im just bored at school, so maybe i can download it, convert it into mp3, snip out the morse parts and upload it again
(just in case ratking doesnt show up sooner, so that you can atleast work with it)
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im just bored at school, so maybe i can download it, convert it into mp3, snip out the morse parts and upload it again
(just in case ratking doesnt show up sooner, so that you can atleast work with it)
This explosion looks very strange. The thing is that there seems to be for a short moment some strong distortion. Watch the background lights of galaxy in picture 2. I also see small little, blue dots coming out in the front, marked in picture 3:
Of course since everything can be reduced to binary - im sure C3PO just translated everything into Morse
But I wouldn't know - im a cretin
Ship explosions also have strong distortion effects.
Thanks to mrtree for this nice pictures. Very helpful. Should be the proof that upper two of the narrow side-markings are a 7 or at least 5 and 2.
Your numbers would change to: 146,890,853
Or to if you read them down->top: 41, 976, 747 or 419, 76, 747
We're going off course!
I'm going to make myself unpopular, and a potential future laughing stock, here and nail my colours to the mast: I don't think the answer to the UA will be solved with Mayan numerology, Hafnium, Painite, SAP8s, Trinkets or any other weird and wonderful stuff. It's just far too woolly. 'Oo it's a nav computer or an engine, so this other thing must be the fuel', etc etc (not taking the mickey, just paraphrasing).
A bunch of canisters rattling around in a cargo hold, or floating in free space, do not a ship, or key, make! Do we somehow think that these items are going to transform in front of our very eyes like Optimus Prime?
If the UA is Thargoid, then it acting as a permit to a Thargoid system is believable.
It and SAP8s, and all the rest, being in the hold triggering something (when these mysterious substances are in shielded canisters except the UA itself?) doesn't make sense - except if it brings about a pirate interdiction.
I don't think it's going to 'do' anything monumental at all - certainly not produce a Thargoid interdiction (the assets would probably have been found in the game files by those that do this kind of thing by now), but I do think the answer is out there at the moment to discover its origins and to find a place of interest.
Take it back to the beginning, people: we were told to listen, not study its legs or pair it with other exotic cargo (some of which didn't exist when the UA was introduced, remember).
We got Morse.
We need to find any discrepancies in this Morse, any additions, anything that doesn't match up we've what we've learnt. It's the only repetitive behaviour that, once it was studied a reasonable amount, (to be fair, too, less than many other attributes of this thing) actually provided any information.
A change in this behaviour would provide more information. Why it's doing it is almost less important: there are an infinite number of ways to make '5' - and I think all these theories are effectively proposing '2+2' as one of them.
Everything else we've been looking at or listening to so far has yielded nothing except more wooliness. I love the Mayan number theory - but to be honest, that's not solvable 'in-game' is it, unless the game is being played by academics in the field of Mayan study?
More importantly, we've got at least 6 different ways of reading the numbers! So how are you supposed to know when you've got the right number!?
Same is true for all the cargo combinations: Tried it with some copper, gold, frankincense and myrrh? *that* might do something, too! How many combinations must we go through, considering the total number of different types of cargo there is? We can't brute-force this - it needs to be reason.
This isn't to belittle or insult anyone that's come up with or taken part in these theories. I have, too, lots of times.
But I'm looking at it right now and thinking we're back to taking the audio, speeding it up and trying to find 'redrum' in a spectrograph of the recording (not actually done, just illustrative purposes!).
I'm nearly done...
I think the UA is singing the song by the Urban Cookie Collective, but with the last word changed: 'I've got the key, I've got the secret - I've got the key to another race'.
The Morse was the key (and we were told to listen) - so what is the secret that it betrays?
(Ducks and runs)
I'm going to make myself unpopular, and a potential future laughing stock, here and nail my colours to the mast: I don't think the answer to the UA will be solved with Mayan numerology, Hafnium, Painite, SAP8s, Trinkets or any other weird and wonderful stuff. It's just far too woolly. 'Oo it's a nav computer or an engine, so this other thing must be the fuel', etc etc (not taking the mickey, just paraphrasing).
A bunch of canisters rattling around in a cargo hold, or floating in free space, do not a ship, or key, make! Do we somehow think that these items are going to transform in front of our very eyes like Optimus Prime?
If the UA is Thargoid, then it acting as a permit to a Thargoid system is believable.
It and SAP8s, and all the rest, being in the hold triggering something (when these mysterious substances are in shielded canisters except the UA itself?) doesn't make sense - except if it brings about a pirate interdiction.
I don't think it's going to 'do' anything monumental at all - certainly not produce a Thargoid interdiction (the assets would probably have been found in the game files by those that do this kind of thing by now), but I do think the answer is out there at the moment to discover its origins and to find a place of interest.
Take it back to the beginning, people: we were told to listen, not study its legs or pair it with other exotic cargo (some of which didn't exist when the UA was introduced, remember).
We got Morse.
We need to find any discrepancies in this Morse, any additions, anything that doesn't match up we've what we've learnt. It's the only repetitive behaviour that, once it was studied a reasonable amount, (to be fair, too, less than many other attributes of this thing) actually provided any information.
A change in this behaviour would provide more information. Why it's doing it is almost less important: there are an infinite number of ways to make '5' - and I think all these theories are effectively proposing '2+2' as one of them.
Everything else we've been looking at or listening to so far has yielded nothing except more wooliness. I love the Mayan number theory - but to be honest, that's not solvable 'in-game' is it, unless the game is being played by academics in the field of Mayan study?
More importantly, we've got at least 6 different ways of reading the numbers! So how are you supposed to know when you've got the right number!?
Same is true for all the cargo combinations: Tried it with some copper, gold, frankincense and myrrh? *that* might do something, too! How many combinations must we go through, considering the total number of different types of cargo there is? We can't brute-force this - it needs to be reason.
This isn't to belittle or insult anyone that's come up with or taken part in these theories. I have, too, lots of times.
But I'm looking at it right now and thinking we're back to taking the audio, speeding it up and trying to find 'redrum' in a spectrograph of the recording (not actually done, just illustrative purposes!).
I'm nearly done...
I think the UA is singing the song by the Urban Cookie Collective, but with the last word changed: 'I've got the key, I've got the secret - I've got the key to another race'.
The Morse was the key (and we were told to listen) - so what is the secret that it betrays?
(Ducks and runs)
Good Spot, seeing those lines.
Of course since everything can be reduced to binary - im sure C3PO just translated everything into Morse
But I wouldn't know - im a cretin
We thought there could be binary because the Purrs, if played faster, have only two tone heights. One upper tone, one lower tone. 1 and 0 or 0 and 1.
The thing is the purrs seem to be completely random:
1. 2 UAs at the same position at the same time emit completly different purrs.
2. We never were able to find a repeating pattern, larger than one short 7-bit sequence.
3. We tried Frank Drakes style of 0 and 1 patterns to draw pictures. They make no sense. For more look at: http://archive.seti.org/seti/projects/imc/history/messages.php
4. The only change in purrs was found in one video by red wizzard and one video by Ratking. The purrs changed from 6-7 bit per sequence to 2-3 bits. I'm not sure where this came from, because one was with SAP8 and one without. The only similarity was: there were many players around.
OK, HERE IS THE SOLUTION:
Let us bring both the UA we have to earth, and jettison them over England. Let them decay there as a sign of protest against FD
We achieve:
1) if the UA is a Virus dispenser, the plague will spread over Cambridge and we get a hint from FD eventually
2) we get rid of Daygobah's "pressing" theory
3) we go back to grind
Our government/military have already done that!! "Much of Britain was exposed to bacteria sprayed in secret trials"
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2002/apr/21/uk.medicalscience
I'm going to be looking for SSS as much as time allows today.
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I am hunting in 109 Virginis most of today
Here are the soundfiles from Ratkings Twitch stream
https://soundcloud.com/azerusrtificial/sets/ratking-plague-ua-test
Well, the problem is, that maybe the whole "search for a code" is a too complicated way to look at it.
What if "listen to it" simply meant, that we need to hear the morse to know what it is? What if we were never supposed to find a "code" in it and we were instead supposed to find out that it is one of those communication tools mentioned in the lore?
Just because it is not in the assets doestn mean that there is nothing. It could be a system that is allready there, that we just cant reach with a regular jump, a system outside our view.
I agree that it is unlikely that it transforms into a ship, but a trigger based on "cargo content" would be nothing unusual, and that would not be hidden in the assets.
If it is such a trigger, it might also just trigger a mission, a serverside event or something like that, something that is not there "clientside".
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That is awesome - thank you!
snipped them from as soon as he dropped them until he collected them again.
Seems like both are in
2O Ophuichi Sytem - Chargaff Port
the first one just the UA, the second one with a Sap8 nearby (would need confirmation, the video itself plays horrible here)
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I must say I agree with LordZoltan CMDRs. We are going off course.
We have to stick to the "Listen to it" hint, as I said too many times. The only theory that is reasonable and can be resolved in game is the "Exploration" one.
But it brings the difficulty to keep the UA and the ship alive.
Said that, can someone please confirm the fourth looping sound I'm hearing all the time in the background of the UA noises? It's another kind of "morse like" sound, like a radio transmission, with a high constant tone, like the noise you hear in radio while tuning, but with a structure. As I said here:
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=162998&page=133&p=2543279&viewfull=1#post2543279
In this recording, in particular, that sound is VERY prominent.Starting from the middle of the recording, until the end of it. That's because it can be heard just when the camera is near the UA.
dih, dididih, dididididih, didih, dididih, something like that, and then looping again and again
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I think sometimes you're ok but would definitely advise taking hatch breakers. Otherwise you risk being up the proverbial creek without a paddle.
It's really easy to practice the scenario on the hafnium convoys, if you can get the single hafnium from the convoy consistently I think you'll be able to get a UA if/when it appears.
This happens reasonably often...
- You get your target, take down the shields and shoot the cargo hatch to say ~50%. 4-5 cargo drops, but your hafnium (or whatever) is still inside the ship.
- You then take it down further to say 10%, more cargo drops, ah but the hafnium is inside the ship still =(
- You take the hatch down to 0% but no more cargo drops, hafnium is essentially "stuck" in the ship
- But if you have hatch breakers, they can release cargo at 0%, if you have some as a backup you're not scuppered
On choice of weapon I'm using one beam and 2 burst. The beam for the shield and twin bursts to take out the hatch really quickly.
Also getting line of sight on the hatch can be difficult but I guess that's another topic. =p
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oh btw, again to the assets...
wasnt there a "relicspace" file somewhere? i read that i think on reddit a while ago
wasnt there a "relicspace" file somewhere? i read that i think on reddit a while ago
Please don't forget the PURRs! It is the only irregularity we've found until now, because even if we have decoded the morse, we've found no irregularity in it. It always says the name of the next solar object.
We've dozens of recordings. And in all this recordings only TWO are different(that i know about). And the only change is that the amount of purrs changed from 6-7 to 2-3. That is HUGE (atleast as huge as i've written this word!) in my opinion and we should not lose the track on this lead.
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