Unknown Artefact (or artifact) Community Thread - The Canonn

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Jacob Marshall

Jacob Marshall
Spanksh said:
That's actually quite a good idea. However then it would be expected that the message repeats.

Here is a screen of the system:
http://images.akamai.steamuserconte...463/B95CFDC0F0CB3186D75CEFD4AC2C348F4AB35CAB/


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Uh this just gave me an Idea. This theory could be proven/disproven by taking it to a system with only 1 star and nothing else. Then the purr message should be very short and repeat quite fast.
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Spanksh, your post a few back had 15 blocks of data? There are 16 objects in this system, -1 for the A-class star leaves 15...

I may be over-tired.

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Oh for f... multiple tests in the same system produced different sounds?
 
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Spanksh

Spanksh
Jacob Marshall said:
Oh for f... multiple tests in the same system produced different sounds?
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Yes, that would make sense if the UA remembers where it left off and keeps sending the message from that point on. But that's quite far fetched. A short message could answer this question much easier.
 

Jacob Marshall

Jacob Marshall
Spanksh said:
Yes, that would make sense if the UA remembers where it left off and keeps sending the message from that point on. But that's quite far fetched. A short message could answer this question much easier.
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I make you right. If the UA was running MS DOS I might be tempted to make an argument about it probably needing a bigger RAM drive :D

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Ratking15 said:
That's why I did 3 tests....
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I'm really wishing I had a UA to take some of this off your shoulders.

Continuing this line of thought, if we can find a very small system, ideally one star and one body would it be out of order to ask for one addition 'broadcast'?

If such a test-system could be found i.e. one star one body then a 3rd broadcast ought surely to contain a repeated 'transmission?

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Ratking15 said:
Well.....we do have previous recording of UA's.....why not revisit them? I sure we did a small name system.
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That, is a very good point. I need a siesta, overtired and not thinking straight.
 
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Spanksh

Spanksh
BINGO!

Found a lonely brown dwarf only 8.43 LY away form SLEIPNIR. Scanned it with advanced discovery scanner, so we can directly compare any findings with every detail we can get from the star.
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Spanksh

Spanksh
Ratking15 said:
I think do one or two tests with the UA though this time due to us knowing a bit better unless there is a reason to do 3 again?
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Well ideally we would have to do as many tests as it needs for the signal to repeat itself, but that's not really possible in a reasonable manner, since the purrs come so slowly. So do however many you're happy doing. You have already invested an insane amount of time in this, so I won't ask you to do any more than you are comfortable with. :)
 
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Wishblend

Wishblend
Finally upgraded to Baron

I did two final donate cash missions and then I got a few imperial opp missions for rank improvement.

One was take a message and one was take combat stabilisers.

On checking my cargo to make sure I had the room to go to a system to collect the combat stabilisers, I saw that I allready had them as the mission gave them to me so that I didn't need to go and collect them first.

After the missions I finally made it to Baron

Time to buy my new ship and then go UA hunting ;-)

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bartmoss

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Alright, I've started a Purr-Database:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mGAftHi6zlLNPFs1vUParJAMRwALnvzc1tR_K1vbMuI/edit?pli=1

Please send me transcripts - with a source! - so I can incorporate them.

So far there are 29 symbols (sequences of 5-6 purrs), and there is a notable spike with "01001". Substitution code, perhaps, where the letters of the alphabet are not sequentially numbered? We definitely need a bigger sample size.

Also, could someone please listen to sequence #8 (Wishblend, Same Position from https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=141038&page=620&p=2477602&viewfull=1#post2477602) and tell me if I got it right? There is a lot of clipping in that recording, and I found it hard to tell in some cases.
 
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bitstorm

bitstorm
Spanksh said:
BINGO!

Found a lonely brown dwarf only 8.43 LY away form SLEIPNIR. Scanned it with advanced discovery scanner, so we can directly compare any findings with every detail we can get from the star.
0812F7B8AEBF40F4CA868087397446E61D829125
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Just for reference it's a brown dwarf T class star.
 
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Grumbleweed

Grumbleweed
One other thing we may have not thought of yet, but just struck me. Along the lines of it being a scanner, what about chemical composition...star type, 'rocky planet' kind of thing. That's what the basic discovery scanner does, besides the name, right?

I failed chemistry, and when I was in school there weren't so many things on the periodic table, but I'm wondering if the UA is bleating the chemical make-up of the body as well as its catalogue name? Somehow.

I'll do some reading between SSS farming (in Timocani, in Mobius, if you fancy joining, its FUN! OK, its not really fun). If it turns out there's no reason for the lack of spawns, I (and probably quite a few others) will be moderately annoyed.
 

Spanksh

Spanksh
Ratking15 said:
Can someone please look for what the morse code is saying in this twitch stream? I freashly recorded it now: http://www.twitch.tv/ratking15/c/6951043
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Spanksh said:
I noted down the purrs of this record with ' being high pitched purr, - low pitched and | being howls. Also note there is a long pause AFTER each howl, including the first one.

| - ' - ' ' | - - ' ' - | - ' - - ' | ' - ' - ' | - ' - ' - | <scoop>

| - - ' - ' | ' ' - - ' ' | ' - - ' ' - | - ' ' - - ' | - ' ' - - ' | <scoop>

| - ' - - ' | ' ' - ' - - | - ' ' - - ' | - ' ' - ' ' | - ' - - ' | <scoop>

This time there are several sets of 6 purrs before the howl. Some of the 6th purrs are almost cut off by the howl, but they are still clearly distinguishable so I noted them down as well.
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Spanksh said:
http://images.akamai.steamuserconte...463/B95CFDC0F0CB3186D75CEFD4AC2C348F4AB35CAB/
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Spanksh said:
http://images.akamai.steamuserconte...852/0812F7B8AEBF40F4CA868087397446E61D829125/
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Ratking15 said:
Done: http://www.twitch.tv/ratking15/c/6951497
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Here for the latter system (now double checked):

| ' - ' - - | ' ' - - ' | ' - - ' ' - | - ' - - ' | - - ' ' - | <scoop>
| - - ' ' - | - ' - ' ' - | ' ' - - ' | ' - - ' - ' | ' ' - - ' | <scoop>
| - - ' ' - ' | - ' ' - - ' | - ' ' - ' | ' - - ' - ' | ' ' - ' ' - | < scoop>

It does seem like certain patterns keep repeating but not in a certain order.

I attached the above info of the "old" system for reference. Post-links contain the full posts.

EDIT: Fixed some wrong notations.
 
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bartmoss

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Okay, I have another wild theory. If I recall correctly, Braben and Bell had to compress the Elite 1 text description so they could fit everything in. They analyzed the text for the most common syllables. Could the UA be doing something similar? That way, it could fit quite a bit more data into a half dozen purr sequences. Of course, that'd be a kitten to decrypt, unless someone has code for the Elite 1 compression sitting around?

I know it's really "out there", but if a sequence is ~9 symbols maximum, it can't contain much data. If we assume some form of crude compression... it could be ~50%-100% more.
 
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