Unknown Artefact (or artifact) Community Thread - The Canonn

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So, purrs don't contain data themselves that we're able to ID - I think that was pretty well established a while back when the gentleman compared them to a random sequence distribution.

But number of purs between honks changes - I thought that also determined time between honks?

Elsewise time between purrs is not constant, which doesn't seem right to me.

Regardless, the only variable we've been able to identify that changes consistently between systems aside from the morse chitter is the number of purrs between honks, so let's focus efforts there -

Seems logical that the hot/cold theory is correct in this case.

Does anyone have a cross refference of purs between honks and system names?
 
So, purrs don't contain data themselves that we're able to ID - I think that was pretty well established a while back when the gentleman compared them to a random sequence distribution.

But number of purs between honks changes - I thought that also determined time between honks?

Elsewise time between purrs is not constant, which doesn't seem right to me.

Regardless, the only variable we've been able to identify that changes consistently between systems aside from the morse chitter is the number of purrs between honks, so let's focus efforts there -

Seems logical that the hot/cold theory is correct in this case.

Does anyone have a cross refference of purs between honks and system names?

This is what I'm doing now, but I'll be honest, it's not looking too promising. =(
 
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Bitstorm - I take it all back, now I've got my "ear in" you can clearly make out ROSS154

Nice one!

Stick around.

QorbeQ is much better at it than me, I have to struggle through letter by letter, takes me an age.

The real challenge down the line might be translating one blind!

You'll know more than me but the issue is it's so inconsistent, like the dots and dashes don't always sound the same plus the audio layered over the top.=(

if you're interested in another one...

https://www.dropbox.com/s/g8euqpuf4xlpiih/col.wav?dl=0

This is much lower quality. I can't quite remember and I'm not decoding right now but I think it's

COL 285 SECTOR ZZ-U B17-3
 
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To bad.
Maybe next plauge :)

I still wonder what hapened to Hotice. They have included all the important systems from the old games, but mot Hotice. Why?

Well I would like someone to look at the sounds from the tests I did with the UA as I went 200 LY's to get to that system and then 5k LS to get to the station which i did enter....But I did this because I believe it's the hint that Karrash got fontier to give and maybe the last before they facepalm and give it up....
 
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The clip from what seems to be known as RedWizzard's video (technically it is MY video OF Red Wizzard, natch) is a bit of special case as there were so many Commanders floating around in close proximity that weird things started happening like the cargo duplication bug.

However, there is another video, from Wishblend, showing a UA expiring in space just before she is able to pick it up:
www.twitch.tv/wishblend/c/6652407

As you can see, that explosion was somewhat less dramatic and nothing special happens.

Never mind i figured out how to download from twitch.

And i am right. It blows up just like the giff one. I figured out a video editor program now got to figure out how to clean it up crop the video and will post its after that.

You can even see the shape of the same rip of whatever that was in the giff video.

Its not as high res as the the giff but its there.

And it explodes the same way as the giff also. From the bottom to the node/bulb/head with a flash at the end with the rip shape also.

So its not a onetime graphical glitch as people have said in the giff.


At least with this video from twitch it was recorded at 60 fps wish they had a better close up of the artifact exploding.

Edit when looking at it over and over. It seems to be possibly not exploding after all. It might just be heading home.
Entering the dimension travel.
 
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So, purrs don't contain data themselves that we're able to ID - I think that was pretty well established a while back when the gentleman compared them to a random sequence distribution.

But number of purs between honks changes - I thought that also determined time between honks?

Elsewise time between purrs is not constant, which doesn't seem right to me.

Regardless, the only variable we've been able to identify that changes consistently between systems aside from the morse chitter is the number of purrs between honks, so let's focus efforts there -

Seems logical that the hot/cold theory is correct in this case.

Does anyone have a cross refference of purs between honks and system names?

Agreed, this seems like something worth exploring at some point. Personally, if the FSD failure theory leads to a dead end I'd quite like to see this tested somehow. Should only need a few samples at the extreme ends of civilized space to rule it out (or as far as UA owners want to fly). If there's no change in the 6 extreme points on the bubble (or at a minimum toward/away from the core), then beyond flying out 1k ly in each direction, it'll give a fair indication of whether or not it's not going to change.

Incidentally, one fun property of the codes I found is that if you strip out all those that contain runs >2 of the same "bit" as QorbeQ did, again counting up from 0-255 but constrain the codes to 6 bit sequences, you're left with exactly 26 unique 6-bit codes. Not really good enough to contain a message though, unless you want to send messages "enttirelywithoutspaces".

Somewhat hacky python code below:
Code:
def codebook( bits ):
    invalid_runs = range(3,9)
    zeros = [ "0" * n for n in invalid_runs ]
    ones = [ "1" * n for n in invalid_runs ]
    
    invalid = set(zeros + ones)

    # I know, there are more elegant ways of doing this
    codes = []
    for x in range(0,256):
        b = "{:08b}".format(x)
        # limit to specified bits
        b = b[8-bits:]
        valid = True
        for s in invalid:
            if s in b:
                valid = False
                break
            
        if valid:
            codes.append( b )
    
    # remove duplicates        
    codes = [c for c in set(codes)]
    return codes

codes = codebook(6)
print( len( codes ) )
print( codes )

Output:
Code:
26
['110101', '110100', '010100', '010101', '001100', '001101', '001001', '011011', '011010', '100100', '100101', '101011', '101010', '110011', '110010', '010010', '010011', '010110', '110110', '011001', '001010', '001011', '101101', '101100', '100110', '101001']
 
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So if the thing is emitting morse of the nearest station, does that not mean it's intended to lead us to a thargoid station/system? Do you drop it out somewhere far off looking for a station name in the morse that's "thargoidy"? :)


Is there another component to the sound/morse that measures a distance from said thing?

Would the diamond back scouts extra u.i elements provide said distance under the right circumstances?

Are the purrs giving you the distance?
 
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Regardless, the only variable we've been able to identify that changes consistently between systems aside from the morse chitter is the number of purrs between honks, so let's focus efforts there -

It doesn't though does it?

The link I posted with the two synchronised videos of one UA showed that two commanders hear a different number of purrs between honks.

http://www.youtubedoubler.com/?vide...&start2=89&authorName=CMDR+Britain+(Bitstorm)


Does anyone have a cross refference of purs between honks and system names?

Sorry I said before I was looking at this, I'm not looking at "purrs between honks", I'm looking at timings.

On the assumption that the UA is broadcasting data to home and getting data back from home. The time required for data to return being an indicator or distance from home. (which can then be used to triangulate)
 
Can you make this out?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/irvb3djn7qq0gns/ross154.wav?dl=0

We could do with another morse decoder round here (it takes me an age). =)
I just listened and it definitely says ross 154, but the R is hard to make out. Otherwise i don't think I could have 'heard' it if I didn't already know what to listen for, as far as the rhythms go. The chirps aren't uniform dashes and dots, it's like there's an oscillating or flanging effect. To those who don't know what I mean, listen to Eruption by Van Halen. He's using a flanging/phasing effect during the solo.
 
My respect for your endeavours but I believe the theory of morse code transmission in the audio to be an incorrect assumption. Time will tell I suppose and if I'm wrong I would welcome a "I told you so" PM.

In the meantime I will keep my eyes pealed for UA's whilst I'm out and about.
I'm not a natural morse decoder, but I do know a little morse by ear.
We were at Chargaff Port in 20 Ophiuchi this evening listening to the UA.
Since I knew the chittering was "morse", I was listening very specifically for the ..-. ..-. of Chargaff AND I CAUGHT IT!
The others are right, it isn't anything to do with the sound or tone. It's all to do with the intervals. Having a double letter preceding a gap was a help to lock onto it.
 
Nice one!

Stick around.

QorbeQ is much better at it than me, I have to struggle through letter by letter, takes me an age.

The real challenge down the line might be translating one blind!

You'll know more than me but the issue is it's so inconsistent, like the dots and dashes don't always sound the same plus the audio layered over the top.=(

if you're interested in another one...

https://www.dropbox.com/s/g8euqpuf4xlpiih/col.wav?dl=0

This is much lower quality. I can't quite remember and I'm not decoding right now but I think it's

COL 285 SECTOR ZZ-U B17-3

OK - I deliberately didn't view your the spoiler until I'd had a go at the translation.

The first part was very difficult but I got the following about 1 quarter of the way in.

5FRORGGUB103A

Which to anyone who doesn't know morse code would look like complete nonsense but actually is very close to your deduction considering how close a G is to Z (must have missed a dit (twice)) and the FRO, di di dah dit - di dah dit - dah dah dah could also be my mistakes as SECT di di dit - dit - dah di dah dit - dah is very close to FRO . . . . I've not done this in 20 years but warming up fast.

So I concur with what you state as the translation in the spoiler.
 
Its not morse code.

Hi everyone, I've not read the entire thread (who has time?), however, I've spent some time listening to the sounds coming from the UA from recordings on-line.

I don't know who told you that it was morse code or even distorted morse code. IMHO it certainly is not.

I did morse code in the military for many years over long range HF skywave links, and I'm really not hearing the morse code in the UA's sound.

Please note : I'm only listening at normal audio speeds.

EDIT: Ah, this took me too long to write on my dodgy internet connection. Will leave it here anyway, in case I need to link some of the rationale ever again :)

So, I pitched the idea of morse a long time back, but it didn't get traction, nor did I have the resources to push through. After seeing suggestion it was "coming back into consideration", I repushed the idea with the help of others and is now pretty accepted. With that said, let me explain a few things, and how they've come about which might clear things up.

- Firstly, since you haven't read the whole thread, here's the alphabet I produced from the UA chittering. That alphabet is derived from a collection of recordings from the community (mostly Wishblend and Ratking's), who helpfully recorded the UA at enough different places to provide the whole alphabet and numbers. The critical thing with the alphabet is that if I was wrong at all with extracting the letters, there is no way I would've been able to come up with an alphabet, as it took over 20 recordings to do, in some cases extracting a single audio cut. But I was able to spot it almost first go every time.

(PS Wishblend, if I have to listen to COL 285 SECTOR in UA chitter ever again, I'm gonna get all hulk up in here.... ;) )

- Next, I verified the accuracy of this alphabet by using it to synthesise a signal for EKURU A 1 , a location which had not yet been recorded. After producing this, Wishblend went off and recorded the UA outside EKURU A 1. Although not a perfect replication (due to the variances that can occur in each recording), it's structurally identical, which is as close a proof as you can get.

- Some of those variances are in pitch and tone, but again, they are structurally the same. Some variances are also from the actual morse encoded version itself. If you listen to the "P" sample, it's *almost* nothing like an actual morse P. This is why the various morse-decoding software this has been passed through doesn't detect anything. It'd be like taking Chinese text and expecting sense when you pass it through a Japanese text decoder. Their scripts are similar, but they aren't the same. However..

- It's not *strictly* morse. It's much easier for everyone to just call it morse, rather than what it actually is; a stylised variation of morse. If you're listening for *pure* morse, or even distorted morse (where the signals are the same, but just distorted slightly) you won't hear it. It's probably much more accurate to say this is something *based* off morse, as my initial work assumed it was morse *with variance* in it. Thus, the issues with the P sound.

- Other variations that can occur is, for example, that a "dit" is sometimes a "wip", "wup" or "dat" sound (the 'dat' is really uncommon and only appears in a few letters). This is best heard in the cuts for "5" (dit dit dit dit dit) and "4" (dit dit dit dit dah). In the recordings, respectively, they sound more like "wip wip wip" and "wip wip warp".

- The best way to explain this is as a language effect rule, similar to what we do with the english language. "Phone" contains "P" (pee) and "H" (aich), but these are not heard when you pronounce the word phone. In this case, they make a "fuh" sound. But just because you don't hear a "Pee" or an "aich" doesn't mean it's not present. I think similar rules might apply to the "morse", for example, three or more sequential dits will follow a "high-low-high..." sequence. That said, it's not something I'm willing to put effort in to breaking down, nor am capable of doing it.
I hope that helps. I know there will be people out here who will never be convinced it's morse, and if I could go back in time and somehow pitch it in a way that didn't claim it was morse, but instead based off morse (and thus, can be decoded like morse) I might have, because people do go listening for morse (like in the nav beacons) and can't hear it, nor can software detect it, and so think it isn't.
 
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I'm not a natural morse decoder, but I do know a little morse by ear.
We were at Chargaff Port in 20 Ophiuchi this evening listening to the UA.
Since I knew the chittering was "morse", I was listening very specifically for the ..-. ..-. of Chargaff AND I CAUGHT IT!
The others are right, it isn't anything to do with the sound or tone. It's all to do with the intervals. Having a double letter preceding a gap was a help to lock onto it.

Honestly, I'm sold on this now. I retract all my previous statements - It is morse code, please feel free to PM "I told you so's" LOL
 
timocani, I'm waiting for the ship to degrade or try and jump out so I can mass lock it and catch it without the escort
 
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Has anyone noticed that the tempo for the "morse' is 160bpm? or 80, depending how you like to subdivide. I'm finding it's a little easier to pick up on the differences while tapping your foot or watching a metronome lol.
 
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