isinor? Can you take someone with you? Or see what's going on there and try to expand the faction there?
Yes....I know I did think about turning off my fan but I didn't want to risk my computer fans going up to sounds which make me think they are about to fly away....Crikey mate... you and your buzzing...
Hang on... what's that lump on the side of your head... ... ... ... Oh my god... ... ... ... it's inside your head... one of those spores
Only kidding
Well I hope I did the tests you wanted doing :s I tried to find your post saying about it but it eluded me.....Big thanks to you and your helpers.
Lots of nice recordings.
I now think that the green lights on the pods are always the same. Two pods on the second row lights up.
Nice images of the litt "thorax markings".
To bad I don't know if they are Oressian or Kallaxian
I have made my ship freeze over a few times while having the UA to no effect but I haven't used a heat sink since......well never
Well you could just look at the recordings or the stream I did last night were we destroyed a few.....possibly....but there was nothing to look at after the container's destruction as with every other container...
Yeah, people could earn a permit there earlier - I snagged one too. Unfortunately, you can't take others who don't have the permit with you: if they try to wing up with you and jump after you, their jump will fail.
I'm not sure about expanding the factions in Isinor proper: there are no outposts or stations to dock at, so even if it's possible (through killing NPCs, for example) it would be tricky.
With LFT 509 and Witch's Reach, I believe nobody to date has managed to obtain a permit for either. I'm quite curious myself if you can get into WR if you have an UA on board. I wanted to try that myself, but I accidentally destroyed mine before I could get around to that. If you could try yourself, that'd be great. According to what Aeos posted earlier, you get a different error message when you try to jump there than when you try to jump into other restricted systems. (Although it could simply be that Federation-locked systems have different messages.)
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Well I think I'll wait around a bit for things to happen as Mrtree is doing a big test in of it'self right now or soon by looking for voyger....
Oh hum.....I did try to look closer at the blue lights that flew around the UA but they were just dissapering....
Aye morse near Voyager would be interesting (it's probably already been done).
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