Unknown Artefact (or artifact) Community Thread - The Canonn

[Eoran]

Youtube links to my view though I now hear buzzing in the background....: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XenMIkJWgxA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtqJTOgPrps https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgMvPQKK2QE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc9Zx1jMNw0

Hey guys first post here. I've been following the the thread for a while now. It's really great to see all the investigations / tests / etc going on

Just had a quick observation: ratking15's tests above are the first time I've heard the UA purrs occur in short groups of 3 or so for so many blocks in a row. In the recordings/videos I've listened to so far they're usually in groups of 5 or 6 (if you only include the clear purrs before the howl).

During part 1 above, when you can hear the UA clearly it's generating purrs in groups of 5 (counting clear purrs only), and then at around 7:30 into the first video they slow down to 3 and 2 purrs. This also continues from the start of the second separate UA drop (at 9:10) in part 2 (best heard in the blocks at 10:48 onward). I thought it was interesting that it continued with the short groups rather than groups of 5 or 6.

I wonder if this might mean that it picks up at the point it left off for each drop and continues purring out whatever trying to say (if anything at all).

 

[Jacob Marshall]

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only hopeful conjecture from here.

And your point? Aside from a nudge from MB pretty much this whole thing has been based on 'hopeful conjecture'. Has a CMDR retraced Halsey's steps? If not, then perhaps it's one other thing to try at some point and cross of the list.

 

[LordZoltan]

Ant:
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/...pvENn9O17fkSdPX8CepLGjySpfpwiJSP5YQYAYyE-MICQ

UA head markings:

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To far fetched?

Well; it's certainly visual evidence of the insectoid nature of the UA - the similarities are obvious

But it's that very insectoid nature, alongside the morse, that makes this thing so confusing.

I'd just like to say I don't think the selling idea is worth investigation - the risk is too great; and I'm just not convinced.

All the time it's being ejected and recorded, at least it can be retrieved if the experiment fails.

Sell it, it's gone. And where to sell it? Anywhere? That doesn't make any sense - it'd have to be a particular place, but there's no way to guess that, that we can see, without an FD Galnet potentially showing up naming one or more locations for is. Also - when they are liberated from the navy convoys, they're not being transported for profit - the Navy is not a trading organisation. For these reasons, I can't see the solution being to sell it.

The convoys are carrying them somewhere else, somewhere we're unable to determine because - in true quantum fashion - by observing the convoy we change it - causing the process of the UA falling out of the cargo hold. So we're not supposed to (need to) know where they were going.

We also have no idea where they are being gathered up from - and it looks to me like there's also no way to identify that place either, so we're probably not meant to find that either.

Need a bit more lateral thought, I think, on all the changes in 1.2 (and possibly sub versions) and how any of them might be used to interact with, or otherwise affect, this little insectoid devil!

 

[hanks01]

Sell it, it's gone. And where to sell it? Anywhere? That doesn't make any sense - it'd have to be a particular place, but there's no way to guess that, that we can see, without an FD Galnet potentially showing up naming one or more locations for is. Also - when they are liberated from the navy convoys, they're not being transported for profit - the Navy is not a trading organisation. For these reasons, I can't see the solution being to sell it.

Well Peregrina has mentions of the Unknown Artifact. Not sure if someone sold one but they took one there and nothing happened.

 

[bitstorm]

http://i.imgur.com/Oi2Z658.png

Voyager is ~2 million ls away, not 1 million. This is the only image I can find of it's last known location.

Well it's heading for Camelordalis.

Earlier today I went to Sol, selected a star system I thought was the right direction & headed that way.

My back of the packet calculations figured it'd be about 2.1 million light seconds from Sol in 3100, I could see nothing around there.

It was all guesswork though for want or something better to do, due to being fed up of endless SSs. =(

 

[Nicholas Powell]

Not to disagree with the suggestion of an insectoid origin from the close-up shots of the UA, it does look (also) strongly reminiscent of trilobites to me.

 

[LordZoltan]

And your point? Aside from a nudge from MB pretty much this whole thing has been based on 'hopeful conjecture'. Has a CMDR retraced Halsey's steps? If not, then perhaps it's one other thing to try at some point and cross of the list.

Absolutely - retracing her steps can do no harm - sorry, I'm not saying there's no point in doing it; I'm just saying that the whole Halsey story is not linked to the UA officially; only in community led conspiracy theories, nothing more (at the moment).

I'm just asking that we are careful not to say something as fact when it's not tested, or not proven when we have (evidently) so many people on this thread, and some of the more occasional visitors might read a post proclaiming a direct link between the two, and operate on that basis.

Also - there's a much smaller leap from 'Have you listened to them?' from MB, leading to the conjecture about, and subsequent identification of, Morse code; than there is to the existence of the UA somehow being the cause of an in-game event reported only by Galnet and which was most likely just a vehicle to make PPlay more lively when released (given the timing of the story).

Don't get me wrong, there being link between the UA and Halsey's disappearance would be fantastic - but how can we test the theory completely when we don't even know exactly where she went, where she was going (given the official lack of clear info for security reasons), how she was carrying the UA (I.e. in Spaceship One itself, or in one of the smaller ships in the wing? Or were they all carrying one?).

Testing the Morse was simple - idea led to test and confirmation. One leap of faith.

UA existence+Halsey disappearance=UA Solution? It's not a leap of faith, it's a magic carpet ride!

But equally, I can't test it - I don't have a UA, but the guys who do have them have been pretty awesome at doing tests, so perhaps they will take the idea and run with it

 

[Jacob Marshall]

Absolutely - retracing her steps can do no harm - sorry, I'm not saying there's no point in doing it; I'm just saying that the whole Halsey story is not linked to the UA officially; only in community led conspiracy theories, nothing more (at the moment).

I'm just asking that we are careful not to say something as fact when it's not tested, or not proven when we have (evidently) so many people on this thread, and some of the more occasional visitors might read a post proclaiming a direct link between the two, and operate on that basis.

Ah no, totally agree* Had a look back at the wiki and some of the stubs, very much a case of me jumping the gun a but there.

*Slight edit in order.

 

[Jacob Marshall]

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To far fetched?

No. I quite like ants;

wasps tho

 

[Ekar]

It doesn't just broadcast the system name, it'll broadcast the name of the nearest body - be it a planet or station - if there's one nearby.

So while it's kind-of acting like a nav beacon, it's only in the fact that it broadcasts a location in Morse. It's more aware than a beacon, though, because it works in any system and any body in that system.

My thing is we need more of an idea why it does this - it's not for our benefit, that's for sure.

I've skipped a lot of this discussion, but if you put two UA's together... since they give info on the nearest object, maybe they will offer up some clue about themselves?

(Sorry if this has been tried)

 

[CMDR Cluster]

2.2 MLs out of SOL - already searched around quite a lot but if we now have to get within 1000 Ls of the probes to find them then this is impossible. Anybody else an idea how to find them?
As there was no reponse at all in the bug report about it I suppose it has some meaning.
It's only 0.06 Ly so I doubt they are in the next system - this is by far not enough...

 

[Chaodiurn]

Well, if it looks like an ant.. has anyone tried to bring it to ANTares, the heart of the scorpion? Insect - spider, it's not to far away, no?

I mean, I haven't seen anybody throw constellations in yet.

 

[LordZoltan]

I've skipped a lot of this discussion, but if you put two UA's together... since they give info on the nearest object, maybe they will offer up some clue about themselves?

(Sorry if this has been tried)

Yeah, two have been put together I think, but I'm not sure if we've listened to two of them and transcribed their morse.

 

[Nicholas Powell]

2.2 MLs out of SOL - already searched around quite a lot but if we now have to get within 1000 Ls of the probes to find them then this is impossible. Anybody else an idea how to find them?
As there was no reponse at all in the bug report about it I suppose it has some meaning.
It's only 0.06 Ly so I doubt they are in the next system - this is by far not enough...

Normally, if I were being entirely sane about it, I'd agree that this is clearly not far enough to have slipped into a neighbouring system's "spatial jurisdiction" or whatever the term may be... but... since I needed a bit of a break from SSS-scouring, I've been checking anyway. Even despite all apparent evidence to the contrary.
Alpha Centauri, Barnard's Star and Luhman 16 systems: have flown for over 100k ls towards Sol to see if it triggers seeing the probe heading from there. No luck. None expected. Just checking. Shall also be checking Wise 0855-0714, Wolf 359, Lalande Whatever-it-is and UV Ceti. Assume no-shows there; shall post back if something does crop up. (Note: I don't have the permit for Sirius.)

 

[mrtree]

http://i.imgur.com/Oi2Z658.png

Voyager is ~2 million ls away, not 1 million. This is the only image I can find of it's last known location.

Yes, but they used to show up once you were about 15-20k Ls out from Sol itself & (perhaps) moving around 100c.Going from that to RES rules (within 1000Ls) would make them very, very hard to find. Which sucks because they were a *reason* to grind rep for Sol access, moreso than seeing a terraformed Mars.

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Absolutely - retracing her steps can do no harm - sorry, I'm not saying there's no point in doing it; I'm just saying that the whole Halsey story is not linked to the UA officially; only in community led conspiracy theories, nothing more (at the moment).

I'm just asking that we are careful not to say something as fact when it's not tested, or not proven when we have (evidently) so many people on this thread, and some of the more occasional visitors might read a post proclaiming a direct link between the two, and operate on that basis.

Also - there's a much smaller leap from 'Have you listened to them?' from MB, leading to the conjecture about, and subsequent identification of, Morse code; than there is to the existence of the UA somehow being the cause of an in-game event reported only by Galnet and which was most likely just a vehicle to make PPlay more lively when released (given the timing of the story).

Don't get me wrong, there being link between the UA and Halsey's disappearance would be fantastic - but how can we test the theory completely when we don't even know exactly where she went, where she was going (given the official lack of clear info for security reasons), how she was carrying the UA (I.e. in Spaceship One itself, or in one of the smaller ships in the wing? Or were they all carrying one?).

Testing the Morse was simple - idea led to test and confirmation. One leap of faith.

UA existence+Halsey disappearance=UA Solution? It's not a leap of faith, it's a magic carpet ride!

But equally, I can't test it - I don't have a UA, but the guys who do have them have been pretty awesome at doing tests, so perhaps they will take the idea and run with it

Halsey's schedule was detailed in https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/uid/fbfb919f69da401c72e062a8165c8e6fcc348180 & then https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/uid/05536c768f3cc2432a738c08ad198530bd7c2e88. There's two added systems in the updated post + the (presumed) detour to Azaleach right before Saga. I'm not sure it means anything or not, but it's as worth a try as anything else we've got IMO. I'll be retracing the tour within the next day or two, just to see.

Edit: This was suggested by PanPiper in https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=162998&p=2516684&viewfull=1#post2516684 & I've been planning on hitting it up ever since.

In particular (DON TINFOIL HATS), the system before Azaleach/Saga was Furuhjlem I-645 which has... a gas giant with ammonia-based life!




THARGOIDS CONFIRMED

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Well, if it looks like an ant.. has anyone tried to bring it to ANTares, the heart of the scorpion? Insect - spider, it's not to far away, no?

I mean, I haven't seen anybody throw constellations in yet.

Adding it to the list of places to check. It's worth a go.

 

[LordZoltan]

@mrtree All this lives and dies on whether you guys are able to spare the time for the cause. Like Wishblend and others before you (and Ratking15 now), every minute you spend is massively appreciated.

On that note, if you and RatKing15 can get together at some point and perform a dual recording of your two UAs, hopefully, having a little chat, that'd be great. I don't think we have recordings of this, and I'd be interested to see if their morse changes in any way.

 

[Ratking15]

Simple option = Sell UA.

Uhhh not unless it's the last option we have or have a lot more UA's......

Am wondering the same thing myself, so am heading there now to check the surrounding systems. Quietly. Since it's a rival Power's territory, and all that.
If anybody can already rule out any of them - or, indeed, confirm a Voyager sighting elsewhere, or confirm removal from the game itself - please let me know here so I don't have to diddle about in a rival Power's space overlong.

Cool!

The UA was already been sold: the first one that was discovered was sold by mistake by the player who found it. He received money and that's all. BTW he didn't try if something new appeared in the outfitting screen after selling it.

Uhhh Redwizzard first got a UA and Wishblend first discovered it.........soo.....I'm gonna call bluff as nothing was said at the first thread about it being sold............sceenshots and quote to the post is what I want to disprove this please....

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@mrtree All this lives and dies on whether you guys are able to spare the time for the cause. Like Wishblend and others before you (and Ratking15 now), every minute you spend is massively appreciated.

On that note, if you and RatKing15 can get together at some point and perform a dual recording of your two UAs, hopefully, having a little chat, that'd be great. I don't think we have recordings of this, and I'd be interested to see if their morse changes in any way.

Woha we do have a dual UA recording, more than 3 times I think we've done it now! I and Wishblend have posted the reocrdings! One time may have been a triple!

 

[LordZoltan]

Woha we do have a dual UA recording, more than 3 times I think we've done it now! I and Wishblend have posted the reocrdings! One time may have been a triple!

Ah sorry - Normally hot on this stuff - blame it on the beer (again! & blame that on the weather!)

I'll bet the Morses were transcribed and verified then, but I'll take a look anyway. If it was on twitch I probably didn't watch as I'm on my phone most of the time and twitch is poo on a phone!

 

[Ratking15]

Ah sorry - Normally hot on this stuff - blame it on the beer (again! & blame that on the weather!)

I'll bet the Morses were transcribed and verified then, but I'll take a look anyway. If it was on twitch I probably didn't watch as I'm on my phone most of the time and twitch is poo on a phone!

Right so just in case here are twitch links......which are all my pov as I will leave it to Wishblend to post her side.....
http://www.twitch.tv/ratking15/c/6736525
http://www.twitch.tv/ratking15/c/6899591
And look through this playlist:https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1zpFFyZtj4hFV_YlL0KsQnvWB5PXHvrF

 

[Jacob Marshall]

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Edit: This was suggested by PanPiper in https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=162998&p=2516684&viewfull=1#post2516684 & I've been planning on hitting it up ever since.

In particular (DON TINFOIL HATS), the system before Azaleach/Saga was Furuhjlem I-645 which has... a gas giant with ammonia-based life!...

Good spot, for both!

Aside from RL, my game time is tied up for the moment with a combination of a project and a thorough thrashing heading my way.

It's clear we need more UAs. In the unlikely event that we haven't cracked this by mid-week, I'll chip-in an evening or two in one of the zones looking for a UA. I'm UK based, so if anyone wants to Wing-up and see if these can actually be 'farmed', more the merrier.