Unknown Artefact (or artifact) Community Thread - The Canonn
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Its not morse code.
Hi everyone, I've not read the entire thread (who has time?), however, I've spent some time listening to the sounds coming from the UA from recordings on-line.
I don't know who told you that it was morse code or even distorted morse code. IMHO it certainly is not.
I did morse code in the military for many years over long range HF skywave links, and I'm really not hearing the morse code in the UA's sound.
Please note : I'm only listening at normal audio speeds.
Hi everyone, I've not read the entire thread (who has time?), however, I've spent some time listening to the sounds coming from the UA from recordings on-line.
I don't know who told you that it was morse code or even distorted morse code. IMHO it certainly is not.
I did morse code in the military for many years over long range HF skywave links, and I'm really not hearing the morse code in the UA's sound.
Please note : I'm only listening at normal audio speeds.
Yeah that's potentially a bit of a downer.
It's still a tempting avenue though, while the groups of purrs weren't anything interesting when examined in sequence, the purrs within the groups themselves appeared to have enough structure to make them appear deliberate.
So far as I've seen*, no high or low purr within a given group occurs for more than two in a row. If the purrs themselves were completely random we should also see a few sequences of 3 (or more) of the same purr tone in a row given the number of purr groups that have been transcribed now.
On the upside if that means they're just fluff then more time can be spent on other ideas I guess.
* Well, with the exception of one of the groups in Red Wizard's expiring UA vid in the group where it "expires" (link to group here), otherwise they are unusually devoid of triple high and low tones (or more).
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Hey I just had a thought about the UA. Forgive for not following this thread closely as I have no background in audio. Many pages ago someone proposed that UA might have something to with terraforming. Was that idea ever looked into? Did anyone try dropping it outside a terraformable planet?
I think I might, too, have been ninja'd
Glad to know you're lurking, Clavain - it's oddly comforting
I've completely abstained from PowerPlay and instead am exploring (think I've said that about 100 times now!). Quite enjoying myself, actually, although I wish I could go back now to Sol to find the Voyagers...
No, bitstorm, that was not a reply to you, [edit] just a misunderstanding[/url]
Interesting, from good old wikipedia:
Wasn't the Voyager last seen near Pluto?
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Test done in a plague system by a station giving a CG sign up: http://www.twitch.tv/ratking15/c/6958384
Hi - please find below a PM I sent to LazerusKI following a request from him on how to 'read' the Morse we're talking about - it's not simple on/off - but 'warbles' of different tones that form the basis of the message:
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So I'm assuming you've isolated where we say the Morse occurs - right after, and sometimes slightly overlapping, the whale noise.
The, admittedly quiet, tones (or warbles) that follow - until the body of the UA stops being lit up is the Morse.
They're not solid tones - they're like 'brbrbr', or 'grgrgr', oscillating at about 20-30 times a second. They also come in different pitches, but the pitch is not important, it's the length that matters.
Dits are quite short, and the gaps between letters aren't always clear because of all the background noise, so that can make transcribing quite problematic. Gaps between 'words' (not present in 'earth' obviously) are quite obvious, say 1/2 to 3/4 sec.
Dahs are often lower pitched, but possibly 3 times longer than the dit.
The hardest part of understanding it, is the fact that three dits in succession, say, won't be the same pitch. Often, the first two dits are the same pitch, and the third is lower. It's not significant for any other reason, it's just a feature.
Early on the new thread, post 217, jmanis posted a full alphabet that he'd identified from all the different videos - this will help: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showth...=1#post2500146
Welcome to the thread (this is definitely my last post before bed!)
It isn't morse in the sense that it is long and short sinewave beeps, but imagine a morse message being put through a whole sequence of audio manipulation software, like pitch shifters and phase shifters, but leaving the length of the respective dots and dashes intact, that is what it is. It took me a while to hear it, and I didn't believe it myself, but its there once you know what you're listening for. Here's a link yo a post with almost the entire alphabet extracted from recordings.. https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=162998&p=2500146&viewfull=1#post2500146
Once you get your ear in, let us know, we could do with a natural decoder in our midst!
Bah! ninja'd before bedtime. If there's a bloke in silk slippers and a mask waiting for me, Ill be very upset.
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You will hear it. You need good head phones an high volume.
The audio has 3 sequences:
- Honk
- Chitter (quite faint)
- Purrs.
The Morse is the chitter. Slightly slower tha normal Morse speed I think.
The Purrs are dominante, but does not contain Morse.
Sorry but I honestly feel your suggestion that it's designed to explode is a bit tenuous.
I'm not discounting it at all, I think were all a pretty accepting bunch however crazy the ideas seem!
You're using a real-life analogy to an EMP device. I'd just say I cannot think of any other instance in real life where something explodes in order to send data, can you?
I'd also say, I'm game terms these items will be in the hands of collectors. The process would be:
- Pilot shoots ship
- Pilot picks up unusual item
- Pilot makes a killing by selling it +250,000! =D
Item goes to collector and as such, in game terms, there's very unlikely to be a time when they all "complete their mission".
Honestly my advice would be go UA hunting yourself, lots of people are, each one of these people has their own pet theories they'd like to try.
You have to bear in mind we get so many suggestions in this thread of things that result in the loss of the UA, and the people suggesting are often utterly convinced their idea is correct.
One person here reckons selling the item at Leonard Nimoy station will trigger something (because of a clue in the wings trailer), I honestly don't think it will, but his idea is cool and well you never know!
Another says we need to sell them anywhere since theyre then researched and with enough finds and sales something will be triggered.
it's just how does a UA holder differentiate between your idea and theirs? All end the UA, we can't do them all!
As I say, my suggestion to you is find one yourself, at that point you're free to do what you want with it, just please report it here so we all know! Even failures rule stuff out and get us closer.
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No Twitch for me :-(
You did not by any chance test to jettison in Morse range of an infected planet did you?
Am I the only one thinking this is good news?
Sound= Morse + fluff. Check
No I agree.
Not only that it helps discount stuff but ....
Yes listening to them side by side the differences are apparent and a bit worrying, but what's not different between the two then starts to stand out (if you see what I mean).
There are some consistencies there across the two recordings (it's not just the morse) and potentially those consistencies might indicate where the useful data is.
i.e. two pieces of footage from two commanders of one UA drop.
(Potentially!)
The stuff that's different is random client side garbage, while the stuff that's not different is important and is what we should be paying attention to.
As always it's just another hypothesis and may be all rubbish. =p
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No planet with population there only stations.....although it had 23 million people
Thank you LordZoltan.
But to be honest, I'm not utterly convinced. I used to do Morse at the not terrific speed of 15 words/minute (I could transmit faster - most people can).
There was a breed of highly skilled operators who could receive morse at speeds upwards of 35 words/minute and to be quite honest they were head cases. I've heard stories of these guys sitting round a fire and transcribing morse code from the crackles of the fire.
The point I'm trying to make, is that given an unclear signal the human brain is capable of hearing what it believes to be morse code when it's not really there.
My respect for your endeavours but I believe the theory of morse code transmission in the audio to be an incorrect assumption. Time will tell I suppose and if I'm wrong I would welcome a "I told you so" PM.
In the meantime I will keep my eyes pealed for UA's whilst I'm out and about.
But to be honest, I'm not utterly convinced. I used to do Morse at the not terrific speed of 15 words/minute (I could transmit faster - most people can).
There was a breed of highly skilled operators who could receive morse at speeds upwards of 35 words/minute and to be quite honest they were head cases. I've heard stories of these guys sitting round a fire and transcribing morse code from the crackles of the fire.
The point I'm trying to make, is that given an unclear signal the human brain is capable of hearing what it believes to be morse code when it's not really there.
My respect for your endeavours but I believe the theory of morse code transmission in the audio to be an incorrect assumption. Time will tell I suppose and if I'm wrong I would welcome a "I told you so" PM.
In the meantime I will keep my eyes pealed for UA's whilst I'm out and about.
I know how precious the few we have are, can I ask though; have we tried to gently nudge the Ua out of the mist/shinies when it's deployed?
it makes the mist
Can you make this out?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/irvb3djn7qq0gns/ross154.wav?dl=0
We could do with another morse decoder round here (it takes me an age). =)
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Hmm, you may need to revaluate that last line. That is based on the FFE "war" track where we send the mycoid virus to wipe them out. Check out the FFE lore for the "peace" track, where you destroy the virus and foil the plans for war against the Thargoids, particularly references in the Journals to the planet Quy in the Quiness system. Now take a look at that same planet on the current Galaxy Map...
Can't find the OP, but whoever said Hospice-1 is not around anymore in ED is correct - which also only happens if you follow the "peace" track in FFE I believe. (destroy the research station there that was the source of the mycoid virus). If you follow the "war" track, the station survives I think. IIRC, the system exists in ED, it is just the planet that is missing...
Not sure what to conclude here, but it looks like something is already living with us in the Bubble to me...
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