(RANT) It's enough frontier!

[Polusk]

One big issue with this kind of game with a deep relationship between dev and gamers, is that players are not considering a fact as a part of the background, but only a dev choice.
Empire is more helped than Federation or Alliance, THAT'S NOT FAIR!
Did you just think that it is the "ED" world which is like that?

In another topic, it remembers me other threads where everybody tries to extract all patterns, all mathematic behind every game mecanics, is it how we have to play a game which tries to be "immersive"?

I can agree that some choices made by Frontier could be discussed... As the fact that several bugs are still here from months, as we woudl appreciate to have news concerning future updates, as the fact the game is missing content, and that being offline (due to your own reasons) makes you loosing merits... But fair or unfair? that's life, that's the background. You cannot argue that "it is not fair that Sith could launch thunders and Jedis not, George Lucas please fix it!". That's the story and nothing else. (well probably star wars fans would say that finally yes Jedis can but they don't)

 

[Deleted member 94277]

Frontier fixes a patent defect in the PP mechanic, highlighted by the first power to uncover said defect who could have been anyone, but happens to be ALD due to reasons not pertinent to this discussion...

What defect? The real "defect" with Powerplay to me is its existence.

 

[Deleted member 94277]

So much this. In an era when humanity has discovered the Frame Shift Drive, throwing off the shackles of week-long hyperspace jumps, and the far side of the galaxy is in almost easy reach, to collapse inwards, rather than expand outwards at a massive rate seems... erm... 'a bit short-sighted' [classic British understatement there].

There are over 100 scanned and surveyed, yet unclaimed, Earth-Like worlds within 500 LYs of the "Powers" borders. It takes 15 minutes to reach the most distant one. So why are these characters still squabbling over dead brown dwarf systems, mined out belts, and a pixels worth of the map that someone else has 'claimed' when they have untapped infinity on their doorstep?

FD, how about the powers begin expanding outwards and making some use of this empty 400,000,000,000 star system galaxy... colonization, expansion, exploration... those funny 33rd century concepts that humans would be engaging in... instead of this archaic 18th century empire building nonsense based on finite borders and limited resources. Its almost as if you want to keep everyone crammed into one tiny speck and enforce multiplayer interaction to justify all the multiplayer concepts you went to great pains to implement.

Rep to both. This is why, after almost 200 hours logged in the game, I've came to the conclusion that exploration is the last bastion of good gameplay left in ED.

 

[HectorSmarties]

I agree with OP about his main point. The Empire keeps on getting attention from the devs, and today ALD got a huge " get out of jail" card.
My good will towards the MMO part of this game is standing on its last legs.

 

[lysan]

Hi @OP I hear you....

However, you do know that the Alliance are powering up, and we will soon start to build specific ships for the coming war...

 

[Sire]

Spoiler

Usual disclaimer ;
I hate rants, but this is still not addressed, or even talked about by frontier.
The word needs to come out, in one way or the other, and rants is one of them.​

Argh!
I'm sick of it Frontier!

Time after time you've proven yourselves to be a bias and unfair player in Elite's political landscape.

I've discussed this in my long rant (Link in sig) but i just can't handle this biowaste anymore!

Time after time, you favor the empire over all other faction.
They have great ships, loads of community goals, great powerplay rewards and generally great everything.

The Federation gets some, but much less than the empire.

And the alliance gets almost NOTHING



Now, sadly this has been going on since gamma, and it has only gotten worse since then.
But today the glass ran over, and i just can't stand this anymore!

Today frontier bailed out Arissa-lavigny duval when she was in turmoil.


ARE YOU SERIOUS FRONTIER!
WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD YOU DO THAT!
ARISSA'S FOLLOWERS MANAGED TO SCREW HER OVER, AND ALL YOU DO IS TO MAGICALLY FIX IT AND GIVE HER ANOTHER CHANCE!

WHY, OH GOD WHY ARE YOU REMOVING THE PENALTY FOR BAD PLAY!
ARISSA'S FOLLOWERS MADE BAD MOVES AND PUT HER INTO TURMOIL, THEY DIDN'T DO GOOD AND THEY GOT PROPER PENALTY FOR IT, THEN YOU JUST REMOVE IT!

ARISSA SHOULD BE DEAD BY NOW FRONTIER, THAT'S HOW THE GAME SHOULD WORK.
YOU CAN'T JUST CHANGE STUFF AROUND, MAKING NEW RULES BECAUSE SHE IS ARISSA!

JUST BECAUSE SHE IS HIGH-RANKED AND POWERFULL DOSEN'T MEAN SHE CAN'T FALL, AND WHEN SHE FALLS SHE SHOULD FALL FRONTIER!




I'm sick of this frontier, really sick of this.
I feel like a victim of racism by joining the alliance.

I'm so angry that you are doing this, and it's really the thing that's gonna make me stop playing elite if it continues.

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Frontier, stop this garbage.

/Rant (Sorry for being a bit angry)

I really think you are taking this game a bit too seriously. Take a rest, breathe deeply and relax yourself. Come back to reality where... ehm... where... Greece is going to default... ehm... Europe is sinking... where errrr, terrorist are chopping people's head... Earth is overheating... ... ... ehm... now that you make me think better about it I strongly believe that DEVs are behaving very unfairly to federation, my friend!!!

 

[Soon(TM)]

I don't see what the moaning is all about, it's a 7 day turnaround anyway isn't it, if a power is in turmoil on Sunday it would reset on Monday morning wouldn't it, or at least update so they were balanced again?

 

[Shibukai]

This has nothing to do with Fed vs Empire vs Alliance or any bias FD may have for any power.

There was a fix in the overhead calculation of systems. If it had not been fixed and they let Arissa fall out of existence because of this bug, it would only be fair to allow the inevitable downfall of all the other 9 powers in a few months time.

The we would get 10 new powers and let them fall all over again. Wouldn't that be fun?

 

[Kulin]

Yes, FD is clearly biased and are helping one faction over the others...because of reasons...

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/804/573/f07.jpg

I mean why? What would be the point?

You know what? Don't answer...

I'm out of here!!

O c'mon. Being a fanboy shouldn't kill your ability to think logically at all.

The reason WHY is completly irrelevant. In fact thats what he's asking. We have super-easy observable facts that can be denied. These are the ships and the weapons. Alliance gets nothing, other faction get something. The other things are a grey-zone, because they are not that clear. But this things are not deniable.

So: to ask why cant be wrong.

 

[Johnny Kelso]

PP is obviously total chaos as far as organization in the powers go, unless FD choose to organise things, and now they are moving the goals.... I feel more like a puppet on a string, than a games player

 

[Metalstardust]

Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz

Was dropped from the language. I have no idea why.

 

[Comrade Napoleon]

Sorry for your loss OP and others who have been drawn into this quagmire mess.
It is indeed worrisome that Fd have implemented mechanics that they have had so little foresight evaluating consequences of....
I have always regarderde PP as as an horrid mess, this certainly does nothing to nullifi my sentiments regarding it.
That the bias in clearly toward Empire in all aspects is just plain unfair to a large part of Cmdr's
My suggestion to FD : Suspend PP and clean up the mess, and give players tools to communicate and plan.

Cheers Cmdr's

 

[Metalstardust]

During Beta 1.3 I tried PP for one hour. I then gazed into my Crystal Ball and I predicted what would happen. Now it has come to pass. Grind, the special weapons are useless, keep moving goalposts, it's not fair. Blaze your trail commanders. Step away from PP nothing to see. Move on.

 

[Evil]

Many feels, Kola.

Yes, it does feel like we have been left out in the cold, but in some ways that's what the alliance is, a rag tag band of independents that is trying to establish some normality in the madness of other power struggles and oppresive regimes. We have to wait and see, only time will tell if we truly are just a punch bag for others.

We can only hope FD implements things that could be considered Alliance specific, ie modified/stolen/jury rigged versions of the fed and Imp ships.

 

[LeetNoob]

Label the major factions "A", "B" and "LOL".

rep for "A", "B" and "LOL" !!

 

[Badben]

This is not something I agree with or find in any way important. I hope Frontier ignores you and focuses on something worthwhile, no offence.

 

[vulkman]

As far as I understood they intervened because ALD was just brought down by overhead, not undermining, and they don't want a power to crash under it's own weight so easily. Overhead is meant to support undermining, not replace it. I mean yes, we at Winters understood soon enough that we have to stop all expansion to avoid this and are organized well enough to achive that and now we can't take that sweet 2nd place home, which does make me a bit angry, they could at least have ALD drop to 3, but I understand why they did what they did and I don't believe it's because she is Empire or she is needed in the story.

Also: PP did not "fail" in my opinion, it achieved exactly what it was supposed to: Give players endgame content, a way to burn their useless cash and pitch them against each other in an orderly, non griefing yet non-artificial (CQC) fashion.

Of course there are things that could be done better, but who says they're not gonna do exactly that?

 

[Firestarter]

This thread is in La La Land.

 

[Agony_Aunt]

OP, here's a hint. Its just a game. Don't stress, its not worth it. There are plenty of real life problems we face that are worth stressing over.

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Many feels, Kola.

Yes, it does feel like we have been left out in the cold, but in some ways that's what the alliance is, a rag tag band of independents that is trying to establish some normality in the madness of other power struggles and oppresive regimes. We have to wait and see, only time will tell if we truly are just a punch bag for others.

We can only hope FD implements things that could be considered Alliance specific, ie modified/stolen/jury rigged versions of the fed and Imp ships.

I have a feeling there are some long term plans ahead for the Alliance. I could be wrong... but i'm thinking Thargoids.

 

[Poseidal]

Shame Mahon doesn't have anywhere near the charisma of Meredith Argent or the old Alliance greats.