Is There Any Point Using Transportes In Open Play?

Fairness is nothing to do with it, some people some of the time - really don't want to do PVP or be victims of it. Its a massive turn off for some people. I know that once it became clear I could not compete with mega-corps in EvE Online - the fun started to disappear. Sometimes however I do like to PVP, and when I want that to happen, I'll play in open play.. the rest of the time I play in the Mobius Group (http://www.elitepve.com) so that I don't have to think about PVP at all.. Its more chilled out and that's a different experience but no less valid than full blown kill-em-all PVP. I love space trucking, I can chill out to some amazing music on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/user/11125206898/playlist/5cpH9Azh5jt4yWwwyXJ6y5) and just have fun.

I understand what you say, but even trading in open, if you stay clear of the starter systems area, away from the lave cluster and from community goal systems, you will rarely see another human player. The possiblity for a (rare) encounter, and a (even more rare) attack just add a little salt to trading.
 
There is no real advantage to using a transport in Open play, unless you wing up and allow your wingmates to get the trade bonus. Of course with moving powerplay supplies, it's completely useless. Fundamental flaw in powerplay, IMO. Should have been an Open-only gameplay option.
 
I play Open almost all the time, but even there, at the weekend, I was interdicted in my T7 by an NPC Asp. I did my usual surrender... thrust... boost...boost SC jump.., only this time something was wrong, either the NPC Asp had me mass locked, or the nearby star did, or ED was just having a 'bad day', either way I lost my T7 and cargo, and was down 1.3m cr. So don't assume this is an Open vs Solo issue. The NPCs are a lot tougher these days.
 
I play Open almost all the time, but even there, at the weekend, I was interdicted in my T7 by an NPC Asp. I did my usual surrender... thrust... boost...boost SC jump.., only this time something was wrong, either the NPC Asp had me mass locked, or the nearby star did, or ED was just having a 'bad day', either way I lost my T7 and cargo, and was down 1.3m cr. So don't assume this is an Open vs Solo issue. The NPCs are a lot tougher these days.

Stars cannot mass lock you, an Asp also can't masslock a T7
 
This.

The sense of danger, and having to take measures to avoid it make the game more interesting. If there's no danger (from players or other factors), trading would be just some kind of spreadsheet simulator. I really enjoyed feeling vulnerable and having to take measures to avoid possible attackers back in the day when I was trading in a type-6 to get money for an Asp.

And honestly, the chance of being attacked by another player is very low. I've been playing since launch and was attacked by players 3 or 4 times only. And like someone has already said, it's not quite that hard to escape an attacking ship.

The thing is most traders because think that, because they are trading, can completely neglect their survivability. They remove weapons, sometimes even remove shields, don't equip chaff or any coutermeasures at all, don't invest in "boostability" (power distribution / thrusters) and they point their ship at the target stationm and don't care about the contacts in their scanner. But they only think about their "credits per hour".

And then one day BAM, "someone destroyed my ship, is not fair, his ship was bigger than mine, he didn't even say hello, griefers, gankers, FD give us an escaping computer", and other kinds of whining.

Couldnt disagree more.... Solo is just as fun and exciting with the dangers of death (I've been killed by npc's plenty of times).. I have plenty of PvP too and yes its fun, but not in transporters.. When i get killed by an npc or even pvp (dogfight) i can look back and say i screwed up here and could have done something different there. There was no getting out of this.. So clicking Open play and going to Nanomam = instadeath... woohooo yeah so exciting and fun!! NOT... frustrating is more like it.

btw anytime you want try out your type-7 with SHIELDS and CHAFF and all your special tactics ... ill bring my FDL ok ?? I promise you will die 100% of the time.

Oh and nobody here is whining just having a discussion about the feasibility of transporters in Open play :)
 
I stopped playing in Open after I was interdicted by a wing of player Cmdrs and blown to smithereens with no explanation. I was flying a Fer-de-Lance at the time and I'd put a kill warrant scanner on it for RES hunting (maybe they thought I was out for pirate players, but flying alone? Hmm.) I'm not pledged to anyone in PP, either.

I don't have a problem with being blown up per se in PvP with other players but it was a bit of a joke, to be honest. I naively expected them to at least communicate before opening fire: "What are you doing in our system? Get lost!" / "Drop your cargo (I didn't have any) and live!" etc. Or maybe shoot out my drives and then tell me to stay out of their way. I'd find that interesting - good interaction/RP with other players. As it was, it just seemed like someone decided to try to ruin my day for sh**s and giggles. I don't mean to sound sour (I was peeved at the time but time heals all wounds) but it seemed rather childish - "Hey, look at that sandcastle you've spent hours building as I stamp all over it!"

Joined Mobius after that! :)
 
You're starting to sound like a bit of a noob slack. You confess to having zero skill in open, yet claim you will be successful against an experienced freighter pilot that fly's in open.

Read the situation - FA OFF, Chaff, High wake, see ya.... That's why most of us freighter guy's never whinged about Open play. Only way to gain survival experience against other humans is to take the punches and learn in open, complaining and hiding in solo after a few knocks will teach you sweet FA
 
Couldnt disagree more.... Solo is just as fun and exciting with the dangers of death (I've been killed by npc's plenty of times).. I have plenty of PvP too and yes its fun, but not in transporters.. When i get killed by an npc or even pvp (dogfight) i can look back and say i screwed up here and could have done something different there. There was no getting out of this.. So clicking Open play and going to Nanomam = instadeath... woohooo yeah so exciting and fun!! NOT... frustrating is more like it.

btw anytime you want try out your type-7 with SHIELDS and CHAFF and all your special tactics ... ill bring my FDL ok ?? I promise you will die 100% of the time.

Oh and nobody here is whining just having a discussion about the feasibility of transporters in Open play :)

Been playing in open since day 1. Played with every ship n the game except the Anaconda. Quite a lot of time with a type-6 in the early game.

In all that time only was attacked by human players 3 or 4 times. Only got killed once.

Don't seem like INSTADEATH to me...

I' m not claiming to be top gun, but there is a lot of things you can do just to avoid being attacked, and then more things you can do to escape an attack without being blown.

Anyway, bring your FDL. I'm always in open. But I assure you that even if you managed to get behind me and interdict me in a T7 I could easily escape your FDL just by submitting to interdiction, chaffing, boosting and jumping out.

When flying traders play defensively, be on the lookout, don't let human combat ships get behind you in supercruise, jump out in case of doubt, and invest a bit in defensive / fleeing capability for when you are interdicted and you will be fine.
 
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Couldnt disagree more.... Solo is just as fun and exciting with the dangers of death (I've been killed by npc's plenty of times).. I have plenty of PvP too and yes its fun, but not in transporters.. When i get killed by an npc or even pvp (dogfight) i can look back and say i screwed up here and could have done something different there. There was no getting out of this.. So clicking Open play and going to Nanomam = instadeath... woohooo yeah so exciting and fun!! NOT... frustrating is more like it.

btw anytime you want try out your type-7 with SHIELDS and CHAFF and all your special tactics ... ill bring my FDL ok ?? I promise you will die 100% of the time.

Oh and nobody here is whining just having a discussion about the feasibility of transporters in Open play :)

Unlikley, if the player in the type 7 is smart and has decent shields and shield boosters, it's almost impossible to kill them, you have around 20-25 seconds as a smart player will use a high energy jump which you cannot mass lock ( takes around 20 seconds including cool down) looking at the shield stats, and assuming the transporter has military armour, you have to take out the shields with boosters and take out his power plant, seeing as it takes 5 seconds to deploy Meidiem hardpoints and up to 6-7 to deploy large and huge hardpoints, that leaves you 15 seconds to get through his shields and wipe out his power plant and drives
If he's smart and is ready for you.....no you won't kill him "100%" of the time
 
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Usually i play solo but a few hours ago decided to try open play to see other cmdr's flying around and maybe chat ect...

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So am i missing something? Is there any reason i would go back to open play with a transport ship?

No. No. No. No. :)
 

Majinvash

Banned
Its easy, VERY easy.

Avoid being in systems that have players.
Avoid getting caught.

Don't be a victim.

Yes if you get caught be a clipper, you are dead in anything but an FDL or above.
Even a vulture will have issues.

When it comes to being in a trading ship, that is what its good at. Trading
The reason you are finding players, is that you are on a well known trade route and probably a more profitable one than of hundreds of others safe ones.

The risk should balance with the profit ( it should balance more but thats another discussion )

So yeah, trade in open. You may meet a Code pirate, in which case RP will happen.

If you are in system and you see a hollow shape. target it and look at it. ( cant interdict you if you are facing it )
Assess your danger and react.

Majinvash
 
Making fun of a post by "snipping" out most of its content and copying sentences out of context makes you look dumb.

Yes Yes Yes :)

Name looks familiar. Did you buy a new asp and get interdicted & scanned by red pirate asp tonight near lave ?
 
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Clipper cmdrs are the worst they always shoot to kill with no communication. They finally got a powerfull, fast ship and they choose to be a***s with it.

What a ridiculous statement. I always instruct my prey to halt for a cargo scan and have never asked for more than 50% of their cargo (don't want to scare them off to solo mode). I even thank them for their cooperation. Ships with no cargo or obey the above are always allowed to leave.
But sure enough most cmdrs in whatever ship they're in (never interdicted smaller than an Asp) decide to run and/or hurl swear words at me. So of course that earns destruction.

Some players on here enjoy the RP, some don't understand the game (looking at you OP). But labelling all the pilots of a particular ship is ridiculous.

Maybe next time try engaging with your pirate, he might just make the game more interesting for you... or head to solo and horde those pretend credits.
 
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What a ridiculous statement. I always instruct my prey to halt for a cargo scan and have never asked for more than 50% of their cargo (don't want to scare them off to solo mode). I even thank them for their cooperation. Ships with no cargo or obey the above are always allowed to leave.
But sure enough most cmdrs in whatever ship they're in (never interdicted smaller than an Asp) decide to run and/or hurl swear words at me. So of course that earns destruction.

Some players on here enjoy the RP, some don't understand the game (looking at you OP). But labelling all the pilots of a particular ship is ridiculous. Maybe next time try engaging with your pirate, he might just make the game mote interesting for you... or head to solo and horde those pretend credits.

I stand corrected - was a bit of a rage post after stopping for a clipper, saying hi then getting blown up with no response :p
 
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A lot of these comments would make sense if... Well.... Power play was actually working.... Derp. On a serious note, the only reason to play in open IS to KILL other CMDRs. That's it. That's literally the only purpose. For all intent purposes, this is a single player game. This is like a giant sandbox game... Without the toys to do anything with. Just sand to rub through your fingers lol
edit: don't get me wrong though... Their is a crap ton of sand to rub your fingers through!
edit: doh! I could have swore this was the xbone forums. Ignore the comment about power play not working lol
 
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Wait till you get to an Anaconda...

Been flying around in open since January and have been interdicted once. Charged friendshipdrive and moved on since I had better things to do :)
So use a Type [insert small int here] to grind your way to an Anaconda, and enjoy the silence in open :p
 
Wait till you get to an Anaconda...

Been flying around in open since January and have been interdicted once. Charged friendshipdrive and moved on since I had better things to do :)
So use a Type [insert small int here] to grind your way to an Anaconda, and enjoy the silence in open :p

Maybe somebody should start an elite "big game hunters" club :)
 
I spend most of my time in open, including trading in my t9. I enjoy running into the occasional CMDR most are just other traders or someone who continues on their way. I got killed by 1 pirate back in my t7 doing a community goal, I could of dropped cargo but that would be rewarding bad behavior. I have also lost 2 t9s to ai, and I have 6a shields, the ai elite pythons can be hard to get away from. So I would say the added safety of solo is overstated by many. Now if you are a meta gamer and are trying to race to the "end game" whatever that is in Elite then no reason to leave solo, I view the trip more fun than the destination so take it as you want.
 
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